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mshefler
April 9th, 2011, 04:26 PM
Total Scores Through Round 2195

CUNNINGHAM, D 4937
CROM, S 4444
SAVAGE, T 4395
CARSON, C 4072
SHEFLER, M 4045
SCHULTZ, D 3409
LODGE, T 3402
EMERY, C 2966
KEATING, P 2769
WIDDIS, D 2568
BARRS, J 1426
SHEPHERDSON, N 1388
BOURNE, T 1334
HART, J 1309
MADNICK, J 1294
ABELL, T 1198
STEVENS, G 1026
KORNELIS, H 839
WELTZ, D 523
MORGAN, M 391
GRIECO, M 149
GRAHAM, S 40
HALE, K 35
HARRINGTON, M 14

Jim Hart
April 10th, 2011, 06:35 AM
Strange. The header says new word but the only messages I see from the
new dealer is a list of the total scores. Then there's Dave
Cunningham's easter-egg nad, so obviously he sees something I don't.
I'm reading the google groups page.

Jim

Dodi Schultz
April 10th, 2011, 07:58 AM
Jim Hart wrote:

> Strange. The header says new word but the only messages I see from the new dealer is a list of the total scores. Then there's Dave
> Cunningham's easter-egg nad, so obviously he sees something I don't. I'm reading the google groups page.
>

Yeah, it IS strange. I got everything properly by e-mail (rolling
scores, totals, the new-word announcement, and Dave's NAD, in that
order). But at the GoogleGroups site, which I just checked, everything
seems to be mixed up.

Anyway: You do know the new word, right? CHIXTAX. Deadline for
submission of defs, Monday noon Eastern US time, which I think will be 3
a.m. Tuesday in Melbourne.

My suggestion: Switch to e-mail delivery.

Paul Keating
April 10th, 2011, 08:52 AM
The dreaded Tapcis Forum message-id bug strikes again. Mike sent the
announcement, plus the messages about the rolling and total scores, about
much the same time, and from the Tapcis forum. The Tapics forum gave all
three the message id

<mshefler.3mnh0s9b7 (AT) no-mx (DOT) www.tapcis.com/forums>

Google groups expects message ids to be unique: it treats duplicate ids as
duplicate messages. So on the Google group the only one of the three you can
see, is the one that arrived last (total scores) ... and its subject is
"Round 2196 new word - CHIXTAX", which was the subject of the one that
arrived first.

On this issue, the Tapcis forum software is wrong, and the Google Group
software is entitled to be picky, or, as in this case, confused. RFC 2822:
"The message identifier (msg-id) itself MUST be a globally unique identifier
for a message. The generator of the message identifier MUST guarantee that
the msg-id is unique."

It's trivially easy to generate a proper GUID. Every web development
language out there has a way to do it. So there really is no excuse for this
bug.

--

Paul Keating
The Hague

-----Original Message-----
From: Dodi Schultz

Jim Hart wrote:

> Strange. The header says new word but the only messages I see from the new
> dealer is a list of the total scores. Then there's Dave
> Cunningham's easter-egg nad, so obviously he sees something I don't. I'm
> reading the google groups page.

Yeah, it IS strange. I got everything properly by e-mail (rolling scores,
totals, the new-word announcement, and Dave's NAD, in that
order). But at the GoogleGroups site, which I just checked, everything seems
to be mixed up.

Dodi Schultz
April 10th, 2011, 10:33 AM
Paul Keating wrote:

> The dreaded Tapcis Forum message-id bug strikes again. Mike sent the
> announcement, plus the messages about the rolling and total scores,
> about much the same time, and from the Tapcis forum. The Tapics forum
> gave all three the message id
>
> <mshefler.3mnh0s9b7 (AT) no-mx (DOT) www.tapcis.com/forums>

Why don't we just drop the tapcis.com connection? That whole website (of
which The Parlor is now the only semi-active part) is something of a
ghost town these days anyway. It, along with its namesake software, has
served its purpose and lived a long and previously useful life. Perhaps
it should be gently laid to rest—at least as far as Dixonary is concerned.

—Dodi

Jim Hart
April 10th, 2011, 09:11 PM
Thanks Dodi, I already had the details from the quoteback in Dave
Cunningham's nad. Plus I now have the whole story via the daily email
digest. I find the latter works fine, better for me than getting every
message by separate email.

Jim