Re: [Dixonary] XYSTER -- further correction

[EnDash@aol.com]

That gave me a clue where to look; and, sure enough, Dan voted for 16 and
19 -- not 16 and 17. Corrected below, and I have no idea how I let these
errors creep in.

In a message dated 11/18/2009 12:34:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
schultz (AT) compuserve (DOT) com writes:

Millie Morgan wrote:

> I thought I might be off the hook there for a moment, as I
> believe I only scored 4 points (I don't think Dan did actually
> vote for my No.17)

Ah. I think his was the other vote for my #19. (Doesn't change
the overall result.)

--Dodi


And the next deal is for Tim Bourne with 4 natural points

1: a ganglion
Voted for by: Nancy Shepherdson
FROM Tim Lodge who voted *9* and 19, and scores 1 + 2 = 3*

2: a timekeeper
Voted for by nobody
FROM Toni Savage who didn't vote, and scores 0 + 0 = 0

3: a surgical clamp
Voted for by: Johnny Barrs, Nancy Shepherdson, Russ Heimerson
FROM Tim Bourne who didn't vote, and scores 1dp + 3 + 0 = 4

4: an acolyte of Zoroastrianism
Voted for by: Millie Morgan
FROM Nancy Shepherdson who voted 1 and 3, and scores 1 + 0 = 1

5: a professional jester or minstrel
Voted for by: Dave Cunningham
FROM Russ Heimerson who voted 3 and *9*, and scores 1 + 2 = 3*

6: _obs._ a joiner or cabinetmaker
Voted for by: Mike Shefler, Dodi Schultz
FROM Dave Cunningham who voted 5 and 11, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

7: a tropical dodder of Central America
Voted for by: Jim Hart, Dodi Schultz
FROM Tony Abell who voted 12 and 15, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

8: someone in the grip of inner conflict
Voted for by nobody
FROM Judy Madnick who didn't vote, and scores 0 + 0 = 0

9: a surgical instrument for scraping bones
Voted for by: Paul Keating, Tim Lodge, Johnny Barrs, Mike Shefler, Millie
Morgan, Scott Crom, Guerri Stevens, Russ Heimerson
FROM AHD4 which can't vote, and scores D8

10: [Gk.] a runner used to carry messages in battle
Voted for by nobody
FROM Mike Shefler who voted 6 and *9*, and scores 0 + 2 = 2*

11: a plaited doughnut deep-fried and soaked in syrup
Voted for by: Dave Cunningham
FROM Chris Carson who voted 15 and 20, and scores 1 + 0 = 1

12: an old woman, especially one who is considered ugly
Voted for by: Tony Abell
FROM Dan Widdis who voted 16 and 19, and scores 1 + 0 = 1

13: a confidence artist whose specialty is switching packages
Voted for by: Scott Crom
FROM Chuck Emery who didn't vote, and scores 1 + 0 = 1

14: one who is out-of-touch with reality or unwilling to accept reality
Voted for by nobody
FROM Guerri Stevens who voted *9* and 17, and scores 0 + 2 = 2*

15: any of several varieties of South American sunflower, esp. those of
the subfamily Mutisioideae
Voted for by: Chris Carson, Tony Abell
FROM Jim Hart who voted 7 and 17, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

16: one who frequents churches for a living; as, a beggar or seller of
candles [Gk. _xustos_ portico]
Voted for by: Paul Keating, Dan Widdis
FROM Paul Keating who voted *9* and (16), and scores 1 + 2 = 3*

17: a slender archaeological trowel, having a leaf-shaped blade at one end
and a rectangular blade at the other
Voted for by: Jim Hart, Guerri Stevens
FROM Millie Morgan who voted 4 and *9*, and scores 2 + 2 = 4*

18: Xystus: a musical instrument used in the worship of Isis; played like
a violin by scraping the strings [Grk _zustros_ scraper]
Voted for by nobody
FROM Johnny Barrs who voted 3 and *9*, and scores 0 + 2 = 2*

19: a prearranged code term consistently substituted for a particular
word or phrase in an otherwise plain-language confidential communication
Voted for by: Tim Lodge, Dan Widdis
FROM Dodi Schultz who voted 6 and 7, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

20: an ancient device which measured time by marking the regulated flow of
water through a small opening, less accurately than the later clepsydra
Voted for by: Chris Carson
FROM Scott Crom who voted *9* and 13, and scores 1 + 2 = 3*

[France International]

Dick,

Don't you think that's kind of cruel to give Tim 1 DP to make him the dealer?

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: EnDash (AT) aol (DOT) com
To: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixonary] XYSTER -- further correction


That gave me a clue where to look; and, sure enough, Dan voted for 16 and 19 -- not 16 and 17. Corrected below, and I have no idea how I let these errors creep in.

In a message dated 11/18/2009 12:34:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, schultz (AT) compuserve (DOT) com writes:
Millie Morgan wrote:

> I thought I might be off the hook there for a moment, as I
> believe I only scored 4 points (I don't think Dan did actually
> vote for my No.17)

Ah. I think his was the other vote for my #19. (Doesn't change
the overall result.)

--Dodi

And the next deal is for Tim Bourne with 4 natural points

1: a ganglion
Voted for by: Nancy Shepherdson
FROM Tim Lodge who voted *9* and 19, and scores 1 + 2 = 3*

2: a timekeeper
Voted for by nobody
FROM Toni Savage who didn't vote, and scores 0 + 0 = 0

3: a surgical clamp
Voted for by: Johnny Barrs, Nancy Shepherdson, Russ Heimerson
FROM Tim Bourne who didn't vote, and scores 1dp + 3 + 0 = 4

4: an acolyte of Zoroastrianism
Voted for by: Millie Morgan
FROM Nancy Shepherdson who voted 1 and 3, and scores 1 + 0 = 1

5: a professional jester or minstrel
Voted for by: Dave Cunningham
FROM Russ Heimerson who voted 3 and *9*, and scores 1 + 2 = 3*

6: _obs._ a joiner or cabinetmaker
Voted for by: Mike Shefler, Dodi Schultz
FROM Dave Cunningham who voted 5 and 11, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

7: a tropical dodder of Central America
Voted for by: Jim Hart, Dodi Schultz
FROM Tony Abell who voted 12 and 15, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

8: someone in the grip of inner conflict
Voted for by nobody
FROM Judy Madnick who didn't vote, and scores 0 + 0 = 0

9: a surgical instrument for scraping bones
Voted for by: Paul Keating, Tim Lodge, Johnny Barrs, Mike Shefler, Millie Morgan, Scott Crom, Guerri Stevens, Russ Heimerson
FROM AHD4 which can't vote, and scores D8

10: [Gk.] a runner used to carry messages in battle
Voted for by nobody
FROM Mike Shefler who voted 6 and *9*, and scores 0 + 2 = 2*

11: a plaited doughnut deep-fried and soaked in syrup
Voted for by: Dave Cunningham
FROM Chris Carson who voted 15 and 20, and scores 1 + 0 = 1

12: an old woman, especially one who is considered ugly
Voted for by: Tony Abell
FROM Dan Widdis who voted 16 and 19, and scores 1 + 0 = 1

13: a confidence artist whose specialty is switching packages
Voted for by: Scott Crom
FROM Chuck Emery who didn't vote, and scores 1 + 0 = 1

14: one who is out-of-touch with reality or unwilling to accept reality
Voted for by nobody
FROM Guerri Stevens who voted *9* and 17, and scores 0 + 2 = 2*

15: any of several varieties of South American sunflower, esp. those of the subfamily Mutisioideae
Voted for by: Chris Carson, Tony Abell
FROM Jim Hart who voted 7 and 17, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

16: one who frequents churches for a living; as, a beggar or seller of candles [Gk. _xustos_ portico]
Voted for by: Paul Keating, Dan Widdis
FROM Paul Keating who voted *9* and (16), and scores 1 + 2 = 3*

17: a slender archaeological trowel, having a leaf-shaped blade at one end and a rectangular blade at the other
Voted for by: Jim Hart, Guerri Stevens
FROM Millie Morgan who voted 4 and *9*, and scores 2 + 2 = 4*

18: Xystus: a musical instrument used in the worship of Isis; played like a violin by scraping the strings [Grk _zustros_ scraper]
Voted for by nobody
FROM Johnny Barrs who voted 3 and *9*, and scores 0 + 2 = 2*

19: a prearranged code term consistently substituted for a particular word or phrase in an otherwise plain-language confidential communication
Voted for by: Tim Lodge, Dan Widdis
FROM Dodi Schultz who voted 6 and 7, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

20: an ancient device which measured time by marking the regulated flow of water through a small opening, less accurately than the later clepsydra
Voted for by: Chris Carson
FROM Scott Crom who voted *9* and 13, and scores 1 + 2 = 3*






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[Christopher Carson]

We would seem to already have a deal in progress since Millie posted a word last night. Starting the deal over would seem to create more confusion than it's worth - although Millie may disagree.

Besides, I'm not a fan of seeing someone ascend to the deal through dealer points. That would defeat the pupose of DPs, making them a double penalty to an innocent victim rather than the original idea of being a compensation for a dealer error. I don't think they were ever intended to have that sort of result. Normally, they're awarded when a dealer error causes someone to receive no points at all. Personally, I don't give dealer points to a player who has gotten a 'normal' number of votes on his own.

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: France International
To: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixonary] XYSTER -- further correction


Dick,

Don't you think that's kind of cruel to give Tim 1 DP to make him the dealer?

Mike

[EnDash@aol.com]

O didn't realize that that would be the effect, and I don't think Millie's
deal should be taken away from her. I did feel I owed something to Tim for
omitting his votes, and that's why I awarded the point to add to his
rolling score.

-- Dick


In a message dated 11/18/2009 12:43:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
clcarson (AT) live (DOT) com writes:

Dick,

Don't you think that's kind of cruel to give Tim 1 DP to make him the
dealer?

Mike

[Dave Cunningham]

Tim Bourne voted -- the scores should be emended to reflect his votes
(also correct trolling scores)

Dave

On Nov 18, 9:13*am, EnD... (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
> That gave me a clue where to look; and, sure enough, Dan voted for 16 and *
> 19 -- not 16 and 17. Corrected below, and I have no idea how I let these
> errors *creep in.
>
> In a message dated 11/18/2009 12:34:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, *
>
> schu... (AT) compuserve (DOT) com writes:
> Millie Morgan wrote:
> > I thought I might be off the hook *there for a moment, as I
> > believe I only scored 4 points (I don't think *Dan did actually
> > vote for my No.17)
>
> Ah. I think his was the *other vote for my #19. (Doesn't change
> the overall *result.)
>
> --Dodi
>
> And the next deal is for Tim Bourne with 4 natural *points
>
> *1: a ganglion
> Voted for by: Nancy *Shepherdson
> FROM Tim Lodge who voted *9* and 19, and scores 1 + 2 = *3*
>
> *2: a timekeeper
> Voted for by nobody
> FROM Toni *Savage who didn't vote, and scores 0 + 0 = 0
>
> *3: a surgical clamp
> Voted for by: Johnny Barrs, Nancy *Shepherdson, Russ Heimerson
> FROM Tim Bourne who didn't vote, and scores *1dp + 3 + 0 = 4
>
> *4: an acolyte of Zoroastrianism
> Voted for by: Millie *Morgan
> FROM Nancy Shepherdson who voted 1 and 3, and scores 1 + 0 = *1
>
> *5: a professional jester or minstrel
> Voted for by: *Dave Cunningham
> FROM Russ Heimerson who voted 3 and *9*, and scores 1 + *2 = 3*
>
> *6: _obs._ * a *joiner or *cabinetmaker
> Voted for by: Mike Shefler, Dodi Schultz
> FROM *Dave Cunningham who voted 5 and 11, and scores 2 + 0 = 2
>
> *7: a tropical dodder of Central America
> Voted for by: *Jim Hart, Dodi Schultz
> FROM Tony Abell who voted 12 and 15, and scores *2 + 0 = 2
>
> *8: someone in the grip of inner conflict
> Voted for by *nobody
> FROM Judy Madnick who didn't vote, and scores 0 + 0 = *0
>
> *9: a surgical instrument for scraping bones
> Voted for *by: *Paul Keating, Tim Lodge, Johnny Barrs, Mike Shefler, Millie
> Morgan, *Scott Crom, Guerri Stevens, Russ Heimerson
> FROM AHD4 which can't vote, *and scores D8
>
> 10: [Gk.] a runner used to carry messages in battle
> Voted *for by nobody
> FROM Mike Shefler who voted 6 and *9*, and scores 0 + 2 = *2*
>
> 11: a plaited doughnut deep-fried and soaked in syrup
> Voted *for by: Dave Cunningham
> FROM Chris Carson who voted 15 and 20, and *scores 1 + 0 = 1
>
> 12: an old woman, especially one who is considered *ugly
> Voted for by: Tony Abell
> FROM Dan Widdis who voted 16 and *19, and scores 1 + 0 = 1
>
> 13: a confidence artist whose specialty is switching *packages
> Voted for by: Scott Crom
> FROM Chuck Emery who didn't *vote, and scores 1 + 0 = 1
>
> 14: one who is out-of-touch with reality or unwilling to accept *reality
> Voted for by nobody
> FROM Guerri Stevens who voted *9* *and 17, and scores 0 + 2 = 2*
>
> 15: any of several varieties of South American sunflower, esp. those *of
> the subfamily Mutisioideae
> Voted for by: Chris Carson, Tony *Abell
> FROM Jim Hart who voted 7 and 17, and scores 2 + 0 = *2
>
> 16: one who frequents churches for a living; as, a beggar or seller *of
> candles [Gk. _xustos_ portico]
> Voted for by: *Paul Keating, Dan *Widdis
> FROM *Paul Keating who voted *9* and (16), and scores 1 + 2 *= 3*
>
> 17: a slender archaeological trowel, having a leaf-shaped blade at *one end
> and a rectangular blade at the other
> Voted for by: Jim Hart, *Guerri Stevens
> FROM Millie Morgan who voted 4 and *9*, and scores 2 + 2 *= 4*
>
> 18: Xystus: a musical instrument used in the worship of Isis; played *like
> a violin by scraping the strings [Grk _zustros_ scraper]
> Voted for *by nobody
> FROM Johnny Barrs who voted 3 and *9*, and scores 0 + 2 = *2*
>
> 19: a prearranged code term consistently substituted for a *particular *
> word or phrase in an otherwise plain-language *confidential *communication
> Voted for by: Tim Lodge, Dan *Widdis
> FROM Dodi Schultz who voted 6 and 7, and scores 2 + 0 = *2
>
> 20: an ancient device which measured time by marking the regulated *flow of
> water through a small opening, less accurately than the later *clepsydra
> Voted for by: Chris Carson
> FROM Scott Crom who voted **9* and 13, and scores 1 + 2 = 3*

[France International]

The trolling scores have been corrected by the local ogre.

--Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Cunningham" <cunn5393 (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net>
To: "Dixonary" <dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:39 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: XYSTER -- further correction


> Tim Bourne voted -- the scores should be emended to reflect his votes
> (also correct trolling scores)
>
> Dave
>
> On Nov 18, 9:13 am, EnD... (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
>> That gave me a clue where to look; and, sure enough, Dan voted for 16 and
>> 19 -- not 16 and 17. Corrected below, and I have no idea how I let these
>> errors creep in.
>>
>> In a message dated 11/18/2009 12:34:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>
>> schu... (AT) compuserve (DOT) com writes:
>> Millie Morgan wrote:
>> > I thought I might be off the hook there for a moment, as I
>> > believe I only scored 4 points (I don't think Dan did actually
>> > vote for my No.17)
>>
>> Ah. I think his was the other vote for my #19. (Doesn't change
>> the overall result.)
>>
>> --Dodi
>>
>> And the next deal is for Tim Bourne with 4 natural points
>>
>> 1: a ganglion
>> Voted for by: Nancy Shepherdson
>> FROM Tim Lodge who voted *9* and 19, and scores 1 + 2 = 3*
>>
>> 2: a timekeeper
>> Voted for by nobody
>> FROM Toni Savage who didn't vote, and scores 0 + 0 = 0
>>
>> 3: a surgical clamp
>> Voted for by: Johnny Barrs, Nancy Shepherdson, Russ Heimerson
>> FROM Tim Bourne who didn't vote, and scores 1dp + 3 + 0 = 4
>>
>> 4: an acolyte of Zoroastrianism
>> Voted for by: Millie Morgan
>> FROM Nancy Shepherdson who voted 1 and 3, and scores 1 + 0 = 1
>>
>> 5: a professional jester or minstrel
>> Voted for by: Dave Cunningham
>> FROM Russ Heimerson who voted 3 and *9*, and scores 1 + 2 = 3*
>>
>> 6: _obs._ a joiner or cabinetmaker
>> Voted for by: Mike Shefler, Dodi Schultz
>> FROM Dave Cunningham who voted 5 and 11, and scores 2 + 0 = 2
>>
>> 7: a tropical dodder of Central America
>> Voted for by: Jim Hart, Dodi Schultz
>> FROM Tony Abell who voted 12 and 15, and scores 2 + 0 = 2
>>
>> 8: someone in the grip of inner conflict
>> Voted for by nobody
>> FROM Judy Madnick who didn't vote, and scores 0 + 0 = 0
>>
>> 9: a surgical instrument for scraping bones
>> Voted for by: Paul Keating, Tim Lodge, Johnny Barrs, Mike Shefler, Millie
>> Morgan, Scott Crom, Guerri Stevens, Russ Heimerson
>> FROM AHD4 which can't vote, and scores D8
>>
>> 10: [Gk.] a runner used to carry messages in battle
>> Voted for by nobody
>> FROM Mike Shefler who voted 6 and *9*, and scores 0 + 2 = 2*
>>
>> 11: a plaited doughnut deep-fried and soaked in syrup
>> Voted for by: Dave Cunningham
>> FROM Chris Carson who voted 15 and 20, and scores 1 + 0 = 1
>>
>> 12: an old woman, especially one who is considered ugly
>> Voted for by: Tony Abell
>> FROM Dan Widdis who voted 16 and 19, and scores 1 + 0 = 1
>>
>> 13: a confidence artist whose specialty is switching packages
>> Voted for by: Scott Crom
>> FROM Chuck Emery who didn't vote, and scores 1 + 0 = 1
>>
>> 14: one who is out-of-touch with reality or unwilling to accept reality
>> Voted for by nobody
>> FROM Guerri Stevens who voted *9* and 17, and scores 0 + 2 = 2*
>>
>> 15: any of several varieties of South American sunflower, esp. those of
>> the subfamily Mutisioideae
>> Voted for by: Chris Carson, Tony Abell
>> FROM Jim Hart who voted 7 and 17, and scores 2 + 0 = 2
>>
>> 16: one who frequents churches for a living; as, a beggar or seller of
>> candles [Gk. _xustos_ portico]
>> Voted for by: Paul Keating, Dan Widdis
>> FROM Paul Keating who voted *9* and (16), and scores 1 + 2 = 3*
>>
>> 17: a slender archaeological trowel, having a leaf-shaped blade at one
>> end
>> and a rectangular blade at the other
>> Voted for by: Jim Hart, Guerri Stevens
>> FROM Millie Morgan who voted 4 and *9*, and scores 2 + 2 = 4*
>>
>> 18: Xystus: a musical instrument used in the worship of Isis; played like
>> a violin by scraping the strings [Grk _zustros_ scraper]
>> Voted for by nobody
>> FROM Johnny Barrs who voted 3 and *9*, and scores 0 + 2 = 2*
>>
>> 19: a prearranged code term consistently substituted for a particular
>> word or phrase in an otherwise plain-language confidential communication
>> Voted for by: Tim Lodge, Dan Widdis
>> FROM Dodi Schultz who voted 6 and 7, and scores 2 + 0 = 2
>>
>> 20: an ancient device which measured time by marking the regulated flow
>> of
>> water through a small opening, less accurately than the later clepsydra
>> Voted for by: Chris Carson
>> FROM Scott Crom who voted *9* and 13, and scores 1 + 2 = 3*
>


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[Paul Keating]

Were commonsense not enough, I believe we have adeqate precedent, most
recently from round 1744, to support Chris's view that late-posted points
don't affect determination of the new dealer.

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Carson

We would seem to already have a deal in progress since Millie posted a word
last night. Starting the deal over would seem to create more confusion than
it's worth - although Millie may disagree.