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Dave Cunningham
July 30th, 2005, 07:12 AM
Chuck Emery is clearly the next dealer with five points --- with Tony Abell the winner with 3 natural points.

1. acronym for Central Western Mexico. [Madnick] 3 10 nil

2. [Welsh] 1. dog 2. an Englishman [considered disparaging] [Abell] 6 18 (Schultz) (Mayer) (Lodge) 3

3. seaweed fried as a breakfast food, popular in Wales. [Lodge] 2 14 (Madnick) 1

4. conceited willful manipulator [Scott] 13 17 (Savage) 1

5. [Welsh] An adult woman with the looks of an adolescent girl [Kornelis] 6 13 nil

6. [Welsh] of, as in William of Orange. [Emery] NV (Shepherdson) (Kornelis) (Carson) (Stevens) (Abell) 5!!

7. alto flute [orig. Welsh]. [Shepherdson] 6 11 (Goran)

8. cirque [Welsh] [RHD] NV

9. Communist Workers Movement, a forerunner of Industrial Workers of the World. [Crom] 12 17 nil

10. Combined Washing Machine, an early acronym for a machine combining the functions of washing and spinning [Bourne] DQ (Madnick) 1

11. The centimeter-gram-second unit of work equal to the work done by a force of one dyne acting over a distance of one centimeter. [Goran] 7 14 (Shepherdson) (Stevens) 2

12. A temporary sheep-fold made from local vegetation, primarily brambles and gorse. [Hirst] DQ (Crom) 1

13. [Welsh] Old. [Stevens] 6 11 (Kornelis) (Carson) (Scott) 3

14. An ancient Welsh weaving pattern, often found in blankets. [Savage] 4 19?? (Goran) (Lodge) 2

15. a small fishing vessel of the Hebrides with a folding mast. [Shefler] DQ nil

16. [Welsh] A singing contest. [Carson] 6 13 (Mayer) 1

17. [Welsh] Crossroads. [Schultz] 2 18 (Scott) (Crom) 2

18. to wipe; to cleanse. [Heimerson] NV (Schultz) (Abell) 2

Mayer 2 16

Dan Wddis had email problems -- so 1 dealer point for Dan as well. (He would like to be marked as DQ -- though I am unsure why)

The def several claimed it was as a DQ was "[Welsh] a valley" ... but the actual def is a lot weirder! I mean, who ever heard of one word having an equally strange one word definition?

Dave
DQ, DF

Dave Cunningham
July 30th, 2005, 11:54 AM
Well -- Random House did <g>.

Tim Bourne
July 30th, 2005, 12:25 PM
In article <Dave.Cunningham.1szj7c (AT) no-mx (DOT) www.tapcis.com/forums>, Dave
Cunningham wrote:
> The def several claimed it was as a DQ was "[Welsh] a valley" ... but
> the actual def is a lot weirder! I mean, who ever heard of one word
> having an equally strange one word definition?
>
Yes, that's a strange definition. In practice it's used much more widely
to mean valley, as I said; for example, in the well known hymn tune Cwm
Rhondda (Guide me ...). I have the advantage (or in this case
disadvantage) of having a Welsh "daughter-in-law-elect", so I'm picking
up bits of Welsh, but I already know quite a lot from investigating the
origin of various place names. I think cirque is a word used mainly by
geologists; I don't have a dictionary handy, but I doubt if most would
give such a restricted definition for cwm.

Tim B

Tony Abell
July 30th, 2005, 01:40 PM
On 2005-07-30 at 13:25 Tim Bourne wrote:

TB> I think cirque is a word used mainly by geologists; I don't have a
TB> dictionary handy, but I doubt if most would give such a restricted
TB> definition for cwm.

Just to add further confusion (or perhaps clear up confusion), my
trust old M-W Collegiate indicates that cwm means valley in Welsh, but
the English meaning is cirque, the geological formation. So the Welsh
and English meanings are not exactly the same.

Hugo Kornelis
July 30th, 2005, 02:20 PM
Hi Dave,

> 8. cirque [Welsh] [RHD] NV

Congratulations on your D0!! Isn't that the best way to celebrate your 100th
deal?

Best, Hugo

Chris Carson
July 30th, 2005, 04:15 PM
My CD version of the American Heritage Dictionary gives:

cwm n. See cirque [Welsh] valley

Under the cirque there's a rather geological definition: "A steep
bowl-shaped hollow occurring at the upper end of a mountain valley,
especially one forming the head of a glacier or stream. Also called cwm."

A second definition is "A ring; a circle."

And the entymology is Latin from circus. Interesting.

Chris


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Bourne"

> I don't have a dictionary handy, but I doubt if most would
> give such a restricted definition for cwm.
>

Chris Carson
July 30th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Very nice D0, Dave. My eye paused on the cirque definition but then moved
on to other Welsh possibilities.

Chris

Dave Cunningham
July 30th, 2005, 04:51 PM
Gosh yes!! And no one who DQed said "cirque" <g>. Thanks!

Dave

Paul Keating
July 31st, 2005, 02:25 AM
Well, since cirque can mean a kind of a valley, they were in a sense
right to DQ.

>The def several claimed it was as a DQ was "[Welsh] a valley" ... but
>the actual def is a lot weirder!
>
>

--
Paul Keating
The Hague
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Chuck Emery
July 31st, 2005, 11:51 PM
Argh!

Just got the wonderful news. I'm traveling, of course. I picked this up in
a hallway at the Los Angeles Convention Center, where I'll be attending
SIGGRAPH 2005 for the next few days. Then couldn't find a SMTP server with
which to send a reply. So I'm at my parent's house using dial-up and
getting a word ready. I'll check the incoming first to see if you've
already passed my by for the deal, and if not I'll have a new word up within
30 minutes or so.

Thanks,

Chuck