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Dodi Schultz
August 14th, 2005, 01:26 PM
Hugo wrote:

>> Actually, there is a provision - rule 4.c.1:
>>
>> (c) If the dealer is confronted with two definitions very
>> close to one another, the dealer may in her or his discretion
>> combine them.
>>
>> (1) If one (or any) of those definitions is the true
>> definition of The Word, any votes for the combined definition result
>> in a point for the fictitious definition, and two points for the
>> voter, except that the author of the fictitious definition gets no
>> points for voting for the combined definition.
>>
>> Unless I'm misinterpreting, I think this means that John gets 1 point
>> because Russ voted for his fake def, but nothing more. And Russ gets
>> two points for voting for the correct def.

I agree with Hugo. This clearly covers the situation. And it's a D1 rather
than a D2 for the dealer, IMO.

>> Of course, the most important rule still is (and always will be)
>> that da dealah iz da bozz.

I believe that's only if there is no applicable rule, isn't it? In this
case, there seems to be a rule.

--Dodi


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Daniel B. Widdis
August 14th, 2005, 01:51 PM
On 8/14/05, Dodi Schultz <schultz (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> I agree with Hugo. This clearly covers the situation. And it's a D1 rather
> than a D2 for the dealer, IMO.

I'll jump on this bandwagon of agreement. Interestingly, this is one of the
two situations where the Dixonary and Fictionary scoring rules differ (the
other being a 2 point bonus for a D0). Those of you who use Autodealer may
have wondered just what that choice meant... in Fictionary, a player voting
for his/her own definition that was combined with the real one scores two
points; not so in Dixonary.
I've always wondered why the original rule-makers decided to disqualify an
entire vote for one's own definition, but that's the rules, fair or
otherwise, just as it might be "unfair" not to reward a D0 other than by
momentary fame and admiration of one's peers.

>> Of course, the most important rule still is (and always will be)
> >> that da dealah iz da bozz. [Hugo's quote]
>
> I believe that's only if there is no applicable rule, isn't it? In this
> case, there seems to be a rule.

As I think has been recently established, we don't always exactly follow
the rules. :) But more importantly, precedent has been that the dealer can
award dealer points if/when the dealer thinks his/her actions may have
deprived the player of points otherwise. While combining definitions is
relatively common, if it was in the dealer's opinion that the submitted
definition included vote-gathering attributes that the combined/real
definition did not, then a point or two seems justified.
As for me, I am quite safe from making these decisions as dealer, unlike
Dodi, who seems recently to have been forced to become an expert. :)
--
Dan Widdis


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John Barrs
August 14th, 2005, 04:46 PM
Tony - All

>If popular opinion is that I shouldn't have awarded the two points (and it certainly looks that way now), I have no objection to
their being rescinded. It's only a game.


I hope everyone realises that I, as the discussed innocent bystander, also submit to this. 'sententia voce populi stat' was meant to
mean 'let stand the decision of the the voice of the people'

JohnnyB [using email; via corypaheus/yahoogroups]




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