[Dixonary] OT: iPod Touch

[Guerri Stevens]

I got one of these as a gift. I admit I cannot figure it out, and can't
find, so far, any "help" that is helpful. Do any of you have and
understand one of these and might be willing to provide assistance,
which maybe we should do via Email rather than driving anyone crazy here?

I have downloaded iTunes and based on a book my husband has, thought
there was a configuration of some kind, but it never showed up. I
plugged in the iPod, and thought I could then configure that in
conjuction with iTunes, but there again I am at a loss.

Here are a couple of things I want to do (I may be the only one in the
world with these wishes):

I plan to use the iPod to play music. No movies, TV, Email and the like
although maybe I should rethink Email although there is no keyboard, but
I digress.

When I turn the thing on, after sliding the button to unlock, I get a
screen full of apps. I would like to remove all those I don't plan to
use. I could see a place in iTunes for the apps but I can't figure out
how to delete them, assuming that is possible.

There is something called "iCloud" which apparently stores everything
somewhere. I don't want that. I'm assuming it is some kind of backup and
I will store music on CDs or my computer as backup. Is there a way to
unenroll or disable that or maybe it's not really installed yet.

Then there is the issue of the music. It keeps wanting to go to the
iStore or whatever, when what I want is to copy from a CD or from what I
have on my computer already.


--
Guerri

[—Keith Hale—]

First: i am clueless on iPods and iPhones, i'm an Android person (and
not that knowledgeable in that realm).

If i had this to figure out, i would go to an Apple Store (there is
one not far from me, and old friend just recently started working
there, in fact). They have "Apple Genius"es there that can talk you
through just about anything. At the store in Fort Worth, Texas there
is usually a wait, but i hear good things from people that have gone
in.

Odds are fairly good you aren't near one, though. I'm not sure where
you reside, Guerri.
apple.com should have online support, of one kind or another

On this page i found
http://www.apple.com/support/contact/ ::: "Check Coverage Status -
Most Apple products come with 90 days of complimentary technical
support and a one-year limited warranty. Please start by reviewing
your coverage status.
Enter your hardware serial number"

Below all that, there is a link to "Express Lane for iPod" which will
also ask for your serial number (which should be visible behind the
battery, if you don't have it).

Since i don't have one to plug in a serial number, i can't get much
farther. I'm sneaking my friend in the BCC field so he can maybe see
if my limited advice is wrong or incomplete.

I tried to be a little helpful. [C8


On 23 October 2011 14:34, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com> wrote:
> I got one of these as a gift. I admit I cannot figure it out, and can't
> find, so far, any "help" that is helpful. Do any of you have and understand
> one of these and might be willing to provide assistance, which maybe we
> should do via Email rather than driving anyone crazy here?
>
> I have downloaded iTunes and based on a book my husband has, thought there
> was a configuration of some kind, but it never showed up. I plugged in the
> iPod, and thought I could then configure that in conjuction with iTunes, but
> there again I am at a loss.
>
> Here are a couple of things I want to do (I may be the only one in the world
> with these wishes):
>
> I plan to use the iPod to play music. No movies, TV, Email and the like
> although maybe I should rethink Email although there is no keyboard, but I
> digress.
>
> When I turn the thing on, after sliding the button to unlock, I get a screen
> full of apps. I would like to remove all those I don't plan to use. I could
> see a place in iTunes for the apps but I can't figure out how to delete
> them, assuming that is possible.
>
> There is something called "iCloud" which apparently stores everything
> somewhere. I don't want that. I'm assuming it is some kind of backup and I
> will store music on CDs or my computer as backup. Is there a way to unenroll
> or disable that or maybe it's not really installed yet.
>
> Then there is the issue of the music. It keeps wanting to go to the iStore
> or whatever, when what I want is to copy from a CD or from what I have on my
> computer already.
>
>
> --
> Guerri
>

[Judy Madnick]

I have an iPod Touch and did copy my own music -- if I can remember how! And I also removed some of the apps. I can try to help...again, if I can remember what I did. I do have an after-market book that was useful, so I could look up some of the info in that.

I love using the email feature because I already filter all my email through gmail. It's nice to be able to check it when my computer is off.

Send me a private email we can go from there.

Judy

[Chris Carson]

Guerri,

What you have is essentially a "phoneless" iPhone. It's sort of an iPod on steroids. The configuration is done with the settings app. It looks a little like a gear. When launched it will give you an array of settings, the General menu containing the basic configuration. Unfortunately there is no way to delete the default set if apps. The only ones you can delete are the ones you add. Music can be added by 'ripping' CDs. If you have iTunes running and the iPod plugged in you can put a CD in the computer's drive and it will load, be recognized by iTunes and you will have the capability of importing the CD. Music already on your computer should be able to be dragged and dropped into the iTunes library.

The suggestion about the free 90 days of support is a good one. If you gave an Apple store handy, you can schedule an appointment with the Genius Bar and one if their support people will give you one on one support.

That's a few random thoughts that might be helpful. There should be a tutorial and help files on the unit. On an iPhone it's accessed via the Safari Browser which has a couple of favorites for help. You may need to have wifi access to do that though. I have a wireless router at home that gives me wifi access over my home Internet connection.

I think once you get past the initial learning curve you'll find the gadget incredibly useful. I play music and audio books on my commute as well as use a variety of apps on my iPhone. I hate to admit it but I'd be lost without it.

Chris

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 23, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com> wrote:

> I got one of these as a gift. I admit I cannot figure it out, and can't find, so far, any "help" that is helpful. Do any of you have and understand one of these and might be willing to provide assistance, which maybe we should do via Email rather than driving anyone crazy here?
>
> I have downloaded iTunes and based on a book my husband has, thought there was a configuration of some kind, but it never showed up. I plugged in the iPod, and thought I could then configure that in conjuction with iTunes, but there again I am at a loss.
>
> Here are a couple of things I want to do (I may be the only one in the world with these wishes):
>
> I plan to use the iPod to play music. No movies, TV, Email and the like although maybe I should rethink Email although there is no keyboard, but I digress.
>
> When I turn the thing on, after sliding the button to unlock, I get a screen full of apps. I would like to remove all those I don't plan to use. I could see a place in iTunes for the apps but I can't figure out how to delete them, assuming that is possible.
>
> There is something called "iCloud" which apparently stores everything somewhere. I don't want that. I'm assuming it is some kind of backup and I will store music on CDs or my computer as backup. Is there a way to unenroll or disable that or maybe it's not really installed yet.
>
> Then there is the issue of the music. It keeps wanting to go to the iStore or whatever, when what I want is to copy from a CD or from what I have on my computer already.
>
>
> --
> Guerri
>

[Daniel Widdis]

On 10/23/11 12:34 PM, Guerri Stevens wrote:

>I got one of these as a gift. I admit I cannot figure it out, and can't
>find, so far, any "help" that is helpful. Do any of you have and
>understand one of these and might be willing to provide assistance,
>which maybe we should do via Email rather than driving anyone crazy here?

Happy to help via email with any specific questions.

>Here are a couple of things I want to do (I may be the only one in the
>world with these wishes):
>
>I plan to use the iPod to play music. No movies, TV, Email and the like
>although maybe I should rethink Email although there is no keyboard, but
>I digress.

In general, you'll set up the music you want in iTunes, which you have on
your computer. Basically you use iTunes to set up your music, organize it
into various playlists in case you want to listen to different types of
music at different times as opposed to a random mixture, and then sync the
iTunes with your iPod.

You can also buy music from the Apple Store through iTunes (generally 99c
per song). You can also load audio files (MP3, etc.) from folders on your
computer, such as for ebooks and other publicly available/free music.
When you "sync" your iPod touch to your computer it will update.

>
>When I turn the thing on, after sliding the button to unlock, I get a
>screen full of apps. I would like to remove all those I don't plan to
>use. I could see a place in iTunes for the apps but I can't figure out
>how to delete them, assuming that is possible.

If you press your finger over an app and hold it there for a few seconds,
the app icons will start to wiggle, and some of them will have a little X
in the corner, allowing you to delete them. Unfortunately, most of the
built-in apps cannot be deleted. However, you can create "folders" to
store apps in. Just drag a (wiggling) icon on top of another icon and it
will create a folder; then drag other icons into the folder. If you
create a folder called "Unused" or something like that you can put all the
stuff you don't want in there and ignore it. :)

>
>There is something called "iCloud" which apparently stores everything
>somewhere. I don't want that. I'm assuming it is some kind of backup and
>I will store music on CDs or my computer as backup. Is there a way to
>unenroll or disable that or maybe it's not really installed yet.

iCloud isn't on unless you turn it on (in the settings). It doesn't store
anything. It simply synchronizes things between your iPod and your
computer. But not music (unless you pay extra). Just leave it off and
ignore it. I've got it on and it's fun for pictures that I take with my
iPhone, but not much else.

>
>Then there is the issue of the music. It keeps wanting to go to the
>iStore or whatever, when what I want is to copy from a CD or from what I
>have on my computer already.

Directions here: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1473

[Guerri Stevens]

Thanks for all who made suggestions! I am going to do a little research
online, and Dan sent me some ideas by Email. I sort of thought this
would be something that could be made to work for me almost
instantaneously, but I now see that I am going to have to put it some
effort, and not randomly poke at it.

There is apparently an intimate relationship between it and iTunes,
which I don't understand. You can use the thing without being connected
to iTunes, so I have to get some kind of grasp on what iTunes is for.
Organizing music, certainly, but I already have mine organized!


Guerri

Chris Carson wrote:
> Guerri,
>
> What you have is essentially a "phoneless" iPhone. It's sort of an iPod on steroids. The configuration is done with the settings app. It looks a little like a gear. When launched it will give you an array of settings, the General menu containing the basic configuration. Unfortunately there is no way to delete the default set if apps. The only ones you can delete are the ones you add. Music can be added by 'ripping' CDs. If you have iTunes running and the iPod plugged in you can put a CD in the computer's drive and it will load, be recognized by iTunes and you will have the capability of importing the CD. Music already on your computer should be able to be dragged and dropped into the iTunes library.
>
> The suggestion about the free 90 days of support is a good one. If you gave an Apple store handy, you can schedule an appointment with the Genius Bar and one if their support people will give you one on one support.
>
> That's a few random thoughts that might be helpful. There should be a tutorial and help files on the unit. On an iPhone it's accessed via the Safari Browser which has a couple of favorites for help. You may need to have wifi access to do that though. I have a wireless router at home that gives me wifi access over my home Internet connection.
>
> I think once you get past the initial learning curve you'll find the gadget incredibly useful. I play music and audio books on my commute as well as use a variety of apps on my iPhone. I hate to admit it but I'd be lost without it.
>
> Chris
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 23, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com> wrote:
>
>> I got one of these as a gift. I admit I cannot figure it out, and can't find, so far, any "help" that is helpful. Do any of you have and understand one of these and might be willing to provide assistance, which maybe we should do via Email rather than driving anyone crazy here?
>>
>> I have downloaded iTunes and based on a book my husband has, thought there was a configuration of some kind, but it never showed up. I plugged in the iPod, and thought I could then configure that in conjuction with iTunes, but there again I am at a loss.
>>
>> Here are a couple of things I want to do (I may be the only one in the world with these wishes):
>>
>> I plan to use the iPod to play music. No movies, TV, Email and the like although maybe I should rethink Email although there is no keyboard, but I digress.
>>
>> When I turn the thing on, after sliding the button to unlock, I get a screen full of apps. I would like to remove all those I don't plan to use. I could see a place in iTunes for the apps but I can't figure out how to delete them, assuming that is possible.
>>
>> There is something called "iCloud" which apparently stores everything somewhere. I don't want that. I'm assuming it is some kind of backup and I will store music on CDs or my computer as backup. Is there a way to unenroll or disable that or maybe it's not really installed yet.
>>
>> Then there is the issue of the music. It keeps wanting to go to the iStore or whatever, when what I want is to copy from a CD or from what I have on my computer already.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Guerri
>>
>

[Judy Madnick]

You'll enjoy it once you do your research. And remember -- it's good for our brains to learn new "stuff"!!

Judy

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Guerri Stevens" <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com>
To: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
Received: 10/24/2011 6:00:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixonary] OT: iPod Touch


<< Thanks for all who made suggestions! I am going to do a little
<< research
<< online, and Dan sent me some ideas by Email. I sort of
<< thought this
<< would be something that could be made to work for me almost
<< instantaneously, but I now see that I am going to have to put it
<< some
<< effort, and not randomly poke at it.

<< There is apparently an intimate relationship between it and
<< iTunes,
<< which I don't understand. You can use the thing without being
<< connected
<< to iTunes, so I have to get some kind of grasp on what iTunes
<< is for.
<< Organizing music, certainly, but I already have mine
<< organized!


<< Guerri

<< Chris Carson wrote:
<< > Guerri,
<< >
<< > What you have is essentially a "phoneless" iPhone. It's sort
<< of an iPod on steroids. The configuration is done with the
<< settings app. It looks a little like a gear. When launched it will
<< give you an array of settings, the General menu containing the
<< basic configuration. Unfortunately there is no way to delete the
<< default set if apps. The only ones you can delete are the ones
<< you add. Music can be added by 'ripping' CDs. If you have
<< iTunes running and the iPod plugged in you can put a CD in
<< the computer's drive and it will load, be recognized by iTunes
<< and you will have the capability of importing the CD. Music
<< already on your computer should be able to be dragged and
<< dropped into the iTunes library.
<< >
<< > The suggestion about the free 90 days of support is a good
<< one. If you gave an Apple store handy, you can schedule an
<< appointment with the Genius Bar and one if their support
<< people will give you one on one support.
<< >
<< > That's a few random thoughts that might be helpful. There
<< should be a tutorial and help files on the unit. On an iPhone it's
<< accessed via the Safari Browser which has a couple of
<< favorites for help. You may need to have wifi access to do that
<< though. I have a wireless router at home that gives me wifi
<< access over my home Internet connection.
<< >
<< > I think once you get past the initial learning curve you'll find
<< the gadget incredibly useful. I play music and audio books on
<< my commute as well as use a variety of apps on my iPhone. I
<< hate to admit it but I'd be lost without it.
<< >
<< > Chris
<< >
<< > Sent from my iPhone
<< >
<< > On Oct 23, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Guerri Stevens
<< <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com> wrote:
<< >
<< >> I got one of these as a gift. I admit I cannot figure it out, and
<< can't find, so far, any "help" that is helpful. Do any of you have
<< and understand one of these and might be willing to provide
<< assistance, which maybe we should do via Email rather than
<< driving anyone crazy here?
<< >>
<< >> I have downloaded iTunes and based on a book my
<< husband has, thought there was a configuration of some kind,
<< but it never showed up. I plugged in the iPod, and thought I
<< could then configure that in conjuction with iTunes, but there
<< again I am at a loss.
<< >>
<< >> Here are a couple of things I want to do (I may be the only
<< one in the world with these wishes):
<< >>
<< >> I plan to use the iPod to play music. No movies, TV, Email
<< and the like although maybe I should rethink Email although
<< there is no keyboard, but I digress.
<< >>
<< >> When I turn the thing on, after sliding the button to unlock, I
<< get a screen full of apps. I would like to remove all those I don't
<< plan to use. I could see a place in iTunes for the apps but I
<< can't figure out how to delete them, assuming that is possible.
<< >>
<< >> There is something called "iCloud" which apparently stores
<< everything somewhere. I don't want that. I'm assuming it is
<< some kind of backup and I will store music on CDs or my
<< computer as backup. Is there a way to unenroll or disable that
<< or maybe it's not really installed yet.
<< >>
<< >> Then there is the issue of the music. It keeps wanting to go
<< to the iStore or whatever, when what I want is to copy from a
<< CD or from what I have on my computer already.
<< >>
<< >>
<< >> --
<< >> Guerri
<< >>
<< >

[thejazzmonger]

No doubt that Steve Jobs and his iPod/iTunes revolution have made it easy to
carry a load of music around. My problem with it all is the Mp3 format. It
is such a terrible step backwards in sound quality. When you 'rip' a CD to
Mp3 format you are storing a file that is not only compressed but
selectively culled of more than half of the data bits of the original source
material. It is as if, having achieved high-quality digital sound, we are
intentionally going back to 8-track tapes. Yikes!

I rip & burn in order make CDs for my own use, so I can listen to big
collections of my favorites in lieu of listening to an hour or more of a
single artist. I have created compilations of Jazz & Big Band greats, Oldies
from the 50s & early 60s and CDs that have multiple versions by different
artists of particular favorites ("Stardust" or "Someone to Watch Over Me").

I rip using Microsoft's Media Player because they have a "Lossless" format.
It doesn't mean that NO data is lost from the original, but that you LOSE
LESS of it. I burn in the same format, so my tracks take up a good bit more
space than would Mp3 files. Still, I can get anywhere from 18 to 23 tracks
on a CD, a nice long session before I have to get up and pop in a new one.

sd


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Judy Madnick <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> You'll enjoy it once you do your research. And remember -- it's good for
> our brains to learn new "stuff"!!
>
> Judy
>
> ----- Original message
> ----------------------------------------
> From: "Guerri Stevens" <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com>
> To: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
> Received: 10/24/2011 6:00:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dixonary] OT: iPod Touch
>
>
> << Thanks for all who made suggestions! I am going to do a
> little
> << research
> << online, and Dan sent me some ideas by Email. I sort of
> << thought this
> << would be something that could be made to work for me
> almost
> << instantaneously, but I now see that I am going to have to
> put it
> << some
> << effort, and not randomly poke at it.
>
> << There is apparently an intimate relationship between it
> and
> << iTunes,
> << which I don't understand. You can use the thing without
> being
> << connected
> << to iTunes, so I have to get some kind of grasp on what
> iTunes
> << is for.
> << Organizing music, certainly, but I already have mine
> << organized!
>
>
> << Guerri
>
> << Chris Carson wrote:
> << > Guerri,
> << >
> << > What you have is essentially a "phoneless" iPhone. It's
> sort
> << of an iPod on steroids. The configuration is done with
> the
> << settings app. It looks a little like a gear. When
> launched it will
> << give you an array of settings, the General menu
> containing the
> << basic configuration. Unfortunately there is no way to
> delete the
> << default set if apps. The only ones you can delete are the
> ones
> << you add. Music can be added by 'ripping' CDs. If you have
> << iTunes running and the iPod plugged in you can put a CD
> in
> << the computer's drive and it will load, be recognized by
> iTunes
> << and you will have the capability of importing the CD.
> Music
> << already on your computer should be able to be dragged
> and
> << dropped into the iTunes library.
> << >
> << > The suggestion about the free 90 days of support is a
> good
> << one. If you gave an Apple store handy, you can schedule
> an
> << appointment with the Genius Bar and one if their support
> << people will give you one on one support.
> << >
> << > That's a few random thoughts that might be helpful.
> There
> << should be a tutorial and help files on the unit. On an
> iPhone it's
> << accessed via the Safari Browser which has a couple of
> << favorites for help. You may need to have wifi access to
> do that
> << though. I have a wireless router at home that gives me
> wifi
> << access over my home Internet connection.
> << >
> << > I think once you get past the initial learning curve
> you'll find
> << the gadget incredibly useful. I play music and audio
> books on
> << my commute as well as use a variety of apps on my iPhone.
> I
> << hate to admit it but I'd be lost without it.
> << >
> << > Chris
> << >
> << > Sent from my iPhone
> << >
> << > On Oct 23, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Guerri Stevens
> << <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com> wrote:
> << >
> << >> I got one of these as a gift. I admit I cannot figure
> it out, and
> << can't find, so far, any "help" that is helpful. Do any of
> you have
> << and understand one of these and might be willing to
> provide
> << assistance, which maybe we should do via Email rather
> than
> << driving anyone crazy here?
> << >>
> << >> I have downloaded iTunes and based on a book my
> << husband has, thought there was a configuration of some
> kind,
> << but it never showed up. I plugged in the iPod, and
> thought I
> << could then configure that in conjuction with iTunes, but
> there
> << again I am at a loss.
> << >>
> << >> Here are a couple of things I want to do (I may be the
> only
> << one in the world with these wishes):
> << >>
> << >> I plan to use the iPod to play music. No movies, TV,
> Email
> << and the like although maybe I should rethink Email
> although
> << there is no keyboard, but I digress.
> << >>
> << >> When I turn the thing on, after sliding the button to
> unlock, I
> << get a screen full of apps. I would like to remove all
> those I don't
> << plan to use. I could see a place in iTunes for the apps
> but I
> << can't figure out how to delete them, assuming that is
> possible.
> << >>
> << >> There is something called "iCloud" which apparently
> stores
> << everything somewhere. I don't want that. I'm assuming it
> is
> << some kind of backup and I will store music on CDs or my
> << computer as backup. Is there a way to unenroll or disable
> that
> << or maybe it's not really installed yet.
> << >>
> << >> Then there is the issue of the music. It keeps wanting
> to go
> << to the iStore or whatever, when what I want is to copy
> from a
> << CD or from what I have on my computer already.
> << >>
> << >>
> << >> --
> << >> Guerri
> << >>
> << >
>

[Guerri Stevens]

I don't remember exactly how I got music files onto my PC. Some of them
were done with something called Music Match Juke Box. Others with
Windows media player, but they are all MP3 format.

One of the problems I have with CDs made under the Juke Box software is
the volume level variance between various songs. If the player I'm using
(physical player) has the volume set at a good level for one song, the
next one might be too faint to hear or way too loud. I don't think I've
yet tried to make my own CDs with Media Player, so don't know whether it
will have the same problem, or whether it might have a way of balancing
out variations in volume.

Guerri

thejazzmonger wrote:
> ...
> I rip & burn in order make CDs for my own use, so I can listen to big
> collections of my favorites in lieu of listening to an hour or more of a
> single artist. I have created compilations of Jazz & Big Band greats,
> Oldies from the 50s & early 60s and CDs that have multiple versions by
> different artists of particular favorites ("Stardust" or "Someone to
> Watch Over Me").
>
> I rip using Microsoft's Media Player because they have a "Lossless"
> format. It doesn't mean that NO data is lost from the original, but that
> you LOSE LESS of it. I burn in the same format, so my tracks take up a
> good bit more space than would Mp3 files. Still, I can get anywhere from
> 18 to 23 tracks on a CD, a nice long session before I have to get up and
> pop in a new one.

[thejazzmonger]

Under "Tools/Burn" Media Player lets you opt for "Volume leveling across all
tracks." It doesn't work perfectly, but it is pretty good and seems to
eliminate unpleasant louds & softs. I really like what they have done with
the program. And it's free!

Of course, if you already have a huge catalog of Mp3s taken off your CD
collection you don't necessarily want to spend the time to re-rip all that
stuff. Will the iPod play any other format than Mp3?

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com> wrote:

> I don't remember exactly how I got music files onto my PC. Some of them
> were done with something called Music Match Juke Box. Others with Windows
> media player, but they are all MP3 format.
>
> One of the problems I have with CDs made under the Juke Box software is the
> volume level variance between various songs. If the player I'm using
> (physical player) has the volume set at a good level for one song, the next
> one might be too faint to hear or way too loud. I don't think I've yet tried
> to make my own CDs with Media Player, so don't know whether it will have the
> same problem, or whether it might have a way of balancing out variations in
> volume.
>
> Guerri
>
> thejazzmonger wrote:
>
>> ...
>> I rip & burn in order make CDs for my own use, so I can listen to big
>> collections of my favorites in lieu of listening to an hour or more of a
>> single artist. I have created compilations of Jazz & Big Band greats, Oldies
>> from the 50s & early 60s and CDs that have multiple versions by different
>> artists of particular favorites ("Stardust" or "Someone to Watch Over Me").
>>
>> I rip using Microsoft's Media Player because they have a "Lossless"
>> format. It doesn't mean that NO data is lost from the original, but that you
>> LOSE LESS of it. I burn in the same format, so my tracks take up a good bit
>> more space than would Mp3 files. Still, I can get anywhere from 18 to 23
>> tracks on a CD, a nice long session before I have to get up and pop in a new
>> one.
>>
>
>

[ktinkel]

Someone said you cannot remove the basic apps, and it is true. But you can move most of them into folders, which gets them out of your way.

It is true that the music format is MP3, but you can choose to use a higher-res format. I use Apple Lossless Encoding. It takes up more space but sounds better.

Apple is pushy about iTunes (the store, anyway), but I use an iPod the way you intend to, copying CDs from my library, and ignoring all blandishments. You may find its organizing tools useful; I’m not sure, myself. I just set things up in folders.

If you decide to explore some aspects of the Touch, you might find it useful. I store my medical records on apps (including blood pressures, lists of current meds, doctor addresses, and other lists and details). Text doesn’t take up much space.

[Guerri Stevens]

Well, does the volume leveling occur with the burn or the rip? If it's
the rip, you are right that i wouldn't want to re-rip everything.

I wonder if iTunes will create CDs? Guess I'll ultimately find out. One
thing it does that I don't think Media Player does is if you choose to
play one song, it will continue to the next one in the list afterward. I
don't *think* Media Player does that.

Guerri

thejazzmonger wrote:
> Under "Tools/Burn" Media Player lets you opt for "Volume leveling across
> all tracks." It doesn't work perfectly, but it is pretty good and seems
> to eliminate unpleasant louds & softs. I really like what they have done
> with the program. And it's free!
>
> Of course, if you already have a huge catalog of Mp3s taken off your CD
> collection you don't necessarily want to spend the time to re-rip all
> that stuff. Will the iPod play any other format than Mp3?
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com
> <mailto:guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com>> wrote:
>
> I don't remember exactly how I got music files onto my PC. Some of
> them were done with something called Music Match Juke Box. Others
> with Windows media player, but they are all MP3 format.
>
> One of the problems I have with CDs made under the Juke Box software
> is the volume level variance between various songs. If the player
> I'm using (physical player) has the volume set at a good level for
> one song, the next one might be too faint to hear or way too loud. I
> don't think I've yet tried to make my own CDs with Media Player, so
> don't know whether it will have the same problem, or whether it
> might have a way of balancing out variations in volume.
>
> Guerri
>
> thejazzmonger wrote:
>
> ...
> I rip & burn in order make CDs for my own use, so I can listen
> to big collections of my favorites in lieu of listening to an
> hour or more of a single artist. I have created compilations of
> Jazz & Big Band greats, Oldies from the 50s & early 60s and CDs
> that have multiple versions by different artists of particular
> favorites ("Stardust" or "Someone to Watch Over Me").
>
> I rip using Microsoft's Media Player because they have a
> "Lossless" format. It doesn't mean that NO data is lost from the
> original, but that you LOSE LESS of it. I burn in the same
> format, so my tracks take up a good bit more space than would
> Mp3 files. Still, I can get anywhere from 18 to 23 tracks on a
> CD, a nice long session before I have to get up and pop in a new
> one.
>
>
>

[Guerri Stevens]

When I start iTunes on the computer, at least, it seems to go
immediately to the store. I don't know what happens if you're not
connected to the internet. When I try to use iTunes on the iPod, it also
tries to connect. In both cases, I think it is bizarre. I should be able
to bring up iTunes and copy a song to the iPod, I would think, without
going online. If that is not possible, it will be a real nuisance!
Guerri

ktinkel wrote:
> Someone said you cannot remove the basic apps, and it is true. But you
> can move most of them into folders, which gets them out of your way.
>
> It is true that the music format is MP3, but you can choose to use a
> higher-res format. I use Apple Lossless Encoding. It takes up more space
> but sounds better.
>
> Apple is pushy about iTunes (the store, anyway), but I use an iPod the
> way you intend to, copying CDs from my library, and ignoring all
> blandishments. You may find its organizing tools useful; I’m not sure,
> myself. I just set things up in folders.
>
> If you decide to explore some aspects of the Touch, you might find it
> useful. I store my medical records on apps (including blood pressures,
> lists of current meds, doctor addresses, and other lists and details).
> Text doesn’t take up much space.
>
>

[thejazzmonger]

Volume leveling is an option you pick for your burn scenario. I think the
idea is that it will take various source material and put it down on the new
CD as if it were all mixed at one time under a single set of controls. Like
I said, not perfect, but I have been pleased with the results I got.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com> wrote:

> Well, does the volume leveling occur with the burn or the rip? If it's the
> rip, you are right that i wouldn't want to re-rip everything.
>
> I wonder if iTunes will create CDs? Guess I'll ultimately find out. One
> thing it does that I don't think Media Player does is if you choose to play
> one song, it will continue to the next one in the list afterward. I don't
> *think* Media Player does that.
>
> Guerri
>
> thejazzmonger wrote:
>
>> Under "Tools/Burn" Media Player lets you opt for "Volume leveling across
>> all tracks." It doesn't work perfectly, but it is pretty good and seems to
>> eliminate unpleasant louds & softs. I really like what they have done with
>> the program. And it's free!
>>
>> Of course, if you already have a huge catalog of Mp3s taken off your CD
>> collection you don't necessarily want to spend the time to re-rip all that
>> stuff. Will the iPod play any other format than Mp3?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com<mailto:
>> guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't remember exactly how I got music files onto my PC. Some of
>> them were done with something called Music Match Juke Box. Others
>> with Windows media player, but they are all MP3 format.
>>
>> One of the problems I have with CDs made under the Juke Box software
>> is the volume level variance between various songs. If the player
>> I'm using (physical player) has the volume set at a good level for
>> one song, the next one might be too faint to hear or way too loud. I
>> don't think I've yet tried to make my own CDs with Media Player, so
>> don't know whether it will have the same problem, or whether it
>> might have a way of balancing out variations in volume.
>>
>> Guerri
>>
>> thejazzmonger wrote:
>>
>> ...
>> I rip & burn in order make CDs for my own use, so I can listen
>> to big collections of my favorites in lieu of listening to an
>> hour or more of a single artist. I have created compilations of
>> Jazz & Big Band greats, Oldies from the 50s & early 60s and CDs
>> that have multiple versions by different artists of particular
>> favorites ("Stardust" or "Someone to Watch Over Me").
>>
>> I rip using Microsoft's Media Player because they have a
>> "Lossless" format. It doesn't mean that NO data is lost from the
>> original, but that you LOSE LESS of it. I burn in the same
>> format, so my tracks take up a good bit more space than would
>> Mp3 files. Still, I can get anywhere from 18 to 23 tracks on a
>> CD, a nice long session before I have to get up and pop in a new
>> one.
>>
>>
>>
>>