[Dixonary] Round 1980-- GRISKIN new word

[chuck@tdi.ca]

Toni -

Ouch! Oh well, at least it came with some points. I'm on a dash out
the door, so I'm throwing this out without checking the history, if
there's any problem on that front I'll be back in 2 hours.


*
**
***
**** GRISKIN
***
**
*

The deadline for defs will be in 21 hours or so, 10:30 PM Eastern time
on Wednesday evening 18th Feb. I may be a little late as I'll be at an
opera that evening.

More formal announcement to follow,

Chuck

[Jim Hart]

Griskin - the apparent dilation of time, esp. at the opera

21 hours would have been a bit rushed but fortunately I think you've
actually given us more - looks like about 39 to me

nad,

Jim



On Feb 17, 11:34*pm, ch... (AT) tdi (DOT) ca wrote:
> Toni -
>
> Ouch! *Oh well, at least it came with some points. *I'm on a dash out
> the door, so I'm throwing this out without checking the history, if
> there's any problem on that front I'll be back in 2 hours.
>
> *
> **
> ***
> **** *GRISKIN
> ***
> **
> *
>
> The deadline for defs will be in 21 hours or so, 10:30 PM Eastern time
> on Wednesday evening 18th Feb. *I may be a little late as I'll be at an
> opera that evening.
>
> More formal announcement to follow,
>
> Chuck

[Guerri Stevens]

GRISKIN was dealt in round 390 by Jon Jacobs.

Guerri

chuck (AT) tdi (DOT) ca wrote:
> Ouch! Oh well, at least it came with some points. I'm on a dash out
> the door, so I'm throwing this out without checking the history, if
> there's any problem on that front I'll be back in 2 hours.
>
> *
> **
> ***
> **** GRISKIN

[Chuck]

That would make it Ouch!!

Also thank you.

New word within the hour, along with my apologies.

Chuck

Guerri Stevens wrote:
>
> GRISKIN was dealt in round 390 by Jon Jacobs.
>
> Guerri
>
> chuck (AT) tdi (DOT) ca wrote:
>> Ouch! Oh well, at least it came with some points. I'm on a dash out
>> the door, so I'm throwing this out without checking the history, if
>> there's any problem on that front I'll be back in 2 hours.
>>
>> *
>> **
>> ***
>> **** GRISKIN
>
>
>

[Dodi Schultz]

GRISKIN was dealt in Round 390, Chuck.

Eagerly awaiting NEW new word!

--Dodi

[Chuck]

The new and improved word for round 1980 is

*************
* *
* S T I R P *
* *
*************


Capitalization is not significant.

Please submit your fake definitions for this word, by
_email_, on or before the deadline, which is 10:30 PM EST on
Wednesday, February 18, 2009, or 7:30 PM PST .

[JohnnyB]

Chuck

What was originally an old word (from the latin) for lineage or forbears now
has a specific meaning - mind you its an odd meaning - it means a line from
one forbear only and has uses in both biology and law - in both cases it is
usually found in the plural but I have seen it in the singular and first met
it in Bacon and had to look it up (countries ruled by the stirps of nobility
are more usually quiet than democracies) and you will probably also hear
it/see it in this year celebrating Darwin's birth - so if anything like
that occurs I am a DQ - I promise not to interfere again!!

For me.

Stirp: a draught of meglethin or mead presented to a hunter as he sets out.


JohnnyB

[France International]

Well, I guess we'll have to have a third word from Chuck now. I was DQ on
stirp also.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "JohnnyB" <johnnybarrs (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:25 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Round 1980 -- STIRP revised new word


>
> Chuck
>
> What was originally an old word (from the latin) for lineage or forbears
now
> has a specific meaning - mind you its an odd meaning - it means a line
from
> one forbear only and has uses in both biology and law - in both cases it
is
> usually found in the plural but I have seen it in the singular and first
met
> it in Bacon and had to look it up (countries ruled by the stirps of
nobility
> are more usually quiet than democracies) and you will probably also hear
> it/see it in this year celebrating Darwin's birth - so if anything like
> that occurs I am a DQ - I promise not to interfere again!!
>
> For me.
>
> Stirp: a draught of meglethin or mead presented to a hunter as he sets
out.
>
>
> JohnnyB
>

[Daniel B. Widdis]

JB> I promise not to interfere again!!

We're laughing with you, not at you. :)

--
Dan

[Dave Cunningham]

Heck -- one I knew also ...

Dave


On Feb 17, 12:25*pm, "JohnnyB" <johnnyba... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> Chuck
>
> What was originally an old word (from the latin) for lineage or forbears now
> has a specific meaning - mind you its an odd meaning - it means a line from
> one forbear only and has uses in both biology and law - in both cases it is
> usually found in the plural but I have seen it in the singular and first met
> it in Bacon and had to look it up (countries ruled by the stirps of nobility
> are more usually quiet than democracies) *and you will probably also hear
> it/see it in this year celebrating Darwin's birth *- so if anything like
> that occurs I am a DQ - I promise not to interfere again!!
>
> For me.
>
> Stirp: *a draught of meglethin or mead presented to a hunter as he sets out.
>
> JohnnyB

[JohnnyB]

You are all very gracious - thank-you

Why is my memory good at details but not good at processing?

Johnnyb

>
> JB> I promise not to interfere again!!
>
> We're laughing with you, not at you. :)
>
> --
> Dan
>

[Chuck]

The word for round 1980 is

**
****
******
******** HAWM
******
****
**

Capitalization is not significant.

Please submit your fake definitions for this word, by _email_, on or
before the deadline, which is 11:00 PM EST on Wednesday, February 18,
2009, or 8:00 PM PST .

[Daniel B. Widdis]

Hawm: The whole hind leg of a piwg.

--
Dan|naD

[Chuck]

So far, 13 defintions have been received, from the following players:

Barrs, Bourne, Carson, Cunningham, Hart, Hirst, Lodge, Madnick, Savage,
Shefler, Shepherdson, Weltz and Widdis.

The word, in case you missed the initial posting, is HAWM.

You still have 11 hours to submit your fake definitions for this word,
(which you should of course send me by _email_). The deadline for
definitions is Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:00 PM EST, 8:00 PM PST

Another 5 or more defs would be very welcome,

Your Dealer

[Chuck]

There are a total of 20 definitions for HAWM. Please vote for two, by
public reply to this message, before deadline, which is 11:00 AM EST on
Friday, February 20, 2009, or 8:00 AM PST .

1. A metal clasp that is used in carpentry to hold two
pieces of wood tightly together when it is unwieldy to
use conventional screws or nails.

2. A medieval Cornish bagpipe.

3. A mason's trowel.

4. A newborn giraffe.

5. Green timber, esp. firewood that has not been properly
dried; hence any material unsuited to its purpose.

6. Ancient learning or thought.

7. A burial mound or cairn.

8. An angular form of the Arabic alphabet used in making
fine copies of the Koran.

9. Corner of the eye.

10. A seam of coal [Old Welsh].

11. A thick mutton and vegetable soup.

12. (_Scot._) Cold cooked oatmeal, which is formed into
patties and fried.

13. A club moss, _Lycopodium huffmani_, of central Europe;
also called Wolf's Paw.

14. A locking brace.

15. Steel link with clip on side used in mountaineering.

16. A loincloth.

17. To move about awkwardly; to lounge.

18. A lumberjack's mark on the bark of a tree indicating
that the tree is to be felled.

19. A pair of oxen yoked in single file.

20. _Scots._ A roll of fat flesh.

[Daniel B. Widdis]

I'll go with the lumber: 5 and 18.

--
Dan

[Tim B]

3 and 14, please.

Best wishes,
Tim B.

[Tim Lodge]

Chuck

I've just had a load of unburnable wood delivered and HAWM could be
Arabic, so I'll vote for:

5 and 8 please.

-- Tim L

[Guerri Stevens]

I vote for 1 and 14.

Guerri

[France International]

I'll vote for 2 and 9.

[Dave Cunningham]

12 for the Scots, and 19 as quite impossible.


Dave

On Feb 18, 11:04*pm, Chuck <ch... (AT) tdi (DOT) ca> wrote:
> There are a total of 20 definitions for HAWM. Please vote for two, by
> public reply to this message, before deadline, which is 11:00 AM EST on
> Friday, February 20, 2009, or 8:00 AM PST .
>
> *1. A metal clasp that is used in carpentry to hold two
> * * pieces of wood tightly together when it is unwieldy to
> * * use conventional screws or nails.
>
> *2. A medieval Cornish bagpipe.
>
> *3. A mason's trowel.
>
> *4. A newborn giraffe.
>
> *5. Green timber, esp. firewood that has not been properly
> * * dried; hence any material unsuited to its purpose.
>
> *6. Ancient learning or thought.
>
> *7. A burial mound or cairn.
>
> *8. An angular form of the Arabic alphabet used in making
> * * fine copies of the Koran.
>
> *9. Corner of the eye.
>
> 10. A seam of coal [Old Welsh].
>
> 11. A thick mutton and vegetable soup.
>
> 12. (_Scot._) Cold cooked oatmeal, which is formed into
> * * patties and fried.
>
> 13. A club moss, _Lycopodium huffmani_, of central Europe;
> * * also called Wolf's Paw.
>
> 14. A locking brace.
>
> 15. Steel link with clip on side used in mountaineering.
>
> 16. A loincloth.
>
> 17. To move about awkwardly; to lounge.
>
> 18. A lumberjack's mark on the bark of a tree indicating
> * * that the tree is to be felled.
>
> 19. A pair of oxen yoked in single file.
>
> 20. _Scots._ A roll of fat flesh.

[Paul Keating]

I vote for the unpopular but prime 11 and 17.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

[Russ Heimerson]

I'll go for #17 and #18, please.

Russ

[Christopher Carson]

7 and 14 for me this time.

Chris

[Tony Abell]

Thinking about Scots: 6 and 20.

> 6. Ancient learning or thought.

> 20. _Scots._ A roll of fat flesh.

[Chuck]

The winner of round 1980 is Toni Savage, whose definition "A
locking brace." earned a natural 4 .

However . . .

Ms Toes has informed me that she will not be able to deal as she's
on her way out of town. Her response was, to quote, "yikes!"

There were 5 players in coveted second place with 3 points
each: Scott Crom, Tim Lodge, Mike Shefler, Russ Heimerson
and Paul Keating.

But only the first three had natural 3's. The first two were tied in
the 5 round totals, but Scott Crom takes the deal by leading in the
4 round totals.

The true definition was 17: "To move about awkwardly; to
lounge." (The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary 3rd Ed. rev.
1965), which 2 perceptive players guessed.

I'm taking JohnnyB's lack of vote as a DQ, as prior to posting the
defs he offered "something to do with aggressive loitering (like a
band of youths determined to mischief and affray are said to be
hawming about)" which, while not exact, is fairly close.

My compliments to Coryphæus, which saved me a great deal of work.
With that I'll turn over to deal to Scott, who probably didn't see it
coming.

1. A metal clasp that is used in carpentry to hold two
pieces of wood tightly together when it is unwieldy to
use conventional screws or nails.
Vote from: Stevens
Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 1.

2. A medieval Cornish bagpipe.
Vote from: Shefler
Submitted by: Keating, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.

3. A mason's trowel.
Vote from: Bourne
Submitted by: Stevens, who scores natural 1.

4. A newborn giraffe.
Vote from: Savage
Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 1.

5. Green timber, esp. firewood that has not been properly
dried; hence any material unsuited to its purpose.
Votes from: Widdis, Lodge
Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 2.

6. Ancient learning or thought.
Vote from: Abell
Submitted by: Heimerson, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.

7. A burial mound or cairn.
Votes from: Schultz, Carson, Crom
Submitted by: Shefler, who scores natural 3.

8. An angular form of the Arabic alphabet used in making
fine copies of the Koran.
Vote from: Lodge
Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 1.

9. Corner of the eye.
Vote from: Shefler
Submitted by: Barrs, who scores natural 1.

10. A seam of coal [Old Welsh].
Vote from: Crom
Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 1.

11. A thick mutton and vegetable soup.
Vote from: Keating
Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 1.

12. (_Scot._) Cold cooked oatmeal, which is formed into
patties and fried.
Votes from: Madnick, Cunningham, Weltz
Submitted by: Crom, who scores natural 3.

13. A club moss, _Lycopodium huffmani_, of central Europe;
also called Wolf's Paw.
Vote from: Madnick
Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 1.

14. A locking brace.
Votes from: Schultz, Bourne, Carson, Stevens
Submitted by: Savage, who scores natural 4.

15. Steel link with clip on side used in mountaineering.
No votes
Submitted by: Madnick.

16. A loincloth.
No votes
Submitted by: Shepherdson.

17. To move about awkwardly; to lounge.
Votes from: Heimerson, Keating
Real definition from The Shorter Oxford English
Dictionary 3rd Ed. rev. 1965

18. A lumberjack's mark on the bark of a tree indicating
that the tree is to be felled.
Votes from: Heimerson, Widdis, Weltz
Submitted by: Lodge, who scores natural 3.

19. A pair of oxen yoked in single file.
Vote from: Cunningham
Submitted by: Hirst, who scores natural 1.

20. _Scots._ A roll of fat flesh.
Votes from: Savage, Abell
Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 2.

Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
Savage 14 4 & 20 4 0 4
Crom 12 7 & 10 3 0 3
Lodge 18 5 & 8 3 0 3
Shefler 7 2 & 9 3 0 3
Heimerson 6 17 & 18 1 2 3
Keating 2 11 & 17 1 2 3
Carson 20 7 & 14 2 0 2
Hart 5 N/V 2 0 2
Abell 4 6 & 20 1 0 1
Barrs 9 DQ 1 0 1
Bourne 11 3 & 14 1 0 1
Cunningham 10 12 & 19 1 0 1
Hirst 19 N/V 1 0 1
Schultz 13 7 & 14 1 0 1
Stevens 3 1 & 14 1 0 1
Weltz 1 12 & 18 1 0 1
Widdis 8 5 & 18 1 0 1
Madnick 15 12 & 13 0 0
Shepherdson 16 N/V 0 0

[France International]

I can't recall when we ever had a player win the deal with only 3 points.
Glad it wasn't me!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck" <chuck (AT) tdi (DOT) ca>
To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:32 AM
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Round 1980 - HAWM Results


>
> The winner of round 1980 is Toni Savage, whose definition "A
> locking brace." earned a natural 4 .
>
> However . . .
>
> Ms Toes has informed me that she will not be able to deal as she's
> on her way out of town. Her response was, to quote, "yikes!"
>
> There were 5 players in coveted second place with 3 points
> each: Scott Crom, Tim Lodge, Mike Shefler, Russ Heimerson
> and Paul Keating.
>
> But only the first three had natural 3's. The first two were tied in
> the 5 round totals, but Scott Crom takes the deal by leading in the
> 4 round totals.
>
> The true definition was 17: "To move about awkwardly; to
> lounge." (The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary 3rd Ed. rev.
> 1965), which 2 perceptive players guessed.
>
> I'm taking JohnnyB's lack of vote as a DQ, as prior to posting the
> defs he offered "something to do with aggressive loitering (like a
> band of youths determined to mischief and affray are said to be
> hawming about)" which, while not exact, is fairly close.
>
> My compliments to Coryphæus, which saved me a great deal of work.
> With that I'll turn over to deal to Scott, who probably didn't see it
> coming.
>
> 1. A metal clasp that is used in carpentry to hold two
> pieces of wood tightly together when it is unwieldy to
> use conventional screws or nails.
> Vote from: Stevens
> Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 1.
>
> 2. A medieval Cornish bagpipe.
> Vote from: Shefler
> Submitted by: Keating, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
>
> 3. A mason's trowel.
> Vote from: Bourne
> Submitted by: Stevens, who scores natural 1.
>
> 4. A newborn giraffe.
> Vote from: Savage
> Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 1.
>
> 5. Green timber, esp. firewood that has not been properly
> dried; hence any material unsuited to its purpose.
> Votes from: Widdis, Lodge
> Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 2.
>
> 6. Ancient learning or thought.
> Vote from: Abell
> Submitted by: Heimerson, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
>
> 7. A burial mound or cairn.
> Votes from: Schultz, Carson, Crom
> Submitted by: Shefler, who scores natural 3.
>
> 8. An angular form of the Arabic alphabet used in making
> fine copies of the Koran.
> Vote from: Lodge
> Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 1.
>
> 9. Corner of the eye.
> Vote from: Shefler
> Submitted by: Barrs, who scores natural 1.
>
> 10. A seam of coal [Old Welsh].
> Vote from: Crom
> Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 1.
>
> 11. A thick mutton and vegetable soup.
> Vote from: Keating
> Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 1.
>
> 12. (_Scot._) Cold cooked oatmeal, which is formed into
> patties and fried.
> Votes from: Madnick, Cunningham, Weltz
> Submitted by: Crom, who scores natural 3.
>
> 13. A club moss, _Lycopodium huffmani_, of central Europe;
> also called Wolf's Paw.
> Vote from: Madnick
> Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 1.
>
> 14. A locking brace.
> Votes from: Schultz, Bourne, Carson, Stevens
> Submitted by: Savage, who scores natural 4.
>
> 15. Steel link with clip on side used in mountaineering.
> No votes
> Submitted by: Madnick.
>
> 16. A loincloth.
> No votes
> Submitted by: Shepherdson.
>
> 17. To move about awkwardly; to lounge.
> Votes from: Heimerson, Keating
> Real definition from The Shorter Oxford English
> Dictionary 3rd Ed. rev. 1965
>
> 18. A lumberjack's mark on the bark of a tree indicating
> that the tree is to be felled.
> Votes from: Heimerson, Widdis, Weltz
> Submitted by: Lodge, who scores natural 3.
>
> 19. A pair of oxen yoked in single file.
> Vote from: Cunningham
> Submitted by: Hirst, who scores natural 1.
>
> 20. _Scots._ A roll of fat flesh.
> Votes from: Savage, Abell
> Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 2.
>
> Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
> ------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
> Savage 14 4 & 20 4 0 4
> Crom 12 7 & 10 3 0 3
> Lodge 18 5 & 8 3 0 3
> Shefler 7 2 & 9 3 0 3
> Heimerson 6 17 & 18 1 2 3
> Keating 2 11 & 17 1 2 3
> Carson 20 7 & 14 2 0 2
> Hart 5 N/V 2 0 2
> Abell 4 6 & 20 1 0 1
> Barrs 9 DQ 1 0 1
> Bourne 11 3 & 14 1 0 1
> Cunningham 10 12 & 19 1 0 1
> Hirst 19 N/V 1 0 1
> Schultz 13 7 & 14 1 0 1
> Stevens 3 1 & 14 1 0 1
> Weltz 1 12 & 18 1 0 1
> Widdis 8 5 & 18 1 0 1
> Madnick 15 12 & 13 0 0
> Shepherdson 16 N/V 0 0
>

[Paul Keating]

Chuck,

The 5-round rolling scores (_including_ the current round) and the 4-round
r0lling scores (_not_ including the current round) should give the same
resolution of a tie, since the tied players have equal scores in the current
round (that is why there is a tie) and so their scores in the current round
can't affect their relative positions.

The sole purpose of the 5-round rolling score is to resolve ties, and
including the current round in it does not serve that purpose. So including
the current round was clearly an oversight; but, oversight or not, that is
what rule 9(b) says.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck" <chuck (AT) tdi (DOT) ca>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:32 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Round 1980 - HAWM Results


> But only the first three had natural 3's. The first two were tied in
> the 5 round totals, but Scott Crom takes the deal by leading in the
> 4 round totals.

[Chuck]

Paul -

I was using the rolling scores as of round 1979 - the last rolling
scores posted. In round 1979, the "current" round, Tim and Scott were
not tied that round, which made their 5 rounds total tie resolvable by
their 4 round total difference. If I should have worked out the 1980
rolling scores first then their 5 round total would not have been tied,
but would have been 3 in each case plus their 1979 4 round total. Which
gives, thank heavens, the same result.

If I understand you correctly, I should have used the 4 round total from
round 1979 first, then the 5 round total to resolve a tie, if any. Or
should I have calculated the 1980 4 round totals and then used the 4
round totals from round 1979 (same relative values as 5 rounds in 1980)
to resolve a tie, if any. Now I'm confused.

Thanks for the heads up,

Chuck

Paul Keating wrote:
> Chuck,
>
> The 5-round rolling scores (_including_ the current round) and the 4-round
> r0lling scores (_not_ including the current round) should give the same
> resolution of a tie, since the tied players have equal scores in the current
> round (that is why there is a tie) and so their scores in the current round
> can't affect their relative positions.
>
> The sole purpose of the 5-round rolling score is to resolve ties, and
> including the current round in it does not serve that purpose. So including
> the current round was clearly an oversight; but, oversight or not, that is
> what rule 9(b) says.
>
> --
> Paul Keating
> The Hague
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck" <chuck (AT) tdi (DOT) ca>
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:32 PM
> Subject: [Dixonary] Re: Round 1980 - HAWM Results
>
>
>
>> But only the first three had natural 3's. The first two were tied in
>> the 5 round totals, but Scott Crom takes the deal by leading in the
>> 4 round totals.
>>
>
>
>

[Daniel B. Widdis]

CE> If I understand you correctly, I should have used the 4 round total from
round 1979 first



Yes.



CE> then the 5 round total to resolve a tie, if any.



No.



CE> If I should have worked out the 1980 rolling scores first then their 5
round total would not have been tied, but would have been 3 in each case
plus their 1979 4 round total.



This would have been the correct procedure. Or, as you observe, "3 in each
case plus" the 4 round, so you could just use the 4-round.



Basically, the 4-round scores from 1979 plus the just-concluded 1980
constitute the five rounds considered by the rules. Since you are looking
at rolling scores to resolve a tie, it means that adding in the tied 1980
scores would make no change to the relative difference between the tied
players, so you can safely look only at the 4-round rolling scores as-of the
previous round (1979 in this case). If those are still tied, the total
scores are the next tiebreaker.



The five-round average from the round 1979 rolling scores includes round
1975, which should not be considered (would be a 6th round) when determining
the next dealer following round 1980.



--

Dan

[Chuck]

Mmmm . . .

Thanks. I think I've got it now. Came up with the right results by the
wrong method - but would have been in deeper trouble and have gone wrong
had they been still tied when I was done. At that point I would have
asked which one was taller, or taken the first past the post, or
something equally incorrect. Fortunately I didn't have to drill that
deeply. And now I know for the next time, should it ever occur.

- Chuck


Daniel B. Widdis wrote:
>
> CE> If I understand you correctly, I should have used the 4 round
> total from round 1979 first
>
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
> CE> then the 5 round total to resolve a tie, if any.
>
>
>
> No.
>
>
>
> CE> If I should have worked out the 1980 rolling scores first then
> their 5 round total would not have been tied, but would have been 3 in
> each case plus their 1979 4 round total.
>
>
>
> This would have been the correct procedure. Or, as you observe, "3 in
> each case plus" the 4 round, so you could just use the 4-round.
>
>
>
> Basically, the 4-round scores from 1979 plus the just-concluded 1980
> constitute the five rounds considered by the rules. Since you are
> looking at rolling scores to resolve a tie, it means that adding in
> the tied 1980 scores would make no change to the relative difference
> between the tied players, so you can safely look only at the 4-round
> rolling scores as-of the previous round (1979 in this case). If those
> are still tied, the total scores are the next tiebreaker.
>
>
>
> The five-round average from the round 1979 rolling scores includes
> round 1975, which should not be considered (would be a 6th round) when
> determining the next dealer following round 1980.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dan
>
>
>