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Paul Keating
March 26th, 2011, 07:04 PM
The winner of round 2191 is Tim Lodge, whose definition
"_Architecture_ a through-purlin truss consisting of a tie beam and
paired truss blades, with a central king post to support the roof
ridge" earned a natural 6.

There were two players in coveted second place with 5 points each:
John Barrs and Dave Cunningham.

The true definition was 14: "of nine ounces or nine inches in length
or weight" (OED citing Blount, Glossographia, 1656: <http://
www.oed.com/view/Entry/56394?p=emailAMxyVy6LCQ0oQ&d=56394>
). Which is not even a hapax, since it only appears in dictionaries:
in Latin it means nine-twelfths or three-quarters. And to those that
object that three quarters of a pound is 12 ounces not 9, recall that
in the 17th century the standard various standard pounds (troy or
averdepois) both had 12 ounces.

I really thought that the lumpy and awkward def would put people off.
I would have said, of nine ounces in weight or nine inches in length.
But the very awkwardness attracted two wayward votes. Players in this
game are exceedingly hard to take in.

1. a kind of pitchfork
No votes
Submitted by: Savage.

2. excess or superabundance
No votes
Submitted by: Stevens.

3. arousing or provoking laughter
Vote from: Abell
Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 1.

4. a narrow valley with high, steep sides
Vote from: Lodge
Submitted by: Crom, who scores natural 1.

5. indecisive, running in multiple directions
Votes from: Bourne and Stevens
Submitted by: Hale, who scores natural 2.

6. a wild flight of fancy, often quite alliterative
Vote from: Widdis
Submitted by: Shefler, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.

7. a truss having 12 chords; a bridge made of such
components
Votes from: Carson, Cunningham and Madnick
Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 3.

8. a plant alkaloid derived from hibiscus used as a local
anesthetic
Vote from: Hart
Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 1.

9. a collective term for the vestigial hip and leg bones
of seagoing mammals, including whales and dolphins
Votes from: Crom and Grieco
Submitted by: Emery, who scores natural 2.

10. _Architecture_ a through-purlin truss consisting of a
tie beam and paired truss blades, with a central king
post to support the roof ridge
Votes from: Barrs, Cunningham, Emery, Madnick,
Schultz and Shefler
Submitted by: Lodge, who scores natural 6.

11. of or relating to the structural characteristic of a
molecule that makes it impossible to superimpose it on
its mirror image
Vote from: Crom
Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 1.

12. divisible by the number twelve; of or related to a
quantity of twelve
Votes from: Emery, Hale, Lodge, Stevens and Weltz
Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 5.

13. of, or pertaining to the cranial area below the
occipital area
No votes
Submitted by: Harrington.

14. of nine ounces or nine inches in length or weight
Votes from: Barrs and Shefler
Real definition from OED citing Blount, Glossographia,
1656

15. of the spiral of a snail shell [ME _dod_ snail]
Votes from: Grieco, Hart and Widdis
Submitted by: Barrs, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.

16. no longer having a full faculty of speech
Vote from: Harrington
Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 1.

17. a heavy drapery covering a portal
Vote from: Carson
Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 1.

18. having two axes of symmetry
Votes from: Hale and Weltz

19. irregularly inflected
Votes from: Bourne, Harrington and Schultz
Submitted by: Madnick, who scores natural 3.

20. a fossilized leaf
Vote from: Abell
Submitted by: Grieco, who scores natural 1.

Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
Lodge 10 4 & 12 6 6
Cunningham 12 7 & 10 5 5
Barrs 15 10 & *14* 3 2 5
Hart 7 8 & 15 3 3
Madnick 19 7 & 10 3 3
Shefler 6 10 & *14* 1 2 3
Emery 9 10 & 12 2 2
Hale 5 12 & 18 2 2
Crom 4 9 & 11 1 1
Carson 11 7 & 17 1 1
Schultz 17 10 & 19 1 1
Widdis 3 6 & 15 1 1
Abell 8 3 & 20 1 1
Weltz 16 12 & 18 1 1
Grieco 20 9 & 15 1 1
Harrington 13 16 & 19 0 0
Savage 1 N/V 0 0
Bourne 5 & 19 0 0
Stevens 2 5 & 12 0 0

Dodi Schultz
March 26th, 2011, 10:35 PM
Paul Keating wrote:

> 18. having two axes of symmetry
> Votes from: Hale and Weltz
>

Paul, by whom was this def submitted? Your summary (see below) doesn't
list this as anyone's submission, either! (And where's the dictionary
definition in the list below??)

—Dodi

> Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
> ------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
> Lodge 10 4 & 12 6 6
> Cunningham 12 7 & 10 5 5
> Barrs 15 10 & *14* 3 2 5
> Hart 7 8 & 15 3 3
> Madnick 19 7 & 10 3 3
> Shefler 6 10 & *14* 1 2 3
> Emery 9 10 & 12 2 2
> Hale 5 12 & 18 2 2
> Crom 4 9 & 11 1 1
> Carson 11 7 & 17 1 1
> Schultz 17 10 & 19 1 1
> Widdis 3 6 & 15 1 1
> Abell 8 3 & 20 1 1
> Weltz 16 12 & 18 1 1
> Grieco 20 9 & 15 1 1
> Harrington 13 16 & 19 0 0
> Savage 1 N/V 0 0
> Bourne 5 & 19 0 0
> Stevens 2 5 & 12 0 0
>

Paul Keating
March 27th, 2011, 03:38 AM
Dodi points out that Tim Bourne's authorship of def 18 was neglected
in the results: my apologies. Here are the revised results: the only
difference is that Tim gets the credit for the two votes for his def,
changing his score from 0 to 2.

The dictionary definition does not appear in the player rankings by
design, on the principle that the dictionary is not a player and
cannot score. There is no obvious position for it in a table in
descending point order.

The winner of round 2191 is Tim Lodge, whose definition
"_Architecture_ a through-purlin truss consisting of a tie beam and
paired truss blades, with a central king post to support the roof
ridge" earned a natural 6.

There were two players in coveted second place with 5 points each:
John Barrs and Dave Cunningham.

The true definition was 14: "of nine ounces or nine inches in length
or weight" (OED citing Blount, Glossographia, 1656: <http://
www.oed.com/view/Entry/56394?p=emailAMxyVy6LCQ0oQ&d=56394>). Which is
not even a hapax, since it only appears in dictionaries: in Latin it
means nine-twelfths or three-quarters. And to those that
object that three quarters of a pound is 12 ounces not 9, recall that
in the 17th century the various standard pounds (troy or averdepois)
both had 12 ounces.

I really thought that the lumpy and awkward def would put people off.
I would have said, of nine ounces in weight or nine inches in length.
But the very awkwardness attracted two wayward votes. Players in this
game are exceedingly hard to take in.

1. a kind of pitchfork
No votes
Submitted by: Savage.

2. excess or superabundance
No votes
Submitted by: Stevens.

3. arousing or provoking laughter
Vote from: Abell
Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 1.

4. a narrow valley with high, steep sides
Vote from: Lodge
Submitted by: Crom, who scores natural 1.

5. indecisive, running in multiple directions
Votes from: Bourne and Stevens
Submitted by: Hale, who scores natural 2.

6. a wild flight of fancy, often quite alliterative
Vote from: Widdis
Submitted by: Shefler, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.

7. a truss having 12 chords; a bridge made of such
components
Votes from: Carson, Cunningham and Madnick
Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 3.

8. a plant alkaloid derived from hibiscus used as a local
anesthetic
Vote from: Hart
Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 1.

9. a collective term for the vestigial hip and leg bones
of seagoing mammals, including whales and dolphins
Votes from: Crom and Grieco
Submitted by: Emery, who scores natural 2.

10. _Architecture_ a through-purlin truss consisting of a
tie beam and paired truss blades, with a central king
post to support the roof ridge
Votes from: Barrs, Cunningham, Emery, Madnick,
Schultz and Shefler
Submitted by: Lodge, who scores natural 6.

11. of or relating to the structural characteristic of a
molecule that makes it impossible to superimpose it on
its mirror image
Vote from: Crom
Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 1.

12. divisible by the number twelve; of or related to a
quantity of twelve
Votes from: Emery, Hale, Lodge, Stevens and Weltz
Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 5.

13. of, or pertaining to the cranial area below the
occipital area
No votes
Submitted by: Harrington.

14. of nine ounces or nine inches in length or weight
Votes from: Barrs and Shefler
Real definition from OED citing Blount, Glossographia,
1656

15. of the spiral of a snail shell [ME _dod_ snail]
Votes from: Grieco, Hart and Widdis
Submitted by: Barrs, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.

16. no longer having a full faculty of speech
Vote from: Harrington
Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 1.

17. a heavy drapery covering a portal
Vote from: Carson
Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 1.

18. having two axes of symmetry
Votes from: Hale and Weltz
Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 2.

19. irregularly inflected
Votes from: Bourne, Harrington and Schultz
Submitted by: Madnick, who scores natural 3.

20. a fossilized leaf
Vote from: Abell
Submitted by: Grieco, who scores natural 1.

Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
Lodge 10 4 & 12 6 6
Cunningham 12 7 & 10 5 5
Barrs 15 10 & *14* 3 2 5
Hart 7 8 & 15 3 3
Madnick 19 7 & 10 3 3
Shefler 6 10 & *14* 1 2 3
Emery 9 10 & 12 2 2
Bourne 18 5 & 19 2 2
Hale 5 12 & 18 2 2
Crom 4 9 & 11 1 1
Carson 11 7 & 17 1 1
Schultz 17 10 & 19 1 1
Widdis 3 6 & 15 1 1
Abell 8 3 & 20 1 1
Weltz 16 12 & 18 1 1
Grieco 20 9 & 15 1 1
Harrington 13 16 & 19 0 0
Savage 1 N/V 0 0
Stevens 2 5 & 12 0 0


On Mar 27, 5:35*am, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchu... (AT) nasw (DOT) org> wrote:
> Paul Keating wrote:
> > 18. having two axes of symmetry
> > * * Votes from: * Hale and Weltz
>
> Paul, by whom was this def submitted? Your summary (see below) doesn't
> list this as anyone's submission, either! (And where's the dictionary
> definition in the list below??)
>
> Dodi
>
> > * * Player * * * * Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
> > * * ------ * * * * --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
> > * * Lodge * * * * * 10 * *4 & 12 * * 6 * * * * * * *6
> > * * Cunningham * * *12 * *7 & 10 * * 5 * * * * * * *5
> > * * Barrs * * * * * 15 10 & *14* * * 3 * * 2 * * * *5
> > * * Hart * * * * * * 7 * *8 & 15 * * 3 * * * * * * *3
> > * * Madnick * * * * 19 * *7 & 10 * * 3 * * * * * * *3
> > * * Shefler * * * * *6 10 & *14* * * 1 * * 2 * * * *3
> > * * Emery * * * * * *9 * 10 & 12 * * 2 * * * * * * *2
> > * * Hale * * * * * * 5 * 12 & 18 * * 2 * * * * * * *2
> > * * Crom * * * * * * 4 * *9 & 11 * * 1 * * * * * * *1
> > * * Carson * * * * *11 * *7 & 17 * * 1 * * * * * * *1
> > * * Schultz * * * * 17 * 10 & 19 * * 1 * * * * * * *1
> > * * Widdis * * * * * 3 * *6 & 15 * * 1 * * * * * * *1
> > * * Abell * * * * * *8 * *3 & 20 * * 1 * * * * * * *1
> > * * Weltz * * * * * 16 * 12 & 18 * * 1 * * * * * * *1
> > * * Grieco * * * * *20 * *9 & 15 * * 1 * * * * * * *1
> > * * Harrington * * *13 * 16 & 19 * * 0 * * * * * * *0
> > * * Savage * * * * * 1 * * * N/V * * 0 * * * * * * *0
> > * * Bourne * * * * * * * *5 & 19 * * 0 * * * * * * *0
> > * * Stevens * * * * *2 * *5 & 12 * * 0 * * * * * * *0
>
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