[Dixonary] [OT] 64-bit dealing software

[Daniel B. Widdis]

I don't know if this is off-topic or not.



We previously had an OT discussion about new 64-bit operating systems and
software compatibility. At that time the only problem I had (since
rectified) was Cisco's VPN software.



But now I'm running into the problem with the game. Neither AutoDealer nor
Dixomatic will even run on a 64-bit OS. Coryphaeus runs, but any attempt to
save and reopen data mid-round fails, probably due to the Borland Database
Engine not playing nice with 64-bit (although I'm sure Paul can figure out a
more technical explanation).



So I may just have to deal this round manually. Either that, or never close
Coryphaeus during the round..



Any other alternatives?



Dan

[Judy Madnick]

<< Coryphaeus runs, but
<< any attempt to
<< save and reopen data mid-round fails, probably due to the
<< Borland Database
<< Engine not playing nice with 64-bit (although I'm sure Paul can
<< figure out a
<< more technical explanation).

My new laptop is a 64-bit also, and I was able to handle the whole round with Cory. I had some little issues (I use the clipboard, which Cory doesn't seem to prefer), but everything worked out.

<< So I may just have to deal this round manually. Either that, or
<< never close
<< Coryphaeus during the round..

Well, if you generally leave your computer running... <G>

Hope it works out for you!

Judy

[Guerri Stevens]

GuerriI hate to admit that I don't know whether my system is 64 bit or
not. I
am running Vista Home Premium (or is it Premium Home?). Dixomatic works
fine for me. I don't remember having to do anything special to make it work.

Daniel B. Widdis wrote:
> ...
> But now I'm running into the problem with the game. Neither AutoDealer nor
> Dixomatic will even run on a 64-bit OS. Coryphaeus runs, but any attempt to
> save and reopen data mid-round fails, probably due to the Borland Database
> Engine not playing nice with 64-bit (although I'm sure Paul can figure out a
> more technical explanation).
>
>
>
> So I may just have to deal this round manually. Either that, or never close
> Coryphaeus during the round..
>
>
>
> Any other alternatives?
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>

[Daniel B. Widdis]

GS> I don't know whether my system is 64 bit or not.

If Dixomatic (or any program that worked on Windows 3.1) works, you probably
have the 32 bit version.

Actually, Dixomatic might work. The installer doesn't. :)

64-bit software can access more memory than 32-bit, which in theory can make
some of it run faster. Of course, the main software I would use for this
feature would be browsers (IE8 and Firefox have 64-bit builds). But Adobe
still hasn't updated their flash player to work with these, rendering them
mostly useless for a lot of websites.

Dan

[Christopher Carson]

Dan,

I successfully managed a deal with Cory running under 64-bit Vista. The first part of the round was a little tricky in that after editing and saving defs, I had to copy a clean set of SCORE.* files into the database. As far as I could tell, it was only the score records that were affected. After posting the defs, things ran fine for the scoring phase. I believe Paul is working on the record duplication problem that crops up when you edit and save a def or defs. I don't actually think it's the Borland engine but is something in the code, probably related to the intial glitch where the data files were written in the wrong place.

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel B. Widdis
To: Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 4:51 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] [OT] 64-bit dealing software


I don't know if this is off-topic or not.



We previously had an OT discussion about new 64-bit operating systems and software compatibility. At that time the only problem I had (since rectified) was Cisco's VPN software.



But now I'm running into the problem with the game. Neither AutoDealer nor Dixomatic will even run on a 64-bit OS. Coryphaeus runs, but any attempt to save and reopen data mid-round fails, probably due to the Borland Database Engine not playing nice with 64-bit (although I'm sure Paul can figure out a more technical explanation).



So I may just have to deal this round manually. Either that, or never close Coryphaeus during the round..



Any other alternatives?



Dan

[Daniel B. Widdis]

CC> I had to copy a clean set of SCORE.* files into the database



Thanks for that hint. I'd been restoring the entire (blank) database and
starting from scratch each time. I'll try just the score files since that
seems to be the problem.



The duplication problem is, apparently, unpredictable. I got the first 11
defs in without issue but the last 4 I read in produced duplicates with the
same step. I was still able to post the defs but I'll have to go back and
restore something at some point to use Cory to score. Or score manually.



Dan

[Christopher Carson]

'Refreshing' the SCORE.* files worked for me. That was the only thing I had to do. After the scoring phase started there were no further problems and the scoring function worked correctly.

I did some abbreviated testing by recreating the round and found that all I had to do was import the defs (I was using the MAPI method. Judy was using clipboard and I don't think she had the duplication issues.) and edit them to generate the duplicate records. I was a strange glitch and hopefully Paul will get it worked out. When I first installed Cory under Vista 64 it didn't run at all due to the database files being copied where Cory wasn't looking but that was easy to fix. In may case the duplicate score records hosed the database index which prevented Cory from loading at all after a duplication incident. It was definitely strange. Paul actually came up with the hint on the SCORE files. It made things a lot easier since it left the definitions and messages intact.

Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel B. Widdis
To: Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 4:52 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: [OT] 64-bit dealing software


CC> I had to copy a clean set of SCORE.* files into the database



Thanks for that hint. I'd been restoring the entire (blank) database and starting from scratch each time. I'll try just the score files since that seems to be the problem.



The duplication problem is, apparently, unpredictable. I got the first 11 defs in without issue but the last 4 I read in produced duplicates with the same step. I was still able to post the defs but I'll have to go back and restore something at some point to use Cory to score. Or score manually.



Dan

[Daniel B. Widdis]

CC> 'Refreshing' the SCORE.* files worked for me



And me too! Thanks!



Dan

[Judy Madnick]

From: "Christopher Carson" <christopherlanecarson (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

<< Judy was using clipboard and I don't think she
<< had the duplication issues.)

Yes, I used the cllipboard and no, I didn't have any duplication problems. But I did have issues when I tried to add an email address and attempted to delete a player so that I could add him with a new email address (since I couldn't edit the current address).

If I were dealing more often I would probably attempt to use MAPI. But I wouldn't remember what to do because I haven't been "fortunate" enough to deal often. <G>

Judy

[Daniel B. Widdis]

CC> Judy was using clipboard and I don't think she
CC> had the duplication issues.)

JM> I did have issues when I tried to add an email address
JM> and attempted to delete a player

What problems there are seem to be unpredictable. Paul mentioned something
to me in email about a "race condition" which I assume means two program
threads try to do the same thing, and one of them might happen to win every
once in a while when the other one should.

Had I read in the definitions via IMAP I might have had better success. I
read them in via MAPI (from my Outlook Inbox) which appends a "smtp:" prefix
to everyone's email address, resulting in numerous new DB entries.
Unfortunately, Cory can't read votes via MAPI (all votes appear to come from
the dixonary group) so I have to use IMAP for that, and that has resulted in
"new players" which the software can't seem to sort out properly... again,
probably the same or similar "race condition".

I've been adding votes by hand, which has worked 80% of the time, and the
20% of the time it didn't work has been fixed by "refreshing" the SCORES.*
files. So I'll be able to finish the round with only a minimal bit of
manual manipulation. Much better than dealing by hand, but still not ideal.

I just pre-ordered the Windows 7 upgrade today. Perhaps when I upgrade I'll
do the 32-bit version. The only 64-bit software I'd really like to use is
a browser, and I won't do that until Adobe makes Flash 64-bit (and I'm not
holding my breath).

Dan

[Guerri Stevens]

Installer? I don't remember running an installer. I thought I just
unpacked the ZIP file.

Guerri

Daniel B. Widdis wrote:
> Actually, Dixomatic might work. The installer doesn't. :)
>