[Dixonary] CWM 1631 Results!!

[Dodi Schultz]

Chris writes,

>> My CD version of the American Heritage Dictionary gives:
>>
>> cwm n. See cirque [Welsh] valley
>>
>> Under the cirque there's a rather geological definition: "A steep
>> bowl-shaped hollow occurring at the upper end of a mountain valley,
>> especially one forming the head of a glacier or stream. Also called
>> cwm."
>>
>> A second definition is "A ring; a circle."

Evidently not based on the current (4th) edition, which expands on that
slightly: "Cwm n. See cirque (sense 1). [Welsh, valley]"

Note that the "valley" is now inside the brackets, which says that's what
it means in *Welsh*.

The two numbered defs for *cirque* in AHD4 are exactly as you've quoted
above. Yes, the word's from the Latin *circus*, circle, which was the name
of the place the Roman did fun stuff like race chariots and watch
gladiators fight to the death.

--DS

[Chris Carson]

Actually the Help (About) says AHD 4th Edition, (c) 2000. Maybe the
electronic version differs from the print.


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Subject: [Dixonary] CWM 1631 Results!!


>
> Chris writes,
>
> >> My CD version of the American Heritage Dictionary gives:
> >>
> >> cwm n. See cirque [Welsh] valley
> >>
> >> Under the cirque there's a rather geological definition: "A steep
> >> bowl-shaped hollow occurring at the upper end of a mountain valley,
> >> especially one forming the head of a glacier or stream. Also called
> >> cwm."
> >>
> >> A second definition is "A ring; a circle."
>
> Evidently not based on the current (4th) edition, which expands on that
> slightly: "Cwm n. See cirque (sense 1). [Welsh, valley]"
>
> Note that the "valley" is now inside the brackets, which says that's what
> it means in *Welsh*.
>
> The two numbered defs for *cirque* in AHD4 are exactly as you've quoted
> above. Yes, the word's from the Latin *circus*, circle, which was the name
> of the place the Roman did fun stuff like race chariots and watch
> gladiators fight to the death.
>
> --DS
>
>
>
>

[Judy Madnick]

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From: "Paul Keating" <coryphaeus (AT) prodigycomputing (DOT) com>
Subject: Re: [Dixonary] CWM 1631 Results!!

<< That is why I generally cross-check against a range of dictionaries to
<< make sure that I don't do this accidentally.

I often get a word from the Web, and some of those dictionaries are unusual to say the least. <G> So I do a search to be sure that the definition is fairly common among dictionaries and there aren't any really weird obscure definitions.

Judy Madnick
Albany, NY

[Paul Keating]

When you have an hour to spare, have a look at some of the dictionaries
in the Links section of the Coryphæus group, at

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/coryphaeus/links/Dictionaries_001102847656

If you have any additions to make, do!

Judy Madnick wrote:

>I often get a word from the Web, and some of those dictionaries are unusual to say the least. <G>
>

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Paul Keating
The Hague
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[Judy Madnick]

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Paul Keating" <coryphaeus (AT) prodigycomputing (DOT) com>
Subject: Re: [Dixonary] CWM 1631 Results!!

<< http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/coryphaeus/links/Dictionaries_001102847656

Great link!

Is http://phrontistery.info/ihlstart.html acceptable as a source? (I like the alpha list in particular.) When I use this list, I always check the word in "dictionaries" also, primarily to see whether there are multiple definitions for a word. I guess if I'm checking other sources, it becomes "acceptable." <G>

Judy Madnick
Albany, NY

[Paul Keating]

Thanks for the link. I've put it on the group page.

As for whether it's acceptable as a source, I feel a bit nervous about
beginning a sentence in this group thus, but...

The rules say "any accepted dictionary" without providing a list of
accepted dictionaries or even indicating who is to do the accepting.
And, of course, it was written 15 years ago when there were no such
things as online dictionaries.

If one is going to be legalistic about it the phrase is void for vagueness.

I personally read "any accepted dictionary" as "any trustworthy source",
meaning that if one has doubts about the completeness or accuracy or
scholarship of the source then some cross-checking is in order.

Which is pretty well what you've been saying, too.

>Is http://phrontistery.info/ihlstart.html acceptable as a source?
>
>
>

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Paul Keating
The Hague
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