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Dodi Schultz
May 15th, 2009, 06:29 PM
Interesting: Millie's vote came through here only as a binary attachment.
Millie, did you send that message differently than usual? When I fetched it
and looked, I didn't find any odd characters or anything in it.

--Dodi

Millie
May 15th, 2009, 07:24 PM
Being a bit of a novice, I could easily have done something odd Dodi, but I actually can't think of anything
... I wonder if it arrived that way for everybody (?)
As far as I can recall, I just hit "Reply" to Jim's 15/5 Defs, modified the Subject line a bit, deleted all but my chosen 2, and sent it off (same as my votes for CEPHEN and FOMA, I think).

Mmmm ... a mystery to be solved ... just as a "need to know" :)

Millie



----- Original Message -----
From: Dodi Schultz
To: Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 9:29 AM
Subject: [Dixonary] Round 2004 RAGULY definitions




Interesting: Millie's vote came through here only as a binary attachment.
Millie, did you send that message differently than usual? When I fetched it
and looked, I didn't find any odd characters or anything in it.

--Dodi

Millie
May 15th, 2009, 07:33 PM
PS
Just had a thought ... probably not relevant, but just before casting my votes (or just after, can't remember) I did edit my Profile on the website, just to make it my full name rather than "milliem".
Can't see why that should affect anything, but ????

Millie
----- Original Message -----
From: Dodi Schultz
To: Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 9:29 AM
Subject: [Dixonary] Round 2004 RAGULY definitions




Interesting: Millie's vote came through here only as a binary attachment.
Millie, did you send that message differently than usual? When I fetched it
and looked, I didn't find any odd characters or anything in it.

--Dodi

Daniel B. Widdis
May 15th, 2009, 07:52 PM
MM> Being a bit of a novice, I could easily have done something odd
MM> ... I wonder if it arrived that way for everybody

You didn't do anything "odd" other than using your client (Outlook Express,
by the looks of the message headers) in its default setting which sends
messages in HTML format. For the vast majority of players who use modern
email clients your message came through just fine.

Dodi still reads her email using TAPCIS, which can't process HTML messages
directly, and it takes her an extra step to go fetch the message. Most of
us have been playing long enough that we've already configured our clients
to send in text only so that they're received by Dodi in a friendly manner.

Usually OE (by default) replies to messages in the same format as they were
sent. Jim's posting of the definitions was plaintext, but you apparently
generated a new message to vote rather than replying.

I think OE allows you to go into your address book and configure to always
send in plaintext to Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com. This should help in the
future, especially if you have the unfortunate luck to have to deal a round.

--
Dan

Millie
May 15th, 2009, 08:34 PM
Brilliant!
Thanks Dan. I hate unsolved mysteries.
I shall go and wrestle with that right away.

Millie
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel B. Widdis
To: Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Round 2004 RAGULY definitions



MM> Being a bit of a novice, I could easily have done something odd
MM> ... I wonder if it arrived that way for everybody

You didn't do anything "odd" other than using your client (Outlook Express,
by the looks of the message headers) in its default setting which sends
messages in HTML format. For the vast majority of players who use modern
email clients your message came through just fine.

Dodi still reads her email using TAPCIS, which can't process HTML messages
directly, and it takes her an extra step to go fetch the message. Most of
us have been playing long enough that we've already configured our clients
to send in text only so that they're received by Dodi in a friendly manner.

Usually OE (by default) replies to messages in the same format as they were
sent. Jim's posting of the definitions was plaintext, but you apparently
generated a new message to vote rather than replying.

I think OE allows you to go into your address book and configure to always
send in plaintext to Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com. This should help in the
future, especially if you have the unfortunate luck to have to deal a round.

--
Dan

Daniel B. Widdis
May 15th, 2009, 08:53 PM
MM> I shall go and wrestle with that right away.

Also see if you can find the setting to reply in the same format as it was
sent. I made sure I sent my reply in plaintext but your reply to me was
HTML again.

--
Dan

Millie
May 15th, 2009, 09:58 PM
Thanks for you input Dan; much appreciated.

I found the appropriate option in OE, and ticked the appropriate box. So
how's this reply? Is it plaintext?
If so, do you think that should have fixed the issue now? (providing I
continue to use "Reply" for future googlegroup messages)

And thanks very much Dodi for your query ... it's always nice to learn
something new.
... I most certainly want to send MY messages in friendly manner too :)

Millie






----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel B. Widdis" <widdis (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Round 2004 RAGULY definitions


>
> MM> I shall go and wrestle with that right away.
>
> Also see if you can find the setting to reply in the same format as it was
> sent. I made sure I sent my reply in plaintext but your reply to me was
> HTML again.
>
> --
> Dan
>

Daniel B. Widdis
May 15th, 2009, 10:19 PM
MM> So how's this reply? Is it plaintext?

It is! Your messages can now be read by pre-Internet clients! :)

--
Dan

Tony Abell
May 15th, 2009, 11:54 PM
Dodi,

The occasion of yet another binary attachment is as good a time as any to ask
what you're going to do now that the CompuServe Classic mail service is about to
be retired.

I know about this because I still have a CompuServe email account. In fact, it's
my oldest and still my main email address. I had to stop using it for Dixonary
because so many mailings kept disappearing without being delivered, which,
strangely, was never a problem for you. Instead, you've been plagued by binary
attachments, which did not bother me, as I'd long since abandoned TAPCIS as my
email client.

Even so, my compuserve.com account is still active, and over the last few weeks
I have received multiple emails warning me of the old mail system's imminent
demise (next Monday, in fact) with instructions on moving my account to a new
system, one much better in every way by any objective measure of usability, but
one which I'm quite sure won't support HMI, streaming ASCII commands or any
other protocol TAPCIS is capable of using. In addition, on 30 June the
CompuServe Classic dial-up nodes will be shut down, but I don't know if you're
still using those, since you could have switched to TAPCIS+COM/IP and another
method of Internet access. So does this mean you will be bidding your adieu to
the game?


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On 2009-05-15 at 19:29 Dodi Schultz wrote:



> Interesting: Millie's vote came through here only as a binary attachment.
> Millie, did you send that message differently than usual? When I fetched it
> and looked, I didn't find any odd characters or anything in it.

> --Dodi

Dodi Schultz
May 15th, 2009, 11:56 PM
>> Just had a thought ... probably not relevant, but just before
>> casting my votes (or just after, can't remember) I did edit my
>> Profile on the website...

I'm sure that had nothing to do with it. And THIS message, BTW, came
through in perfectly normal plaintext.

Guess it was Just One Of Those Inexplicable Things.

--Dodi

Dodi Schultz
May 15th, 2009, 11:56 PM
Dan to Millie:

>> Jim's posting of the definitions was plaintext, but you apparently
>> generated a new message to vote rather than replying.

Dan, Millie said specifically that she did a reply, deleting from Jim's
list all but the two defs she'd chosen.

Anyway: As you may have heard, I don't think I'll be using TAPCIS a whole
lot longer. CompuServe is killing its ISP operation (although it's keeping
its mail service), and I think that will mean I'll need to use a different
e-mail client. (I'll still have the same e-mail address.) I'm counting on
my computer advisor to figure it all out, given that some of CServe's
advisories about what it's about to do are so cryptic as to be downright
self-contradictory.

--Dodi

Dodi Schultz
May 15th, 2009, 11:56 PM
Dan to Millie:

>> Also see if you can find the setting to reply in the same format as
>> it was sent. I made sure I sent my reply in plaintext but your reply
>> to me was HTML again.

Weird. It came through here in plaintext, as all of Millie's messages this
evening have. (They were also trailing attachments, HTML dupes of the same
messages. AOL *always* does that, and it can't be turned off, so I always
see that on Dick Weltz's postings. But it doesn't normally happen with
folks who use gmail--you, Jim, et al. Only Millie.

--Dodi

Dodi Schultz
May 15th, 2009, 11:56 PM
>> I found the appropriate option in OE, and ticked the appropriate
>> box. So how's this reply? Is it plaintext? If so, do you think that
>> should have fixed the issue now? (providing I continue to use
>> "Reply" for future googlegroup messages)
>>
>> And thanks very much Dodi for your query ... it's always nice to
>> learn something new.

Millie, as I said to Dan earlier, all of your messages this evening have
come through in plaintext. The difference with *this* one is that there is
no HTML attachment.

--Dodi

JohnnyB
May 16th, 2009, 04:41 AM
Millie

You said you changed the subject line - that generates a new thread and
ytherefore replies in 'whatever you are set up as' - had you merely
'reply'ed to the message it woul have been in thres defined mode - here,
Jim's posting

JohnnyB

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
> [mailto:Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Millie
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:34 AM
> To: Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
> Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Round 2004 RAGULY definitions
>
> Brilliant!
> Thanks Dan. I hate unsolved mysteries.
> I shall go and wrestle with that right away.
>
> Millie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Daniel B. Widdis <mailto:widdis (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
> To: Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:52 AM
> Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Round 2004 RAGULY definitions
>
>
> MM> Being a bit of a novice, I could easily have done
> something odd
> MM> ... I wonder if it arrived that way for everybody
>
> You didn't do anything "odd" other than using your
> client (Outlook Express,
> by the looks of the message headers) in its default
> setting which sends
> messages in HTML format. For the vast majority of
> players who use modern
> email clients your message came through just fine.
>
> Dodi still reads her email using TAPCIS, which can't
> process HTML messages
> directly, and it takes her an extra step to go fetch
> the message. Most of
> us have been playing long enough that we've already
> configured our clients
> to send in text only so that they're received by Dodi
> in a friendly manner.
>
> Usually OE (by default) replies to messages in the same
> format as they were
> sent. Jim's posting of the definitions was plaintext,
> but you apparently
> generated a new message to vote rather than replying.
>
> I think OE allows you to go into your address book and
> configure to always
> send in plaintext to Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com. This
> should help in the
> future, especially if you have the unfortunate luck to
> have to deal a round.
>
> --
> Dan
>
>
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