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Judy Madnick November 8th, 2017 06:02 PM

[Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
It's me again. Steve Graham asked me to add a "+1" in front of his phone number. Dodi didn't include the "1" in her US numbers. As a result, there's an inconsistency between US numbers and those of other countries. Do you all want me to add the "1" -- and should a "+" be added, as Steve has done?

Thanks for your help.

Judy

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Efrem G Mallach November 8th, 2017 08:42 PM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
Judy,

I think we should be consistent. If non-U.S. phone numbers have their country code, we should include the 1 country code for anything in the North America Numbering Plan (including the U.S., Canada, some Caribbean islands, Bermuda, a couple of U.S.-related places in the Pacific Ocean, and perhaps more). Otherwise, we shouldn't.

If we add a leading 1, we should include the leading + to indicate that it is a country code. This is distinct from the 1 access code with which many, but far from all, U.S. phone systems precede a ten-digit NANP number. We should also include the country code, preceded by +, with non-U.S. numbers so that all numbers are in the world-wide format. Thus, Tim Bourne's U.K. number, now shown as 01442-267220, would become +44 (0) 1442-267220. The 0 is in parentheses to indicate that it is used if the country code is not used (i.e., from within the U.K.). At this time Hugo Kornelis's number is in this worldwide format, but all the others are in their respective countries' domestic formats.

Alternatively, we can leave all the numbers in the correct form for calls made from within their own country. That means leaving Tim's number alone, changing Hugo's to the domestic format used for calls from within the Netherlands, and not adding a leading 1 to NANP numbers. The fact that many phone systems require it before a ten-digit number is irrelevant. People who use such phone systems, a group to which I do not belong, know they need to dial 1 first. That does not make it part of a domestic number. That the most common U.S. access code and its NANP country code happen to be the same is merely a coincidence.

As to which one of these routes you choose: I have no particular preference for either. I just feel that we should treat all countries the same in this regard: either use their domestic formats and let callers from elsewhere figure out what country code to add (and occasionally what leading digit to remove), or use world-wide formats with + and the country code, and let domestic callers figure out that they don't need the country code and may need something else. I don't think we should have a hybrid, though. And I don't think U.S. numbers have special status.

That's my 2¢, or perhaps my 1+1¢.

Efrem



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> On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Judy Madnick <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> It's me again. Steve Graham asked me to add a "+1" in front of his phone number. Dodi didn't include the "1" in her US numbers. As a result, there's an inconsistency between US numbers and those of other countries. Do you all want me to add the "1" -- and should a "+" be added, as Steve has done?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Judy
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Judy Madnick November 8th, 2017 09:10 PM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
I, too, like consistency, so I hope others will express their opinion as to
the preferred style... unless you want me to make an executive decision.
:-) My preference is "use world-wide formats with + and the country code,
and let domestic callers figure out that they don't need the country code
and may need something else" but would appreciate help with the non-US
numbers.

Thanks!

Judy


On Nov 8, 2017 9:42 PM, "Efrem G Mallach" <emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Judy,

I think we should be consistent. If non-U.S. phone numbers have their
country code, we should include the 1 country code for anything in the
North America Numbering Plan (including the U.S., Canada, some Caribbean
islands, Bermuda, a couple of U.S.-related places in the Pacific Ocean, and
perhaps more). Otherwise, we shouldn't.

If we add a leading 1, we should include the leading + to indicate that it
is a country code. This is distinct from the 1 access code with which many,
but far from all, U.S. phone systems precede a ten-digit NANP number. We
should also include the country code, preceded by +, with non-U.S. numbers
so that all numbers are in the world-wide format. Thus, Tim Bourne's U.K.
number, now shown as 01442-267220, would become +44 (0) 1442-267220
<+44%201442%20267220>. The 0 is in parentheses to indicate that it is used
if the country code is not used (i.e., from within the U.K.). At this time
Hugo Kornelis's number is in this worldwide format, but all the others are
in their respective countries' domestic formats.

Alternatively, we can leave all the numbers in the correct form for calls
made from within their own country. That means leaving Tim's number alone,
changing Hugo's to the domestic format used for calls from within the
Netherlands, and not adding a leading 1 to NANP numbers. The fact that many
phone systems require it before a ten-digit number is irrelevant. People
who use such phone systems, a group to which I do not belong, know they
need to dial 1 first. That does not make it part of a domestic number. That
the most common U.S. access code and its NANP country code happen to be the
same is merely a coincidence.

As to which one of these routes you choose: I have no particular preference
for either. I just feel that we should treat all countries the same in this
regard: either use their domestic formats and let callers from elsewhere
figure out what country code to add (and occasionally what leading digit to
remove), or use world-wide formats with + and the country code, and let
domestic callers figure out that they don't need the country code and may
need something else. I don't think we should have a hybrid, though. And I
don't think U.S. numbers have special status.

That's my 2¢, or perhaps my 1+1¢.

Efrem



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emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net
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On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Judy Madnick <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

It's me again. Steve Graham asked me to add a "+1" in front of his phone
number. Dodi didn't include the "1" in her US numbers. As a result, there's
an inconsistency between US numbers and those of other countries. *Do you
all want me to add the "1" -- and should a "+" be added, as Steve has done?*

Thanks for your help.

Judy

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Tim B November 9th, 2017 04:08 AM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
> Thus, Tim Bourne's U.K. number, now shown asÂ*01442-267220, would become +44 (0) 1442-267220. The 0
> is in parentheses to indicate that it is used if the country code is not used (i.e., from within the
> U.K.).


As it happens, just a couple of days ago I sent Judy a suggestion that mine should be changed to be
in the international standard format. Using a mobile phone and travelling abroad, I've got used to
having all numbers in that format, and the phone companies seem to be able to handle that wherever I am.

Best wishes,
Tim Bourne.

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Johnb - co.uk November 9th, 2017 05:43 AM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
Judy,

whatever - but my preference is the +44(0)321987654 shape

by the way, on your original send outÂ* Shani's email address was missing
its terminating ">" - probably only a programmer would notice that!

*JohnnyB*
On 09/11/2017 03:10, Judy Madnick wrote:
> I, too, like consistency, so I hope others will express their opinion
> as to the preferred style... unless you want me to make an executive
> decision. :-) My preference is "use world-wide formats with + and the
> country code, and let domestic callers figure out that they don't need
> the country code and may need something else" but would appreciate
> help with the non-US numbers.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Judy
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2017 9:42 PM, "Efrem G Mallach" <emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net
> <mailto:emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> wrote:
>
> Judy,
>
> I think we should be consistent. If non-U.S. phone numbers have
> their country code, we should include the 1 country code for
> anything in the North America Numbering Plan (including the U.S.,
> Canada, some Caribbean islands, Bermuda, a couple of U.S.-related
> places in the Pacific Ocean, and perhaps more). Otherwise, we
> shouldn't.
>
> If we add a leading 1, we should include the leading + to indicate
> that it is a country code. This is distinct from the 1 access code
> with which many, but far from all, U.S. phone systems precede a
> ten-digit NANP number. We should also include the country code,
> preceded by +, with non-U.S. numbers so that all numbers are in
> the world-wide format. Thus, Tim Bourne's U.K. number, now shown
> asÂ*01442-267220, would become +44 (0) 1442-267220
> <tel:+44%201442%20267220>. The 0 is in parentheses to indicate
> that it is used if the country code is not used (i.e., from within
> the U.K.). At this time Hugo Kornelis's number is in this
> worldwide format, but all the others are in their respective
> countries' domestic formats.
>
> Alternatively, we can leave all the numbers in the correct form
> for calls made from within their own country. That means leaving
> Tim's number alone, changing Hugo's to the domestic format used
> for calls from within the Netherlands, and not adding a leading 1
> to NANP numbers. The fact that many phone systems require it
> before a ten-digit number is irrelevant. People who use such phone
> systems, a group to which I do not belong, know they need to dial
> 1 first. That does not make it part of a domestic number. That the
> most common U.S. access code and its NANP country code happen to
> be the same is merely a coincidence.
>
> As to which one of these routes you choose: I have no particular
> preference for either. I just feel that we should treat all
> countries the same in this regard: either use their domestic
> formats and let callers from elsewhere figure out what country
> code to add (and occasionally what leading digit to remove), or
> use world-wide formats with + and the country code, and let
> domestic callers figure out that they don't need the country code
> and may need something else. I don't think we should have a
> hybrid, though. And I don't think U.S. numbers have special status.
>
> That's my 2¢, or perhaps my 1+1¢.
>
> Efrem
>
>
>
> Efrem G. Mallach
> emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net <mailto:emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Judy Madnick <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com
>> <mailto:jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> wrote:
>>
>> It's me again. Steve Graham asked me to add a "+1" in front of
>> his phone number. Dodi didn't include the "1" in her US numbers.
>> As a result, there's an inconsistency between US numbers and
>> those of other countries.*Do you all want me to add the "1" --
>> andÂ*should a "+" be added, as Steve has done?*
>> **
>> Thanks for your help.
>> Judy
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Judy Madnick November 9th, 2017 08:38 AM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
Thanks for catching the missing ">." I may have accidentally deleted that. Oops? Nope, it was missing on Dodi's list -- and I never noticed it.

Thanks again, "eagle eye"!

Judy

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From: "Johnb - co.uk" <johnb (AT) john-barrs (DOT) co.uk>
To: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com;
Dated: 11/9/2017 6:43:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixonary] RE: Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017


Judy,

whatever - but my preference is the +44(0)321987654 shape
by the way, on your original send out Shani's email address was missing its terminating ">" - probably only a programmer would notice that!

JohnnyB
On 09/11/2017 03:10, Judy Madnick wrote:

I, too, like consistency, so I hope others will express their opinion as to the preferred style... unless you want me to make an executive decision. :-) My preference is "use world-wide formats with + and the country code, and let domestic callers figure out that they don't need the country code and may need something else" but would appreciate help with the non-US numbers..


Thanks!


Judy




On Nov 8, 2017 9:42 PM, "Efrem G Mallach" <emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Judy,


I think we should be consistent. If non-U.S. phone numbers have their country code, we should include the 1 country code for anything in the North America Numbering Plan (including the U.S., Canada, some Caribbean islands, Bermuda, a couple of U.S.-related places in the Pacific Ocean, and perhaps more). Otherwise, we shouldn't.


If we add a leading 1, we should include the leading + to indicate that it is a country code. This is distinct from the 1 access code with which many, but far from all, U.S. phone systems precede a ten-digit NANP number. We should also include the country code, preceded by +, with non-U.S. numbers so that all numbers are in the world-wide format. Thus, Tim Bourne's U.K. number, now shown as 01442-267220, would become +44 (0) 1442-267220. The 0 is in parentheses to indicate that it is used if the country code is not used (i.e., from within the U.K.). At this time Hugo Kornelis's number is in this worldwide format, but all the others are in their respective countries' domestic formats.


Alternatively, we can leave all the numbers in the correct form for calls made from within their own country. That means leaving Tim's number alone, changing Hugo's to the domestic format used for calls from within the Netherlands, and not adding a leading 1 to NANP numbers. The fact that many phone systems require it before a ten-digit number is irrelevant. People who use such phone systems, a group to which I do not belong, know they need to dial 1 first. That does not make it part of a domestic number. That the most common U.S. access code and its NANP country code happen to be the same is merely a coincidence.


As to which one of these routes you choose: I have no particular preference for either. I just feel that we should treat all countries the same in this regard: either use their domestic formats and let callers from elsewhere figure out what country code to add (and occasionally what leading digit to remove), or use world-wide formats with + and the country code, and let domestic callers figure out that they don't need the country code and may need something else. I don't think we should have a hybrid, though. And I don't think U.S. numbers have special status.


That's my 2¢, or perhaps my 1+1¢.


Efrem






Efrem G. Mallach
emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net
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On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Judy Madnick <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:


It's me again. Steve Graham asked me to add a "+1" in front of his phone number. Dodi didn't include the "1" in her US numbers. As a result, there's an inconsistency between US numbers and those of other countries. Do you all want me to add the "1" -- and should a "+" be added, as Steve has done?

Thanks for your help.

Judy


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Judy Madnick November 9th, 2017 03:12 PM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
Okay -- I would appreciate it if someone would let me know how each of the out-of-the US phone numbers should be shown so that they are consistent and easily used.

Thanks...

Judy

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Judy Madnick November 9th, 2017 03:19 PM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
I just checked Dodi's original message. (I had already made updates on the version I had saved.) Shani was, indeed, already playing (time flies!)...and the ">" was missing.

Judy

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On 09/11/2017 14:38, Judy Madnick wrote:

Thanks for catching the missing ">." I may have accidentally deleted that. Oops? Nope, it was missing on Dodi's list -- and I never noticed it.

Thanks again, "eagle eye"!

Judy

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."



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From: "Johnb - co.uk"
To: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com;
Dated: 11/9/2017 6:43:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixonary] RE: Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017


Judy,

whatever - but my preference is the +44(0)321987654 shape
by the way, on your original send out Shani's email address was missing its terminating ">" - probably only a programmer would notice that!

JohnnyB
On 09/11/2017 03:10, Judy Madnick wrote:

I, too, like consistency, so I hope others will express their opinion as to the preferred style... unless you want me to make an executive decision. :-) My preference is "use world-wide formats with + and the country code, and let domestic callers figure out that they don't need the country code and may need something else" but would appreciate help with the non-US numbers..


Thanks!


Judy




On Nov 8, 2017 9:42 PM, "Efrem G Mallach" <emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Judy,


I think we should be consistent. If non-U.S. phone numbers have their country code, we should include the 1 country code for anything in the North America Numbering Plan (including the U.S., Canada, some Caribbean islands, Bermuda, a couple of U.S.-related places in the Pacific Ocean, and perhaps more). Otherwise, we shouldn't.


If we add a leading 1, we should include the leading + to indicate that it is a country code. This is distinct from the 1 access code with which many, but far from all, U.S. phone systems precede a ten-digit NANP number. We should also include the country code, preceded by +, with non-U.S. numbers so that all numbers are in the world-wide format. Thus, Tim Bourne's U.K. number, now shown as 01442-267220, would become +44 (0) 1442-267220. The 0 is in parentheses to indicate that it is used if the country code is not used (i.e., from within the U.K.). At this time Hugo Kornelis's number is in this worldwide format, but all the others are in their respective countries' domestic formats.


Alternatively, we can leave all the numbers in the correct form for calls made from within their own country. That means leaving Tim's number alone, changing Hugo's to the domestic format used for calls from within the Netherlands, and not adding a leading 1 to NANP numbers. The fact that many phone systems require it before a ten-digit number is irrelevant. People who use such phone systems, a group to which I do not belong, know they need to dial 1 first. That does not make it part of a domestic number. That the most common U.S. access code and its NANP country code happen to be the same is merely a coincidence.


As to which one of these routes you choose: I have no particular preference for either. I just feel that we should treat all countries the same in this regard: either use their domestic formats and let callers from elsewhere figure out what country code to add (and occasionally what leading digit to remove), or use world-wide formats with + and the country code, and let domestic callers figure out that they don't need the country code and may need something else. I don't think we should have a hybrid, though. And I don't think U.S. numbers have special status.


That's my 2¢, or perhaps my 1+1¢.


Efrem






Efrem G. Mallach
emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net
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On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Judy Madnick <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:


It's me again. Steve Graham asked me to add a "+1" in front of his phone number. Dodi didn't include the "1" in her US numbers. As a result, there's an inconsistency between US numbers and those of other countries. Do you all want me to add the "1" -- and should a "+" be added, as Steve has done?

Thanks for your help.

Judy


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Efrem G Mallach November 9th, 2017 03:35 PM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
Judy,

1. Start each number with + followed by a country code. The codes you need are:

North America (U.S. and Canada, plus other places not relevant in this context): 1
UK: 44
Netherlands: 31 (already there for our only Dutchman)
Australia: 61
New Zealand: 64

2. If a player gave his/her phone number with a leading zero, put it in parentheses. If it doesn't already have one, I don't think there's any need to add it, though you can add it to any UK numbers that don't already have it for consistency if you want. I'm not sure about the other countries. People from them can chime in on whether or not they want one, if their country's internal phone system requires it.


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> On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Judy Madnick <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> Okay -- I would appreciate it if someone would let me know how each of the out-of-the US phone numbers should be shown so that they are consistent and easily used.
>
> Thanks...
>
> Judy
>
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Ryan McGill November 9th, 2017 03:40 PM

[Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
I'm just chiming in because you wanted more confirmations that the
international schema would be appreciated. And yes, it would.

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:02:36 PM UTC-8, Judy Madnick wrote:
>
> It's me again. Steve Graham asked me to add a "+1" in front of his phone
> number. Dodi didn't include the "1" in her US numbers. As a result, there's
> an inconsistency between US numbers and those of other countries. *Do you
> all want me to add the "1" -- and should a "+" be added, as Steve has done?*
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Judy
>


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Hugo Kornelis November 9th, 2017 04:22 PM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
I may be the only Dutchman, but I am not the only one with a Dutch phone
number. Paul Keating lives here, too.

For my numbers, the format with the optional zero included would be:
(home) +31 (0)36 5234272
(cell) +31 (0)6 24905042

Cheers,
Hugo


Op 9-11-2017 om 22:35 schreef Efrem G Mallach:
> Judy,
>
> 1. Start each number with + followed by a country code. The codes you
> need are:
>
> North America (U.S. and Canada, plus other places not relevant in this
> context): 1
> UK: 44
> Netherlands: 31 (already there for our only Dutchman)
> Australia: 61
> New Zealand: 64
>
> 2. If a player gave his/her phone number with a leading zero, put it
> in parentheses. If it doesn't already have one, I don't think there's
> any need to add it, though you can add it to any UK numbers that don't
> already have it for consistency if you want. I'm not sure about the
> other countries. People from them can chime in on whether or not they
> want one, if their country's internal phone system requires it.
>
>
> Efrem G. Mallach
> emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net <mailto:emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>> On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Judy Madnick <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com
>> <mailto:jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> wrote:
>>
>> Okay -- I would appreciate it if someone would let me know how
>> */each/* of the out-of-the US phone numbers should be shown so that
>> they are consistent and easily used.
>> Thanks...
>> Judy
>>
>> /"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."/

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Efrem G Mallach November 9th, 2017 04:24 PM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
Apologies to Paul - I missed that somehow. Of course he does. Lucky guy.

Efrem



Efrem G. Mallach
emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

> On Nov 9, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Hugo Kornelis <hugo (AT) perFact (DOT) info> wrote:
>
> I may be the only Dutchman, but I am not the only one with a Dutch phone number. Paul Keating lives here, too.
>
> For my numbers, the format with the optional zero included would be:
> (home) +31 (0)36 5234272
> (cell) +31 (0)6 24905042
>
> Cheers,
> Hugo
>
>
> Op 9-11-2017 om 22:35 schreef Efrem G Mallach:
>> Judy,
>>
>> 1. Start each number with + followed by a country code. The codes you need are:
>>
>> North America (U.S. and Canada, plus other places not relevant in this context): 1
>> UK: 44
>> Netherlands: 31 (already there for our only Dutchman)
>> Australia: 61
>> New Zealand: 64
>>
>> 2. If a player gave his/her phone number with a leading zero, put it in parentheses. If it doesn't already have one, I don't think there's any need to add it, though you can add it to any UK numbers that don't already have it for consistency if you want. I'm not sure about the other countries. People from them can chime in on whether or not they want one, if their country's internal phone system requires it.
>>
>>
>> Efrem G. Mallach
>> emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net <mailto:emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net>
>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Judy Madnick <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com <mailto:jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay -- I would appreciate it if someone would let me know how each of the out-of-the US phone numbers should be shown so that they are consistent and easily used.
>>>
>>> Thanks...
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

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Judy Madnick November 9th, 2017 04:40 PM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
No problem. I caught that. <G>

Judy

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."



Original message
From: "Efrem G Mallach" <emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net>
To: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com;
Dated: 11/9/2017 5:24:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixonary] RE: Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017

Apologies to Paul - I missed that somehow. Of course he does. Lucky guy.


Efrem






Efrem G. Mallach
emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


On Nov 9, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Hugo Kornelis <hugo (AT) perFact (DOT) info> wrote:


I may be the only Dutchman, but I am not the only one with a Dutch phone number. Paul Keating lives here, too.

For my numbers, the format with the optional zero included would be:
(home) +31 (0)36 5234272
(cell) +31 (0)6 24905042

Cheers,
Hugo



Op 9-11-2017 om 22:35 schreef Efrem G Mallach:

Judy,


1. Start each number with + followed by a country code. The codes you need are:


North America (U.S. and Canada, plus other places not relevant in this context): 1
UK: 44
Netherlands: 31 (already there for our only Dutchman)
Australia: 61
New Zealand: 64


2. If a player gave his/her phone number with a leading zero, put it in parentheses. If it doesn't already have one, I don't think there's any need to add it, though you can add it to any UK numbers that don't already have it for consistency if you want. I'm not sure about the other countries. People from them can chime in on whether or not they want one, if their country's internal phone system requires it.




Efrem G. Mallach
emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Judy Madnick <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:


Okay -- I would appreciate it if someone would let me know how each of the out-of-the US phone numbers should be shown so that they are consistent and easily used.

Thanks...

Judy

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."


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Judy Madnick November 9th, 2017 06:22 PM

Re: [Dixonary] Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017
 
Thanks, Hugo!

Judy

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."



Original message
From: "Hugo Kornelis" <hugo (AT) perFact (DOT) info>
To: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com;
Dated: 11/9/2017 5:22:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixonary] RE: Dixonary Players a/o 11/6/2017

I may be the only Dutchman, but I am not the only one with a Dutch phone number. Paul Keating lives here, too.

For my numbers, the format with the optional zero included would be:
(home) +31 (0)36 5234272
(cell) +31 (0)6 24905042

Cheers,
Hugo



Op 9-11-2017 om 22:35 schreef Efrem G Mallach:

Judy,


1. Start each number with + followed by a country code. The codes you need are:


North America (U.S. and Canada, plus other places not relevant in this context): 1
UK: 44
Netherlands: 31 (already there for our only Dutchman)
Australia: 61
New Zealand: 64


2. If a player gave his/her phone number with a leading zero, put it in parentheses. If it doesn't already have one, I don't think there's any need to add it, though you can add it to any UK numbers that don't already have it for consistency if you want. I'm not sure about the other countries. People from them can chime in on whether or not they want one, if their country's internal phone system requires it.




Efrem G. Mallach
emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Judy Madnick <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:


Okay -- I would appreciate it if someone would let me know how each of the out-of-the US phone numbers should be shown so that they are consistent and easily used.

Thanks...

Judy

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."


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