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Judy Madnick
July 28th, 2009, 11:22 AM
Well, Cory has decided not to cooperate. First I saw duplicate results...and then the program crashed. I am no longer able to open it to enter votes. I will download the newer version -- don't know whether the data will be gone. So please bear with me in case this takes longer than expected.

This didn't occur the last time I dealt; I have no idea what went wrong. <sigh>

Judy

Christopher Carson
July 28th, 2009, 11:59 AM
Judy,

You can also copy clean copies of the SCORES.* files into the Cory folder
and get the function back. That's what I ended up doing.

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Madnick" <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] Scoring problems <sigh>


>
>
> Well, Cory has decided not to cooperate. First I saw duplicate
> results...and then the program crashed. I am no longer able to open it to
> enter votes. I will download the newer version -- don't know whether the
> data will be gone. So please bear with me in case this takes longer than
> expected.
>
> This didn't occur the last time I dealt; I have no idea what went wrong.
> <sigh>
>
> Judy
>

Daniel B. Widdis
July 28th, 2009, 12:54 PM
Ditto that. Just download the "fresh" DB from the yahoo site and copy all
those SCORES files over.

Repeat as necessary. (had to do it 3 or 4 times during the last deal.)

Whatever DB buglet Cory has on Vista is only a minor annoyance once you
actually have all the defs in.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com [mailto:Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Carson
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:00 AM
To: Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Scoring problems <sigh>


Judy,

You can also copy clean copies of the SCORES.* files into the Cory folder
and get the function back. That's what I ended up doing.

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Madnick" <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] Scoring problems <sigh>


>
>
> Well, Cory has decided not to cooperate. First I saw duplicate
> results...and then the program crashed. I am no longer able to open it to
> enter votes. I will download the newer version -- don't know whether the
> data will be gone. So please bear with me in case this takes longer than
> expected.
>
> This didn't occur the last time I dealt; I have no idea what went wrong.
> <sigh>
>
> Judy
>

Judy Madnick
July 28th, 2009, 03:08 PM
<< You can also copy clean copies of the SCORES.* files into the
<< Cory folder
<< and get the function back. That's what I ended up doing.

Um, where would I find these scores.* files? They're not coming up in a search.

Judy

Judy Madnick
July 28th, 2009, 03:13 PM
<< You can also copy clean copies of the SCORES.* files into the
<< Cory folder
<< and get the function back. That's what I ended up doing.

I'm wondering -- is that generated only if you're using all the automated "stuff" in Cory? I'm using the "copy and paste" method, so perhaps I don't have these SCORES.* files.

Color me aggravated. I don't understand why it worked so well last deal and fell apart this deal. Had I realized that might happen, I would have downloaded the new version sooner. I don't know whether it would be easier to do this by hand or reenter everything. <sigh>

Judy

Paul Keating
July 28th, 2009, 03:28 PM
You really do have those scores.* files. That is what you see on the Scores
tab. On Vista the files will be in in %userprofile%\coryphæus4. Explorer
will take you there if you paste that into its address bar. Or search for
scores.* on your C: drive and you will find them soon enough. Then overcopy
them with empty ones. It's a tourniquet: a drastic and temporary solution
that needs to be renewed regularly.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Madnick" <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> I'm wondering -- is that generated only if you're using all the automated
"stuff" in Cory? I'm using the "copy and paste" method, so
> perhaps I don't have these SCORES.* files.

Paul Keating
July 28th, 2009, 03:31 PM
.... and you're not finding them because they are actually called score.* not
scores.*

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

>
> Um, where would I find these scores.* files? They're not coming up in a
search.
>
> Judy

Judy Madnick
July 28th, 2009, 03:32 PM
I just reentered everything.

Judy

Paul Keating
July 28th, 2009, 03:37 PM
Okay, but that's no guarantee that the problem won't come back. If it does,
overcopying the score.* files will fix it at least temporarily and you don't
need to recapture anything.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Madnick" <jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com>


> I just reentered everything.

Daniel B. Widdis
July 28th, 2009, 04:36 PM
MS> Froma's autodealer ... works on all versions of Windows through XP.

Autodealer and Dixomatic are 16-bit applications. They run on 32-bit
Windows platforms including XP and Vista (32-bit).

Unfortunately, I have (and think Judy does also) 64-bit Vista, which does
not run either old program, and apparently has severe issues with the
Borland Database Engine behind Cory.

Dan

Daniel B. Widdis
July 28th, 2009, 04:37 PM
JM> Um, where would I find these scores.* files?

Yourname / coryphaues4 are the "current" ones.

There's a blank database on the yahoo group for blank ones to overwrite them
with.

Dan

Dodi Schultz
July 28th, 2009, 11:10 PM
> Judy, I've been using Froma's autodealer since the first time I
> dealt in round 179. It works on all versions of Windows through XP.
> I don't know about Vista, though.
>
> Mike

Second that. AutoDealer is a simple program that is totally
controllable by you, except it takes over for formatting postings and
performing calculations.

--Dodi

Judy Madnick
July 29th, 2009, 07:11 AM
From: "Dodi Schultz" <schultz (AT) compuserve (DOT) com>

<< Second that. AutoDealer is a simple program that is totally
<< controllable by you, except it takes over for formatting postings
<< and
<< performing calculations.

I'm so used to Cory that I have no desire to change...even though I don't even use all its great features! This is just a little bump in the road...and fortunately I save all definitions and votes until the round is over, so it didn't take as long as I thought it might to reenter the information.

Judy

Paul Keating
July 29th, 2009, 11:27 AM
I can't really blame the BDE for this. Not directly anyway. It's just that
the application used to issue a host of BDE queries when you changed from
one tab to the other. And the reason there were so many had to do with the
fairly advanced age of the application. New features kept on getting added.

On the older platforms you could rely on those queries executing in a
particular order, even though that order isn't specified. It appears that
you can't rely on it anymore.

It's discouraging to have to rush to rewrite code that has worked pretty
well for 10 years. On the bright side: as a result, the .exe that was
published 6 weeks ago is actually smaller than it used to be. Only slightly,
but even so.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

----- Original Message -----
From: "France International" <stamps (AT) salsgiver (DOT) com>
To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:48 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Scoring problems <sigh>



> I wonder if Windows 7 will have issues with the BDE. If so, I'll have to
keep using XP.

Christopher Carson
July 30th, 2009, 07:58 AM
Remember the kick of working out a new way to code an algorithm that was 3
bytes smaller than the old way?

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "France International" <stamps (AT) salsgiver (DOT) com>
To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:45 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Scoring problems <sigh>


>
> Back in the ancient days, programmers' forums were the only place you
> could find men boasting how small theirs was.
>
> --Mike
>

John Barrs
July 30th, 2009, 08:25 AM
Chris

I remember the joy of finding out that I could write code that lived in the
loader segment of a program on a mainframe so that a null program which had
a loader of 722 bytes was indistinguishable from our program. It had to
written in octal of course. I fooled the operators by using the 'spare'
bytes in the loader to change the program name every time it was accessed so
that they could never get rid of it. (It was only a game until someone else
in whom I had confided also claimed another K each time the name changed and
gobbled up the memory - after all a mainframe only had about 90K available
in those days)

JohnnyB

>
>
> Remember the kick of working out a new way to code an
> algorithm that was 3 bytes smaller than the old way?
>
> Chris
>

Paul Keating
October 27th, 2009, 08:07 AM
John,

I'm going to be offline for the rest of this round. Please act as proxy and
cast my votes for the 3rd and 3rd-last defs in the list.

Regards

--
Paul Keating
The Hague