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Judy Madnick
November 8th, 2008, 09:54 AM
I ran into a dilemma during this round.

The definition I found in more than one place (and used) was: "to hobble with a horseshoe nail."

It seems that answers.com shows a definition of "accloy" as follows:

[OF. encloyer, encloer, F. enclouer, to drive in a nail, fr. L. in + clavus nail.] To fill to satiety; to stuff full; to clog; to overload; to burden. See Cloy. [Obs.] Chaucer.

Coincidentally, Paul Keating's offering was "to nail sth. shut [NF acloyer fm Romance *inclavare fm L clavus nail]."

Should I have given two points to those who voted for Paul's definition?

Johnny Barrs thought he was a DQ because "clavus is definitely a correct derivation . . ." and he therefore assumed that Paul's definition was the dictionary definition (and, in fact, is darn close to the "drive in a nail" definition!!). I told him he was not a DQ based upon the definition I was using.

Whew! I am going to present the results as I have them. If anyone disagrees based upon the above information, feel free to edit the results. Also, I apologize for the messy results list at the end of this message -- that's probably a result of pasting it into a text message.

Based upon the definition I was using, the winner of round 1951 is Dave Cunningham, whose definition "[Brit. Law] the right of a monk to avoid testifying in court [Norman French _accloyer_ , to renounce (secular things)]." earned a natural 7 .

Paul Keating takes coveted second place with 6 points. Chuck Emery is runner-up with 4 points.

The true definition was 7: "to hobble with a horseshoe nail," (Forthright's Phrontistery and others), which 2 perceptive players guessed. I never heard from Chris Carson -- even checked my spam folder. I hope his vote didn't get lost in cyberspace. <sigh>

*1.*a whetstone.
****No votes
****Submitted by: Widdis.

*2.*to oversweeten.
****Votes from:***Bourne, Cunningham
****Submitted by: Scott, who scores natural 2.

*3.*[Obs.] to adhere.
****Vote from:****Crom
****Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 1.

*4.*to split with an axe.
****Votes from:***Schultz, Widdis
****Submitted by: Barrs, who scores natural 2.

*5.*become disgustingly sweet.
****Votes from:***Bourne, Cunningham
****Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 2.

*6.*insincere praise; flattery.
****No votes
****Submitted by: Bourne.

*7.*to hobble with a horseshoe nail,
****Votes from:***Keating, Shefler
****Real definition from Forthright's Phrontistery

*8.*a private secretary or attendant.
****Vote from:****Stevens
****Submitted by: Heimerson, who scores natural 1.

*9.*to join together with glue or gum.
****Vote from:****Emery
****Submitted by: Shefler, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.

10.*to be fumigated by clinging odors.
****No votes
****Submitted by: Abell.

11.*a small decorative three-legged table.
****Vote from:****Crom
****Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 1.

12.*a dementia with abhorrence of clothing.
****No votes
****Submitted by: Hirst.

13.*to apply a cloisonne finish to a surface.
****Votes from:***Shepherdson, Weltz
****Submitted by: Crom, who scores natural 2.

14.*a small xylophone, mainly used by folk or gospel musicians.
****No votes
****Submitted by: Stevens.

15.*a large heavy stone apparently used in a game in the Middle Ages.
****Vote from:****Schultz
****Submitted by: Savage, who scores natural 1.

16.*to nail sth. shut [NF acloyer fm Romance *inclavare fm L clavus
****nail].
****Votes from:***Heimerson, Keating, Widdis, Shepherdson, Abell
****Submitted by: Keating, who scores 4 + 2, total 6.

17.*to accumulate small particles through the action of surface
****tension, as when diamonds adhere to grease.
****Votes from:***Scott, Hirst, Stevens, Shefler
****Submitted by: Emery, who scores natural 4.

18.*[Brit. Law] the right of a monk to avoid testifying in court
****[Norman French _accloyer_ , to renounce (secular things)].
****Votes from:***Heimerson, Scott, Savage, Hirst, Abell, Barrs, Weltz
****Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 7.

19.*[Bot.] the tendancy of some deciduous trees to retain leaves until
****spring budding; the degree to which this occurs is known as
****"partial accloy" or "full accloy."
****Votes from:***Emery, Savage, Barrs
****Submitted by: Shepherdson, who scores natural 3.

****Player*********Def*Voted*for*Votes*Guess*DP*To tal
****------*********---*---------*-----*-----*--*-----
****Cunningham******18****2*&*5******7*****0********7
****Keating*********16****7*&*16*****4*****2********6
****Emery***********17****9*&*19*****4*****0********4
****Shepherdson*****19***13*&*16*****3*****0********3
****Shefler**********9****7*&*17*****1*****2********3
****Barrs************4***18*&*19*****2*****0********2
****Crom************13****3*&*11*****2*****0********2
****Scott************2***17*&*18*****2*****0********2
****Weltz************5***13*&*18*****2*****0********2
****Carson**********11******N/V******1*****0********1
****Heimerson********8***16*&*18*****1*****0********1
****Savage**********15***18*&*19*****1*****0********1
****Schultz**********3****4*&*15*****1*****0********1
****Abell***********10***16*&*18***********0********0
****Bourne***********6****2*&*5************0********0
****Hirst***********12***17*&*18***********0********0
****Stevens*********14****8*&*17***********0********0
****Widdis***********1****4*&*16***********0********0

Dodi Schultz
November 8th, 2008, 10:55 AM
Judy,

You say...

>> The definition I found in more than one place (and used) was: "to
>> hobble with a horseshoe nail."
>>
>> It seems that answers.com shows a definition of "accloy" as follows:
>>
>> [OF. encloyer, encloer, F. enclouer, to drive in a nail, fr. L. in +
>> clavus nail.] To fill to satiety; to stuff full; to clog; to
>> overload; to burden. See Cloy. [Obs.] Chaucer.
>>
>> Coincidentally, Paul Keating's offering was "to nail sth. shut [NF
>> acloyer fm Romance *inclavare fm L clavus nail]."

and you ask...

>> Should I have given two points to those who voted for Paul's
>> definition?

No. (I found both defs, too, when I looked it up--after I voted, of
course). Paul's def is very like the *etymology* noted in the second real
def, but "to nail something shut" isn't anything like the *def* given there
("to fill to satiety; to stuff full; to clog..."). Neither Paul nor anyone
else offered anything like the latter.

--Dodi

Judy Madnick
November 8th, 2008, 11:37 AM
From: "Dodi Schultz" <SCHULTZ (AT) compuserve (DOT) com>

<< No. (I found both defs, too, when I looked it up--after I voted, of
<< course). Paul's def is very like the *etymology* noted in the
<< second real
<< def, but "to nail something shut" isn't anything like the *def*
<< given there
<< ("to fill to satiety; to stuff full; to clog..."). Neither Paul nor
<< anyone
<< else offered anything like the latter.

Thank you, Dodi. I value your opinion. Whew!

Judy Madnick
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