[Dixonary] Round 1959: DWAAL [Results]

[Paul Keating]

The real winner of this round was Jean Branford, whose definition of
DWAAL earned top spot with 6 votes for "a daze: to be in a ~,
disoriented; to wander aimlessly, ~ around, to get or be lost".
Unfortunately, Ma Branford is enjoying retirement (she taught me in my
first year at university) and is not available to deal.

Two players earned 5 unnatural points: they were John Barrs and Daniel
Widdis. Dan leads John 11-8 in the 5-round rolling scores and so gets
the deal.

There were 2 players in runner-up position with 4 points each: Wayne
Scott and Toni Savage.

My apologies, and 2 dealer points, to Judy Madnick, whose very
plausible def "Pakistani mutton stew" got stuck in one of my spam
filters. I did check them before posting but -- clearly -- with
insufficient care and attention.

*1.*a deep canyon narrow enough to jump across
****Votes from:***Savage, Bourne, Cunningham
****Submitted by: Widdis, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.

*2.*a corral formed by thorn branches
****Votes from:***Hart, Shepherdson, Stevens, Weltz
****Submitted by: Scott, who scores natural 4.

*3.*a small cottage, whitewashed wood or stucco commonly
****found in suburban areas of South Africa
****Votes from:***Bourne, Madnick
****Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 2.

*4.*_S.Afr._ a daze: to be in a ~, disoriented; to wander
****aimlessly, ~ around, to get or be lost
****Votes from:***Schultz, Savage, Widdis, Shefler,
******************Kornelis, Barrs
****Real definition from J. Branford, Dictionary of South
African English, 4ed (1991)

*5.*[Dutch] an earthworks
****Votes from:***Scott, Crom
****Submitted by: Shepherdson, who scores natural 2.

*6.*a large estate
****Votes from:***Shepherdson, Carson
****Submitted by: Savage, who scores 2 + 2, total 4.

*7.*live in; inhabit
****No votes
****Submitted by: Bourne.

*8.*a Polynesian meeting house
****Vote from:****Madnick
****Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 1.

*9.*a small portable organ
****Vote from:****Hart
****Submitted by: Heimerson, who scores natural 1.

10.*[Hind.] a paste made of lentils and potato
****Votes from:***Hirst, Weltz
****Submitted by: Emery, who scores natural 2.

11.*a shallow, brush-filled ravine
****Vote from:****Barrs
****Submitted by: Crom, who scores natural 1.

12.*[Afrikaans] a row of trees lining both sides of a
****roadway
****Vote from:****Scott
****Submitted by: Shefler, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.

13.*a soccer player
****Vote from:****Carson
****Submitted by: Stevens, who scores natural 1.

14.*[Afrik.] a slaughterhouse.
****No votes
****Submitted by: Schultz, who scores 0 + 2, total 2.

15.*[Afrik.] a slough
****No votes
****Submitted by: Cunningham.

16.*_S.Afr._ bush spirit that leads travelers astray
****No votes
****Submitted by: Kornelis, who scores 0 + 2, total 2.

17.*a thick stew made from lentils, onions, and spices
****Votes from:***Hirst, Crom
****Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 2.

18.*the long gloaming twilight of the sub-artic [ON
****_dwolme_ small light]
****Votes from:***Schultz, Widdis, Stevens
****Submitted by: Barrs, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.

19.*an hallucinogenic vine of tropical rain forests,
****identifiable by its rotten egg odor
****No votes
****Submitted by: Hirst.

20.*a usually dry watercourse in South Africa
****Votes from:***Shefler, Kornelis, Cunningham
****Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 3.

****Player*********Def*Voted*for*Votes*Guess*DP*To tal
****------*********---*---------*-----*-----*--*-----
****Widdis***********1****4*&*18*****3*****2********5
Barrs 18 4 & 11 3 2 5
****Scott************2****5*&*12*****4*****0********4
****Savage***********6****1*&*4******2*****2********4
****Abell***********20******N/V******3*****0********3
****Shefler*********12****4*&*20*****1*****2********3
****Carson**********17****6*&*13*****2*****0********2
****Emery***********10******N/V******2*****0********2
****Madnick***************3*&*8************0**2*****2
****Shepherdson******5****2*&*6******2*****0********2
****Weltz************3****2*&*10*****2*****0********2
****Kornelis********16****4*&*20***********2********2
****Schultz*********14****4*&*18***********2********2
****Crom************11****5*&*17*****1*****0********1
****Hart*************8****2*&*9******1*****0********1
****Heimerson********9******N/V******1*****0********1
****Stevens*********13****2*&*18*****1*****0********1
****Bourne***********7****1*&*3************0********0
****Cunningham******15****1*&*20***********0********0
****Hirst***********19***10*&*17***********0********0

[Judy Madnick]

<< My apologies, and 2 dealer points, to Judy Madnick, whose
<< very
<< plausible def "Pakistani mutton stew" got stuck in one of my
<< spam
<< filters. I did check them before posting but -- clearly -- with
<< insufficient care and attention.

As I said to Paul privately, I have to figure out how to get my definitions "stuck" in more spam filters. The two dealer points he gave me are more than I've been earning with my definitions lately! I see that the other "food" definitions didn't receive any more votes than my two, so I feel better now. <G>

Judy Madnick
Independent Tupperware Consultant
Ask me about Tupperware opportunities!
tupperware (AT) judyandstu (DOT) com
http://my2.tupperware.com/judymadnick

[Daniel B. Widdis]

I am flying cross country today. If everyone can wait 24 hours I can
deal. Otherwise I will defer.

--
Dan Widdis
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:57 AM, Paul Keating <keating (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:

> The real winner of this round was Jean Branford, whose definition of
> DWAAL earned top spot with 6 votes for "a daze: to be in a ~,
> disoriented; to wander aimlessly, ~ around, to get or be lost".
> Unfortunately, Ma Branford is enjoying retirement (she taught me in my
> first year at university) and is not available to deal.
>
> Two players earned 5 unnatural points: they were John Barrs and Daniel
> Widdis. Dan leads John 11-8 in the 5-round rolling scores and so gets
> the deal.
>
> There were 2 players in runner-up position with 4 points each: Wayne
> Scott and Toni Savage.
>
> My apologies, and 2 dealer points, to Judy Madnick, whose very
> plausible def "Pakistani mutton stew" got stuck in one of my spam
> filters. I did check them before posting but -- clearly -- with
> insufficient care and attention.
>
> 1. a deep canyon narrow enough to jump across
> Votes from: Savage, Bourne, Cunningham
> Submitted by: Widdis, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.
>
> 2. a corral formed by thorn branches
> Votes from: Hart, Shepherdson, Stevens, Weltz
> Submitted by: Scott, who scores natural 4.
>
> 3. a small cottage, whitewashed wood or stucco commonly
> found in suburban areas of South Africa
> Votes from: Bourne, Madnick
> Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 2.
>
> 4. _S.Afr._ a daze: to be in a ~, disoriented; to wander
> aimlessly, ~ around, to get or be lost
> Votes from: Schultz, Savage, Widdis, Shefler,
> Kornelis, Barrs
> Real definition from J. Branford, Dictionary of South
> African English, 4ed (1991)
>
> 5. [Dutch] an earthworks
> Votes from: Scott, Crom
> Submitted by: Shepherdson, who scores natural 2.
>
> 6. a large estate
> Votes from: Shepherdson, Carson
> Submitted by: Savage, who scores 2 + 2, total 4.
>
> 7. live in; inhabit
> No votes
> Submitted by: Bourne.
>
> 8. a Polynesian meeting house
> Vote from: Madnick
> Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 1.
>
> 9. a small portable organ
> Vote from: Hart
> Submitted by: Heimerson, who scores natural 1.
>
> 10. [Hind.] a paste made of lentils and potato
> Votes from: Hirst, Weltz
> Submitted by: Emery, who scores natural 2.
>
> 11. a shallow, brush-filled ravine
> Vote from: Barrs
> Submitted by: Crom, who scores natural 1.
>
> 12. [Afrikaans] a row of trees lining both sides of a
> roadway
> Vote from: Scott
> Submitted by: Shefler, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
>
> 13. a soccer player
> Vote from: Carson
> Submitted by: Stevens, who scores natural 1.
>
> 14. [Afrik.] a slaughterhouse.
> No votes
> Submitted by: Schultz, who scores 0 + 2, total 2.
>
> 15. [Afrik.] a slough
> No votes
> Submitted by: Cunningham.
>
> 16. _S.Afr._ bush spirit that leads travelers astray
> No votes
> Submitted by: Kornelis, who scores 0 + 2, total 2.
>
> 17. a thick stew made from lentils, onions, and spices
> Votes from: Hirst, Crom
> Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 2.
>
> 18. the long gloaming twilight of the sub-artic [ON
> _dwolme_ small light]
> Votes from: Schultz, Widdis, Stevens
> Submitted by: Barrs, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.
>
> 19. an hallucinogenic vine of tropical rain forests,
> identifiable by its rotten egg odor
> No votes
> Submitted by: Hirst.
>
> 20. a usually dry watercourse in South Africa
> Votes from: Shefler, Kornelis, Cunningham
> Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 3.
>
> Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
> ------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
> Widdis 1 4 & 18 3 2 5
> Barrs 18 4 & 11 3 2 5
> Scott 2 5 & 12 4 0 4
> Savage 6 1 & 4 2 2 4
> Abell 20 N/V 3 0 3
> Shefler 12 4 & 20 1 2 3
> Carson 17 6 & 13 2 0 2
> Emery 10 N/V 2 0 2
> Madnick 3 & 8 0 2 2
> Shepherdson 5 2 & 6 2 0 2
> Weltz 3 2 & 10 2 0 2
> Kornelis 16 4 & 20 2 2
> Schultz 14 4 & 18 2 2
> Crom 11 5 & 17 1 0 1
> Hart 8 2 & 9 1 0 1
> Heimerson 9 N/V 1 0 1
> Stevens 13 2 & 18 1 0 1
> Bourne 7 1 & 3 0 0
> Cunningham 15 1 & 20 0 0
> Hirst 19 10 & 17 0 0

[Dodi Schultz]

I've received two responses (Judy's and Dan's) to the apparently announced
results--but no results!

Happily, Dan included Paul's entire report with his brief note about a
slight postponement of the next deal.

But that's weird.

--Dodi

[Paul Keating]

Google mailed my message out encoded as base-64. That is probably something
to do with the non-breaking spaces that the report uses to preserve
indentation and tabular layout.

Dan's email program translated the nonbreaking spaces to ordinary spaces in
the backquote, and the encoding of his message is plain ascii.

I think CIS must have decided that base-64 in the original message meant it
was binary, and nobbled it for you. Even though it says it's plain text.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

----- Original Message -----
I've received two responses (Judy's and Dan's) to the apparently announced
results--but no results!

Happily, Dan included Paul's entire report with his brief note about a
slight postponement of the next deal.

But that's weird.

--Dodi

[Dodi Schultz]

Paul,

>> I think CIS must have decided that base-64 in the original message
>> meant it was binary, and nobbled it for you. Even though it says
>> it's plain text.

I've no idea what "nobble" means in this context. My dictionaries say it's
Brit slang meaning to disable (a horse) or to swindle or lie to (a person).

In any event: No, that's not what happened. CompuServe doesn't reject
material it perceives as binary. TAPCIS would have delivered it to me--in
my case, because of my own settings, in the form of a header and an
indication that the message was binary, and I'd have sent the program back
to fetch it. (I have it set that way because most such attachments are spam
and in those cases I issue "erase" instructions.) No message or hint of one
ever reached my mailbox, and I checked both via TAPCIS *and* at Mail2Web.

--Dodi

[Paul Keating]

Nobble:
3. trans. b. To steal; to obtain by dishonest methods. 5. trans. To get
hold of, seize, catch. Also: to kidnap. OED Draft Revision June 2008.

The situation you describe is when you get a notification of a binary
attachment. You get an empty message and are told that it has a binary MIME
attachment, and you go back to get the attachment.

But in this case the base-64 was in the body of the message, which I reckon
isn't quite the same thing.

It's only a hypothesis, of course, but it's easy enough to verify. Look out
for two messages with the header [OT] Test message - Non-breaking space. If
I am right you will get only the one timestamped 12h07, but other members of
the group will get both, 12h06 and 12h07.

(Well, I tried to achieve the same thing as before but it didn't work. I see
from the headers that Google decided this time to encode the first message
as quoted-printable not base-64. So, not so easy to verify as I thought.)

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dodi Schultz" <SCHULTZ (AT) compuserve (DOT) com>
Subject: [Dixonary] Round 1959: DWAAL [Results]



>> I've no idea what "nobble" means in this context.
>> CompuServe doesn't reject material it perceives as binary.

[Dodi Schultz]

>> Look out for two messages with the header [OT] Test message -
>> Non-breaking space. If I am right you will get only the one
>> timestamped 12h07, but other members of the group will get both,
>> 12h06 and 12h07.

I got them both, Paul.

--Dodi

[Paul Keating]

I've now managed to work out how to get Google to reproduce the encoding of
the original message, that is, it has the following in the headers

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

so I've sent a new pair of messages (base-64 timestamped 13h58; ascii
timestamped 13h59) that at least tests what I was attempting to test the
first time.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dodi Schultz" <SCHULTZ (AT) compuserve (DOT) com>
To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:20 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] Round 1959: DWAAL [Results]


I got them both, Paul.

--Dodi

[Dodi Schultz]

>> so I've sent a new pair of messages (base-64 timestamped 13h58;
>> ascii timestamped 13h59) that at least tests what I was attempting
>> to test the first time.

Paul, do you mean you sent them to Dixonary? In addition to the one I've
quoted from above (which arrived in my mailbox at 10:54 EST)? It's now
about 16:00 EST; I've seen no other messages from you today.

--Dodi

[Paul Keating]

Um. This means you didn't get _either_ of the test messages. Rats! I thought
I was on the track of the problem.

I'm pretty sure the base-64 encoding has something to do with it, but I have
also found out that my spam filter regards ascii that is gratuitously
encoded in base-64 is a symptom of spam.

So CIS may not be objecting to the message because of binariness but because
of spamminess.

Since that might be the case I will wait a while before trying any more test
messages. We don't want CIS to ban all mail from the group as spam on
account of some non-breaking spaces.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:13 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] Round 1959: DWAAL [Results]



Paul, do you mean you sent them to Dixonary? In addition to the one I've
quoted from above (which arrived in my mailbox at 10:54 EST)? It's now
about 16:00 EST; I've seen no other messages from you today.

[Dodi Schultz]

>> CIS may not be objecting to the message because of binariness but
>> because of spamminess.

CIS cheerfully sends through LOTS of offers of cheap watches, home
insurance, Russian call girls, anatomical enhancers, and ways to make big
money in a little spare time. CIS isn't turned off by spamminess. ;-)

CIS sends through any old thing; it's just that if it's not plaintext, it's
handled as an attachment (*I* do that, with my TAPCIS settings), so if it's
something I want I can tell TAP to fetch it, and if it's not, I tell TAP to
delete it from my mailbox.

--Dodi

[Paul Keating]

I understand that CIS's filtering stops by no means everything that it
should. But it does stop some incoming email, and some of what gets stopped
is legitimate. For example, neither Hugo nor I can email you directly,
without interposing a webmail service or a forum, because over a year ago
CIS banned us (and about 6 million other Dutch households and businesses) on
account of spam emanating from one of those 6 million accounts. The last
time I looked the ban was still in force.

One of the test emails was pure 7-bit ascii, the other was base-64. You
didn't get either, so it's clearly not the base-64 issue. But you did get
the message that Dan posted an hour earlier, and one from me 3 hours later.
What the two missing messages in the middle have in common is that they were
composed in Google's web interface, not emailed. They also have that in
common with the results posting that you only saw in a quoteback.

But that isn't the whole story, because they also have that in common with
the first two test messages, both of which you got.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dodi Schultz" <SCHULTZ (AT) compuserve (DOT) com>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 6:54 AM


>> CIS may not be objecting to the message because of binariness but
>> because of spamminess.

> CIS sends through any old thing