[Dixonary] Round 2059: quoss - Final Posting

[Christopher Carson]

For some reason, all of the vote messages didn't get forwarded from Google Groups. However, I did run a check before finalizing the score so I believe I got everyone who submitted votes. Mill may wish I'd not done that since she has once again attained the heights with her cone of fibers, receiving 6 natural votes plus 2 for ferreting out the real def. I think this puts her in that elect group of players who have achieved back to back deals.

Daniel Widdis takes coveted second place with 7 points. Tim Lodge is runner-up with 4 points.

The true definition was 14: "To barter, exchange." (OED 2nd), which 2 perceptive players guessed.

1. A bonus stroke in croquet awarded for unfair play by an
opponent.
Vote from: Weltz
Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 1.

2. A particular kind of bit used in carriage racing.
Votes from: Shefler, Weltz and Widdis
Submitted by: Savage, who scores natural 3.

3. A wild horse _Equus mongolensis_ of Central Asian
steppes.
Votes from: Hart and Shepherdson
Submitted by: Lodge, who scores 2 + 2, total 4.

4. _Nautical_ Small stuff made from rope yarns twisted
together.
Votes from: Abell, Barrs, Bourne, Cunningham,
Heimerson, Morgan and Schultz
Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 7.

5. A beverage of South Asia made by fermenting and
distilling the juice of the mangosteen (genus
Garcinia).
Vote from: Madnick
Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 1.

6. The pulp left after pressing apples to make cider.
Votes from: Schultz and Stevens
Submitted by: Crom, who scores natural 2.

7. To grumble, complain.
Votes from: Crom, Lodge and Shefler
Submitted by: Heimerson, who scores natural 3.

8. A chemical substance that produces fire through
friction.
No votes
Submitted by: Stevens.

9. The cone of fibers that builds up on a spindle during
spinning.
Votes from: Abell, Bourne, Crom, Cunningham,
Heimerson and Stevens
Submitted by: Morgan, who scores 6 + 2, total 8.

10. A wild ass of Asia, now believed extinct.
Vote from: Hart
Submitted by: Shefler, who scores natural 1.

11. An uncontrollable impulse.
No votes
Submitted by: Shepherdson.

12. An amphibious opossum of South America.
No votes
Submitted by: Madnick.

13. In printing, the allowed variance over or under the
ordered quantity, traditionally 5 percent or one quire
per ream.
Votes from: Shepherdson and Widdis
Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 2.

14. To barter, exchange.
Votes from: Lodge and Morgan
Real definition from OED 2nd

15. Lambswool that has been washed and combed but not yet
spun.
Vote from: Barrs
Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 1.

16. A Russian beverage (see _kvass_).
Vote from: Madnick
Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 1.

17. A unique lichen found above the timberline in the White
Mountains of New Hampshire.
No votes
Submitted by: Abell.

18. A yellowish anthelmintic effective against the human
tapeworm, obtained from cusso, the female flowers of
the Abyssinian tree _Hagenia abbyssinica_.
No votes
Submitted by: Barrs.

Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
Morgan 9 4 & *14* 6 2 8
Widdis 4 2 & 13 7 7
Lodge 3 7 & *14* 2 2 4
Heimerson 7 4 & 9 3 3
Savage 2 N/V 3 3
Crom 6 7 & 9 2 2
Hart 13 3 & 10 2 2
Schultz 15 4 & 6 1 1
Shefler 10 2 & 7 1 1
Weltz 5 1 & 2 1 1
Cunningham 16 4 & 9 1 1
Bourne 1 4 & 9 1 1
Stevens 8 6 & 9 0 0
Shepherdson 11 3 & 13 0 0
Abell 17 4 & 9 0 0
Barrs 18 4 & 15 0 0
Madnick 12 5 & 16 0 0

[Daniel B. Widdis]

Whew!!! I had my word picked out and everything!

--
Dan

-----Original Message-----
Daniel Widdis takes coveted second place with 7 points. Tim Lodge is
runner-up with 4 points.

[Judy Madnick]

I think I'd better find a better source for fake definitions. <sigh>

Judy

[Millie Morgan]

Damn those fibers!
I really must get access to that OED 2 .. at least then I would have had
some warning that I'd fluked the correct guess and that "The Chair" might be
mine again. Grrrr.
Now to drum up a word ...

Millie




----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Carson" <clcarson (AT) live (DOT) com>
To: <dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:46 AM
Subject: [Dixonary] Round 2059: quoss - Final Posting


For some reason, all of the vote messages didn't get forwarded from Google
Groups. However, I did run a check before finalizing the score so I believe
I got everyone who submitted votes. Mill may wish I'd not done that since
she has once again attained the heights with her cone of fibers, receiving 6
natural votes plus 2 for ferreting out the real def. I think this puts her
in that elect group of players who have achieved back to back deals.

Daniel Widdis takes coveted second place with 7 points. Tim Lodge is
runner-up with 4 points.

The true definition was 14: "To barter, exchange." (OED 2nd), which 2
perceptive players guessed.

1. A bonus stroke in croquet awarded for unfair play by an
opponent.
Vote from: Weltz
Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 1.

2. A particular kind of bit used in carriage racing.
Votes from: Shefler, Weltz and Widdis
Submitted by: Savage, who scores natural 3.

3. A wild horse _Equus mongolensis_ of Central Asian
steppes.
Votes from: Hart and Shepherdson
Submitted by: Lodge, who scores 2 + 2, total 4.

4. _Nautical_ Small stuff made from rope yarns twisted
together.
Votes from: Abell, Barrs, Bourne, Cunningham,
Heimerson, Morgan and Schultz
Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 7.

5. A beverage of South Asia made by fermenting and
distilling the juice of the mangosteen (genus
Garcinia).
Vote from: Madnick
Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 1.

6. The pulp left after pressing apples to make cider.
Votes from: Schultz and Stevens
Submitted by: Crom, who scores natural 2.

7. To grumble, complain.
Votes from: Crom, Lodge and Shefler
Submitted by: Heimerson, who scores natural 3.

8. A chemical substance that produces fire through
friction.
No votes
Submitted by: Stevens.

9. The cone of fibers that builds up on a spindle during
spinning.
Votes from: Abell, Bourne, Crom, Cunningham,
Heimerson and Stevens
Submitted by: Morgan, who scores 6 + 2, total 8.

10. A wild ass of Asia, now believed extinct.
Vote from: Hart
Submitted by: Shefler, who scores natural 1.

11. An uncontrollable impulse.
No votes
Submitted by: Shepherdson.

12. An amphibious opossum of South America.
No votes
Submitted by: Madnick.

13. In printing, the allowed variance over or under the
ordered quantity, traditionally 5 percent or one quire
per ream.
Votes from: Shepherdson and Widdis
Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 2.

14. To barter, exchange.
Votes from: Lodge and Morgan
Real definition from OED 2nd

15. Lambswool that has been washed and combed but not yet
spun.
Vote from: Barrs
Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 1.

16. A Russian beverage (see _kvass_).
Vote from: Madnick
Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 1.

17. A unique lichen found above the timberline in the White
Mountains of New Hampshire.
No votes
Submitted by: Abell.

18. A yellowish anthelmintic effective against the human
tapeworm, obtained from cusso, the female flowers of
the Abyssinian tree _Hagenia abbyssinica_.
No votes
Submitted by: Barrs.

Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
Morgan 9 4 & *14* 6 2 8
Widdis 4 2 & 13 7 7
Lodge 3 7 & *14* 2 2 4
Heimerson 7 4 & 9 3 3
Savage 2 N/V 3 3
Crom 6 7 & 9 2 2
Hart 13 3 & 10 2 2
Schultz 15 4 & 6 1 1
Shefler 10 2 & 7 1 1
Weltz 5 1 & 2 1 1
Cunningham 16 4 & 9 1 1
Bourne 1 4 & 9 1 1
Stevens 8 6 & 9 0 0
Shepherdson 11 3 & 13 0 0
Abell 17 4 & 9 0 0
Barrs 18 4 & 15 0 0
Madnick 12 5 & 16 0 0

[Millie Morgan]

You wouldn't like to share, would you?

Millie




----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel B. Widdis" <widdis (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
To: <dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:19 AM
Subject: RE: [Dixonary] Round 2059: quoss - Final Posting


> Whew!!! I had my word picked out and everything!
>
> --
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Daniel Widdis takes coveted second place with 7 points. Tim Lodge is
> runner-up with 4 points.
>
>

[Tim Lodge]

Millie

Access to the online OED might not have helped this time, as I
couldn't find QUOSS there. Very odd!

-- Tim L

On Nov 25, 7:57*pm, "Millie Morgan" <milliemmor... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> I really must get access to that OED 2 .. at least then I would have had
> some warning that I'd fluked the correct guess and that "The Chair" might be
> mine again. Grrrr.

[Chris Carson]

Tim,

Do you have the full OED online? Last time I looked they wanted a
pretty hefty price unless it's available from your library. I
generally replenish my list with a visit to the library to browse the
full multivolume set. Last trip I spent some time with the "Q" volume.

Chris

[Tim Lodge]

Chris

>> Do you have the full OED online? <<

Well, I thought I did! I access it through my local library's
subscription. The help for Online OED says:

>> The OED is currently being revised, with the aim of producing a completely updated third edition. Draft material from the revision programme is published online, alongside unrevised entries from the 20-volume Second Edition, first published in 1989, and its 3-volume Additions Series, published in 1993 (volumes 1 and 2) and 1997 (volume 3). Many of the entries in the Additions volumes consist of sections which are additions to an entry previously published in the Second Edition; such sections are appended to the end of the appropriate Second Edition entry. Complete entries published for the first time in the Additions volumes are presented as free-standing entries, along with entries from the Second Edition.

More revised entries are added to the online Dictionary every quarter,
replacing older versions from the Second Edition and Additions Series.
<<

Maybe QUOSS has been revised out - the list goes straight from QUORUM
to QUOTA with nothing in between. I take it you were looking at the
printed edition.

-- Tim L

[Tim Lodge]

Chris

I was a little hasty in pressing send on my last message. After
reading a bit more of the OED help files, I discovered it was possible
to search the Second Edition (1989) only - the link was a bit tucked
away. Sure enough, QUOSS is there with the definition you used. I
don't quite understand why it doesn't show up when I search the New
Edition, but at least I will know how to do it in future.

-- Tim L

[Chris Carson]

Tom,

Ah! I'm glad you found it. My library evidently doesn't want to pay
the OED fees so I only have access to the print version. One my Dixon
nightmares is to miscopy sometime and inadvertently post a mis-spelled
word.

Chris

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 26, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Tim Lodge <5sfwiyj02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com>
wrote:

> Chris
>
> I was a little hasty in pressing send on my last message. After
> reading a bit more of the OED help files, I discovered it was possible
> to search the Second Edition (1989) only - the link was a bit tucked
> away. Sure enough, QUOSS is there with the definition you used. I
> don't quite understand why it doesn't show up when I search the New
> Edition, but at least I will know how to do it in future.
>
> -- Tim L
>

[John Barrs]

Chris, Tim

Re online OED (via Library)
It is amazing how the two versions differ. Out of family pride I was
searching for citations citing my Father-in-Law and found 41 of them all
referring to the 1983 edition of his book. I know one was missing for which
he was the primary citation in the 1993 printed edition - so I searched the
online 1989 edition - not a single citation! And the one that was in the
1993 'edition' is not one of those given in the current edition.
What is surprising to me is that there are words used in the citations which
do not occur in the OED itself - or there is no sensible meaning given in
the OED ("birdsmouth); bird's-mouth occurs - "batts" where there is no
meaning given related to what he was talking about)
(Since the cited edition of his books there are now 4 more editions
published and we are involved with Google Libraries re the class action
about royalties which the US Court has set aside)
My favourite among the citations is "The walings should be placed in the
centre of the polings" (which refers to where the horizontal beams in a
foundation that brace vertical piles should be placed)

JohnnyB

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Carson [mailto:clcarson (AT) live (DOT) com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:35 PM
> To: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
> Subject: Re: [Dixonary] Re: Round 2059: quoss - Final Posting
>
> Tom,
>
> Ah! I'm glad you found it. My library evidently doesn't want
> to pay the OED fees so I only have access to the print
> version. One my Dixon nightmares is to miscopy sometime and
> inadvertently post a mis-spelled word.
>
> Chris
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 26, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Tim Lodge <5sfwiyj02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com>
> wrote:
>
> > Chris
> >
> > I was a little hasty in pressing send on my last message. After
> > reading a bit more of the OED help files, I discovered it
> was possible
> > to search the Second Edition (1989) only - the link was a bit tucked
> > away. Sure enough, QUOSS is there with the definition you used. I
> > don't quite understand why it doesn't show up when I search the New
> > Edition, but at least I will know how to do it in future.
> >
> > -- Tim L
> >
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