[Dixonary] Round 2273 STRUMPLE Results

[Tim Lodge]

Since everyone who submitted a def for STRUMBLE has voted, I'm closing
the round before the deadline.

The dictionary should be the next dealer, with 7 votes. However, in
the real world, 2 players earned top spot with 6 points: they were Tim
Bourne and Daniel Widdis. Tim Bourne's definition "a strong ale made
from countryside fruits." earned its author the deal, and Daniel
Widdis can heave a sigh of relief that "tropical woody herb with showy
yellow flowers and flat pods; much cultivated in the tropics." did not
earn one more vote.

Tony Abell takes runner-up position with 5 points.

The true definition was 10: "_Obs._ the fleshy stem of a horse's
tail." (OED Second edition, 1989; online version December 2011), which
7 perceptive players guessed.

-- Tim L


*** STRUMBLE ***

1. to gird. Votes from: Cunningham, Hart, Morgan and Schultz
Submitted by: Madnick, who scores natural 4.
2. a maker of moonshine. No votes
Submitted by: Stevens.
3. _obs. or dial._ stumble. Vote from: Bensburg
Submitted by: Keating, who scores natural 1.
4. a minstrel bagpipe player. Vote from: Widdis
Submitted by: Grieco, who scores natural 1.
5. to dishevel, esp. of a woman. Votes from: Bensburg, Carson
and Wetzstein
Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 3.
6. a desert served in Yorkshire. Votes from: Graham and
Wetzstein
Submitted by: Emery, who scores 2 + 2, total 4.
7. to punish by whipping with a stick. Votes from: Keating,
Morgan and Shefler
Submitted by: Abell, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.
8. an irregular fold, crease or wrinkle. Votes from: Abell and
Grieco
Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 2.
9. the crumbly topping on many pastries. Vote from: Crom
Submitted by: Wetzstein, who scores natural 1.
10. _Obs._ the fleshy stem of a horse's tail. Votes from: Abell,
Barrs, Emery, Hale—, Hart, Schultz
and Widdis Real definition from OED Second
edition, 1989; online
version December 2011
11. a strong ale made from countryside fruits. Votes from:
Barrs, Emery, Graham, Madnick, Shefler
and Weltz
Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 6.
12. to commit violence towards a prostitute [coll.] No votes
Submitted by: Bensburg.
13. a group of objects piled up in a slipshod manner. Votes
from: Bourne and Hale—
Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 2.
14. (colloq.) an unwell feeling, esp. in the head; a moody
depression. Votes from: Crom and Grieco
Submitted by: Morgan, who scores natural 2.
15. commonly called _king's evil_ is a diseased, usually swollen,
scrofula. No votes
Submitted by: Barrs, who scores 0 + 2, total 2.
16. stamp a diamond pattern into a metal surface to provide
a non-slip grip. Votes from: Stevens and Weltz
Submitted by: Graham, who scores natural 2.
17. to play a stringed instrument, esp. a guitar,
percussively by striking the open strings. No votes
Submitted by: Hart, who scores 0 + 2, total 2.
18. [Mus. Sl.] to flub an entrance; also, to have a memory
loss in the middle of a performance. No votes
Submitted by: Shefler.
19. tropical woody herb with showy yellow flowers and flat
pods; much cultivated in the tropics. Votes from: Bourne,
Carson, Keating and Madnick
Submitted by: Widdis, who scores 4 + 2, total 6.
20. to violate or dishonor. Also a pariah thus dishonored.
[ L.L. _strupum_ 'dishonor, violation' ] Votes from:
Cunningham and Stevens
Submitted by: Hale, who scores 2 + 2, total 4.

Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
Bourne 11 13 & 19 6 6
Widdis 19 4 & *10* 4 2 6
Abell 7 8 & *10* 3 2 5
Madnick 1 11 & 19 4 4
Hale 20 *10* & 13 2 2 4
Emery 6 *10* & 11 2 2 4
Cunningham 5 1 & 20 3 3
Morgan 14 1 & 7 2 2
Graham 16 6 & 11 2 2
Carson 8 5 & 19 2 2
Weltz 13 11 & 16 2 2
Schultz 1 & *10* 0 2 2
Barrs 15 *10* & 11 0 2 2
Hart 17 1 & *10* 0 2 2
Keating 3 7 & 19 1 1
Grieco 4 8 & 14 1 1
Wetzstein 9 5 & 6 1 1
Stevens 2 16 & 20 0 0
Shefler 18 7 & 11 0 0
Bensburg 12 3 & 5 0 0
Crom 9 & 14 0 0

[Tim Lodge]

The word was of course STRUMPLE, in case anyone was as confused as I
was. In my flying days, Strumble was a waypoint on the airway from
London towards the Atlantic.

-- Tim L

On Jan 16, 11:48*am, Tim Lodge <5sfwiy... (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com> wrote:
> Since everyone who submitted a def for STRUMBLE has voted, I'm closing
> the round before the deadline.
>
> The dictionary should be the next dealer, with 7 votes. *However, in
> the real world, 2 players earned top spot with 6 points: they were Tim
> Bourne and Daniel Widdis. Tim Bourne's definition "a strong ale made
> from countryside fruits." earned its author the deal, and Daniel
> Widdis can heave a sigh of relief that "tropical woody herb with showy
> yellow flowers and flat pods; much cultivated in the tropics." did not
> earn one more vote.
>
> Tony Abell takes runner-up position with 5 points.
>
> The true definition was 10: "_Obs._ the fleshy stem of a horse's
> tail." (OED Second edition, 1989; online version December 2011), which
> 7 perceptive players guessed.
>
> -- *Tim L
>
> **** STRUMBLE ***
>
> *1. to gird. * * Votes from: * Cunningham, Hart, Morgan and Schultz
> * * Submitted by: Madnick, who scores natural 4.
> *2. a maker of moonshine. * * No votes
> * * Submitted by: Stevens.
> *3. _obs. or dial._ stumble. * * Vote from: * *Bensburg
> * * Submitted by: Keating, who scores natural 1.
> *4. a minstrel bagpipe player. * * Vote from: * *Widdis
> * * Submitted by: Grieco, who scores natural 1.
> *5. to dishevel, esp. of a woman. * * Votes from: * Bensburg, Carson
> and Wetzstein
> * * Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 3.
> *6. a desert served in Yorkshire. * * Votes from: * Graham and
> Wetzstein
> * * Submitted by: Emery, who scores 2 + 2, total 4.
> *7. to punish by whipping with a stick. * * Votes from: * Keating,
> Morgan and Shefler
> * * Submitted by: Abell, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.
> *8. an irregular fold, crease or wrinkle. * * Votes from: * Abell and
> Grieco
> * * Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 2.
> *9. the crumbly topping on many pastries. * * Vote from: * *Crom
> * * Submitted by: Wetzstein, who scores natural 1.
> 10. _Obs._ the fleshy stem of a horse's tail. * * Votes from: * Abell,
> Barrs, Emery, Hale—, Hart, Schultz
> * * * * * * * * * and Widdis * * Real definition from OED Second
> edition, 1989; online
> * * version December 2011
> 11. a strong ale made from countryside fruits. * * Votes from:
> Barrs, Emery, Graham, Madnick, Shefler
> * * * * * * * * * and Weltz
> * * Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 6.
> 12. to commit violence towards a prostitute [coll.] * * No votes
> * * Submitted by: Bensburg.
> 13. a group of objects piled up in a slipshod manner. * * Votes
> from: * Bourne and Hale—
> * * Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 2.
> 14. (colloq.) an unwell feeling, esp. in the head; a moody
> * * depression. * * Votes from: * Crom and Grieco
> * * Submitted by: Morgan, who scores natural 2.
> 15. commonly called _king's evil_ is a diseased, usually swollen,
> scrofula. * * No votes
> * * Submitted by: Barrs, who scores 0 + 2, total 2.
> 16. stamp a diamond pattern into a metal surface to provide
> * * a non-slip grip. * * Votes from: * Stevens and Weltz
> * * Submitted by: Graham, who scores natural 2.
> 17. to play a stringed instrument, esp. a guitar,
> * * percussively by striking the open strings. * * No votes
> * * Submitted by: Hart, who scores 0 + 2, total 2.
> 18. [Mus. Sl.] to flub an entrance; also, to have a memory
> * * loss in the middle of a performance. * * No votes
> * * Submitted by: Shefler.
> 19. tropical woody herb with showy yellow flowers and flat
> * * pods; much cultivated in the tropics. * * Votes from: * Bourne,
> Carson, Keating and Madnick
> * * Submitted by: Widdis, who scores 4 + 2, total 6.
> 20. to violate or dishonor. Also a pariah thus dishonored.
> * * [ L.L. _strupum_ 'dishonor, violation' ] * * Votes from:
> Cunningham and Stevens
> * * Submitted by: Hale, who scores 2 + 2, total 4.
>
> Player * * * * Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
> * * ------ * * * * --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
> * * Bourne * * * * *11 * 13 & 19 * * 6 * * * * * * *6
> * * Widdis * * * * *19 *4 & *10* * * 4 * * 2 * * * *6
> * * Abell * * * * * *7 *8 & *10* * * 3 * * 2 * * * *5
> * * Madnick * * * * *1 * 11 & 19 * * 4 * * * * * * *4
> * * Hale * * * * * *20 *10* & 13 * * 2 * * 2 * * * *4
> * * Emery * * * * * *6 *10* & 11 * * 2 * * 2 * * * *4
> * * Cunningham * * * 5 * *1 & 20 * * 3 * * * * * * *3
> * * Morgan * * * * *14 * * 1 & 7 * * 2 * * * * * * *2
> * * Graham * * * * *16 * *6 & 11 * * 2 * * * * * * *2
> * * Carson * * * * * 8 * *5 & 19 * * 2 * * * * * * *2
> * * Weltz * * * * * 13 * 11 & 16 * * 2 * * * * * * *2
> * * Schultz * * * * * * 1 & *10* * * 0 * * 2 * * * *2
> * * Barrs * * * * * 15 *10* & 11 * * 0 * * 2 * * * *2
> * * Hart * * * * * *17 *1 & *10* * * 0 * * 2 * * * *2
> * * Keating * * * * *3 * *7 & 19 * * 1 * * * * * * *1
> * * Grieco * * * * * 4 * *8 & 14 * * 1 * * * * * * *1
> * * Wetzstein * * * *9 * * 5 & 6 * * 1 * * * * * * *1
> * * Stevens * * * * *2 * 16 & 20 * * 0 * * * * * * *0
> * * Shefler * * * * 18 * *7 & 11 * * 0 * * * * * * *0
> * * Bensburg * * * *12 * * 3 & 5 * * 0 * * * * * * *0
> * * Crom * * * * * * * * *9 & 14 * * 0 * * * * * * *0

[Judy Madnick]

And I'll take my four points and run! (The correct definition was my third choice when I voted. Figures, huh?)

Judy

[Jim Hart]

Tim,

I'm curious to know about your waypoint

>*In my flying days, Strumble was a waypoint on the airway from
> London towards the Atlantic.

Was Strumble a geographic point (e.g. name of village) or simply an
invented name for a map position? And if the latter was it spelt in
full like that or was strumble the conveneint way you said it.

In my own flying experience (more limited and probably more recent)
waypoints were always 5-letter groups and generally meaningless but
pronounceable.

Just wondering,
Jim

[Tim Lodge]

Jim

The Strumble VOR is near Fishguard in South Wales, at 51° 59' 41.00"
N 005° 02' 25.00" W. It takes its name from the nearby Strumble Head
- where there's also a lighthouse - although the VOR itself is about
1.8 kilometers inland. It's identification code is 'STU'. I've a
feeling that in my day it was an NDB (Non-Directional Beacon), but I
can't really remember. More at http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?nav=STRUMBLE&nav_id=STU&nav_type=4

-- Tim L

On Jan 17, 10:58*am, Jim Hart <jfsh... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> Tim,
>
> I'm curious to know about your waypoint
>
> >*In my flying days, Strumble was a waypoint on the airway from
> > London towards the Atlantic.
>
> Was Strumble a geographic point (e.g. name of village) or simply an
> invented name for a map position? And if the latter was it spelt in
> full like that or was strumble the conveneint way you said it.
>
> In my own flying experience (more limited and probably more recent)
> waypoints were always 5-letter groups and generally meaningless but
> pronounceable.
>
> Just wondering,
> Jim

[Steve Graham]

You might see
http://www.pprune.org/questions/45884-who-decides-names-waypoints.html about
waypoint names.

It's been 30 years since I did any flying, but back in those days, I think,
waypoint names were more arbitrary.

I remember one on the approach to Salem, Oregon, USA named SCIO (which might
not have been easy to pronounce for some folks).

Steve Graham

Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too
dark to read. Groucho Marx



-----Original Message-----
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Of Jim Hart
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:59 AM
To: Dixonary
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Round 2273 STRUMPLE Results

Tim,

I'm curious to know about your waypoint

>*In my flying days, Strumble was a waypoint on the airway from London
>towards the Atlantic.

Was Strumble a geographic point (e.g. name of village) or simply an invented
name for a map position? And if the latter was it spelt in full like that or
was strumble the conveneint way you said it.

In my own flying experience (more limited and probably more recent)
waypoints were always 5-letter groups and generally meaningless but
pronounceable.

Just wondering,
Jim

[Tim Lodge]

Steve

Thanks for that link. Everything seems to have changed since I last
flew professionally - which is not surprising really as it's coming up
to 35 years since I left my last RAF squadron!

I also found these two websites which you and Jim might find
interesting:

http://www.reportingpoints.info/

http://www.trevord.com/navaids/

-- Tim L



On Jan 17, 12:00*pm, "Steve Graham" <sdgra... (AT) duckswild (DOT) com> wrote:
> You might seehttp://www.pprune.org/questions/45884-who-decides-names-waypoints.htmlabout
> waypoint names.
>
> It's been 30 years since I did any flying, but back in those days, I think,
> waypoint names were more arbitrary.
>
> I remember one on the approach to Salem, Oregon, USA named SCIO (which might
> not have been easy to pronounce for some folks).
>
> Steve Graham
>
> Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too
> dark to read. Groucho Marx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com [mailto:dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com] On Behalf
>
> Of Jim Hart
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:59 AM
> To: Dixonary
> Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Round 2273 STRUMPLE Results
>
> Tim,
>
> I'm curious to know about your waypoint
>
> >*In my flying days, Strumble was a waypoint on the airway from *London
> >towards the Atlantic.
>
> Was Strumble a geographic point (e.g. name of village) or simply an invented
> name for a map position? And if the latter was it spelt in full like that or
> was strumble the conveneint way you said it.
>
> In my own flying experience (more limited and probably more recent)
> waypoints were always 5-letter groups and generally meaningless but
> pronounceable.
>
> Just wondering,
> Jim

[Bill Bensburg]

As a NY ATC for 26 years, I've had a lot of fun w/waypoints. Some of
my favorites:

VEEVA Approach fix for Vegas. "American 7-11, cleared VEEVA Las
Vegas". "Thank you. Thank you verry much".

Orlando international had some nice ones: GOOFY comes to mind.

Some incidents with ill-named fixes: a JFK arrival used the
intersection STIFF with an arrival route named STIFF one. A female
pilot was offended when asked if she had "the STIFF one".

Another JFK approach used the BOLLO intersection. As you can
imagine, several foreign pilots were confused by, "Cross BOLLO at
eight thousand" (New York? Cross below what?)

A (fortunately) departure fix is named "DITCH". We always
wondered what would happen if we cleared an aircraft to hold there
(cleared to DITCH....)

A nice sequence of fixes in the NE: PORKK FLIED RICED.

And I believe Souix City still has refused the 3-letter ID for
their navaid, "SUX".

cheers!

Bill

[Jim Hart]

Bill:

> * * A nice sequence of fixes in the NE: PORKK FLIED RICED.

I never flew in New Hampshire but a friend alerted me to what I think
is known as the Tweety-pie approach: via ITAWT and ITAWA to PUDYE and
TTATT then finally to IDEED.

Jim