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Nancy Shepherdson
June 7th, 2008, 12:33 AM
Who knew that when I looked out my window looking for a fake def for
hatchment, my eye would alight on the rough stone wall holding back my
neighbor's portion of the pond, five of you would believe it, and I'd
get saddled with the deal? Isn't it always the ones you put no effort
into that come back to bite you? (Hmmm...)

The word for this round (no idea what number) is:

-------------->>>> HERLE <<<<-------------------------


Please submit your fake, funny, fatuous or inspired definitions to me
by private email at nancygoal at gmail.com by:

3 p.m. EDT Sunday June 8
1 p.m. PDT
which I think is 8 p.m. GMT Sunday
everybody else is on their own.

DQ's, of course, should be submitted with exceptional
expeditiousness. That means you, John Barrs.

Newbies, feel free to submit a definition; don't look up the word;
find the full rules in Google Files.

Am I forgetting anything? My brain is mush from a day of hard
physical labor. I should never do that...

Nancy

Daniel B. Widdis
June 7th, 2008, 02:43 AM
NS> nancygoal at gmail.com

Isn't it nancygoat?

--
Dan, who pays attention to goat-related trivia

Nancy Shepherdson
June 7th, 2008, 07:32 AM
Yes, "nancygoat"

On Jun 7, 2:43*am, "Daniel B. Widdis" <wid... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> NS> nancygoal at gmail.com
>
> Isn't it nancygoat?
>
> --
> Dan, who pays attention to goat-related trivia

Dodi Schultz
June 7th, 2008, 09:34 AM
>> nancygoal at gmail.com

Uh, have you changed your address again? Or was that just a typo?

--Dodi

Nancy Shepherdson
June 7th, 2008, 01:52 PM
Just a typo.

On Jun 7, 9:34*am, Dodi Schultz <SCHU... (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:
> * >> nancygoal at gmail.com
>
> Uh, have you changed your address again? Or was that just a typo?
>
> --Dodi

Chuck
June 11th, 2008, 04:53 PM
I was anticipating this and hoping that it wasn't so, but here you go:

The word for round 1914 is

***
*******
***********
*************** LOWN)E
***********
*******
***

Capitalization is not significant. I believe two spellings are being
indicated, but feel free to interpret the word in your own fashion.

Please submit your fake definitions for this word, by _email_, to me at
chuck*tdi*ca (using @ and . where usual) on or before the deadline,
which is 8:00 AM EDT on Friday, June 13, 2008, or 5:00 AM PDT

One and all are welcome to join. Full rules are available in Google Files.

Please DQ early, as I'm out most of the day tomorrow, and also in
classes all weekend, which gives me rather unusual windows in which to deal.

Thanks and enjoy,

Chuck

France International
June 11th, 2008, 05:01 PM
What is the letter between N and E?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck" <chuck (AT) tdi (DOT) ca>
To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:53 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] New Word round 1914: LOWN(E


>
> I was anticipating this and hoping that it wasn't so, but here you go:
>
> The word for round 1914 is
>
> ***
> *******
> ***********
> *************** LOWN)E
> ***********
> *******
> ***
>
> Capitalization is not significant. I believe two spellings are being
> indicated, but feel free to interpret the word in your own fashion.
>
> Please submit your fake definitions for this word, by _email_, to me at
> chuck*tdi*ca (using @ and . where usual) on or before the deadline,
> which is 8:00 AM EDT on Friday, June 13, 2008, or 5:00 AM PDT
>
> One and all are welcome to join. Full rules are available in Google
Files.
>
> Please DQ early, as I'm out most of the day tomorrow, and also in
> classes all weekend, which gives me rather unusual windows in which to
deal.
>
> Thanks and enjoy,
>
> Chuck
>

Chuck
June 11th, 2008, 05:02 PM
Oops. Off to a less than spectacular start.

The letter is a Left Parenthesis, as in --> (

My spelling in the heading agrees with the dictionary, and my use of a
right parenthesis in the body is an error.

Sorry about that, :(

Chuck

France International wrote:
> What is the letter between N and E?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck" <chuck (AT) tdi (DOT) ca>
> To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:53 PM
> Subject: [Dixonary] New Word round 1914: LOWN(E
>

France International
June 11th, 2008, 06:03 PM
Chuck,

You must be kidding. A left parenthesis? Really??

Oh well, I would have been DQ if it had been a _right_ parenthesis.

Just kidding.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck" <chuck (AT) tdi (DOT) ca>
To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 6:02 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] Re: New Word round 1914: LOWN(E


>
> Oops. Off to a less than spectacular start.
>
> The letter is a Left Parenthesis, as in --> (
>
> My spelling in the heading agrees with the dictionary, and my use of a
> right parenthesis in the body is an error.
>
> Sorry about that, :(
>
> Chuck
>
> France International wrote:
> > What is the letter between N and E?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chuck" <chuck (AT) tdi (DOT) ca>
> > To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:53 PM
> > Subject: [Dixonary] New Word round 1914: LOWN(E
> >
>

Nancy Shepherdson
June 12th, 2008, 12:18 AM
So it's lown(e? Or low(n)e? Or lown(e)?

Please clarify.

Nancy

On Jun 11, 5:02*pm, Chuck <ch... (AT) tdi (DOT) ca> wrote:
> Oops. *Off to a less than spectacular start.
>
> The letter is a Left Parenthesis, as in --> *(
>
> My spelling in the heading agrees with the dictionary, and my use of a
> right parenthesis in the body is an error.
>
> Sorry about that, :(
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> France International wrote:
> > What is the letter between N and E?
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chuck" <ch... (AT) tdi (DOT) ca>
> > To: <Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:53 PM
> > Subject: [Dixonary] New Word round 1914: LOWN(E- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Chuck
June 12th, 2008, 12:46 AM
Oh my gosh! Just now back on the internet. Been talking to various
East Indian tech staff for the last 2.5 hours. My download speed went
from the usual 4K to around 400 at 5 PM, and was down to maybe 10 by 11
PM - so slow as to make accessing a web site impossible. DNS and
traceroute and ping all worked, but I don't know of any text only
websites anymore, and I've misplaced my copy of Lynx anyway, so I was
effectively off line. So now it's 1:30 AM and I have to be up by 6 AM
for a full day tomorrow. Bright and cheerful . . . maybe.

So, to answer your question (sorry it took so long, see above), the
dictionary says "lown(e" which I take to mean lown OR lowne - either is
acceptable (or both are acceptable, or whatever). Perhaps I'm violating
the rules by supplying wordS instead of a word. In which case I would
refer anyone complaining to "mother Carey's chickens" which set the
precedent of not only multiple words, but the use of punctuation.

The good news is that everyone is too confused to DQ, at least so far -
and some defs have arrived. The bad news is that I won't be counting
DQ's in the morning before I leave (see above) - so I hereby declare
this round, using the word(s provided, as a GO.

Have at it. I'll be back around 8 PM this evening, when I have to move
my Thunderbird profile (along with incoming messages) from my Mac to a
Windows machine where Cory will deal with your submissions.

Until then I remain your dealer,

Chuck

PS. For another example of single parenthesis usage, see the UCSD
p-System operating system, which gave choices like:
F)iler, A)ssembler, Q)uit when the user was expected to press
the F, A, or Q keys. A nice, tight little OS, the p-System.
The last time I ran it was on a 486 some years ago (it was a character
based OS) and it ran like lightening. Booted up in 1 or 2 seconds.
Wonder what it would do on a quad core Pentium? Probably fall over itself.

- C.


Nancy Shepherdson wrote:
> So it's lown(e? Or low(n)e? Or lown(e)?
>
> Please clarify.
>
> Nancy
>

Jim Hart
June 13th, 2008, 02:55 AM
It's a tad confusing that on the Google Dixonary site this thread
seems to be part of the HERLE thread even though it has its own
pointer in the index.

Jim

Paul Keating
June 13th, 2008, 04:48 AM
That is because Chuck replied to Nancy's message "yes, nancygoat" and
changed the subject line. This is a handy way of not having to type the
group address in, but it has the disadvantage that it does not create a new
thread. Google keeps track of the in-reply-to tags and treats a series of
replies as a single thread. If the sender changes the subject Google notes
the fact, but doesn't treat it as changing the thread structure.

The home page lists separate subjects so that you can go directly to the
renamed message subtree, but the messages page preserves the thread
structure. It's a bit like the old CIS forums in that respect.

Unlike the old forums, Google doesn't offer thread editing facilities so I
can't see a way to fix this.

To make things clear to players who use the Google interface, it seems best
to create a fresh thread for each of announcement, defs and results.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hart"

> It's a tad confusing that on the Google Dixonary site this thread
> seems to be part of the HERLE thread even though it has its own
> pointer in the index.

Chuck
June 13th, 2008, 09:20 AM
Just to let you know - I'm still here. I've got 15 defs. I've been
wrestling with Cory and Thunderbird but in another half hour I'll give
up and deal by hand. I promise defs by noon in any case.

- Chuck

Chuck
June 13th, 2008, 10:27 AM
My version of Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (20080213) must be unusual in that
its inbox is just called INBOX, and there is an index for it called
INBOX.MSF.
And it's Portable Thunderbird, so maybe that's the problem. In any case,
even after I'd sorted out the Portable issues, and _which_ inbox Cory wanted
it still died every time I tried importing it as eMail, .txt, whatever.
This might have
been because 3 of the eMails were an undigestible lump with no CR/LF bytes,
a possible holdover from the Mac usage of the files, but I cleaned that
up and
still no go. And then I probably have an obsolete version of Cory
4.2.1.101 as
well. And then again, it's Friday the 13th. And this is the short
version, without
the searching for clean Cory files to replace potentially corrupted
ones, the attempt
to install a new Cory on an XP machine where I'd forgotten MSinstall
doesn't work
for some arcane reason, the successful install on a Win2K machine with
still no
improvement, etc. etc. etc. I finally inserted each of the 15 defs and
all is now well.
I hope the scoring of the round goes better, and beg your indulgence and
pardon for
the mess so far.
- your humble(d Dealer


There are a total of 16 definitions for LOWN(E. Please vote for two, by
public reply to this message, before deadline, which is 8:00 PM EDT on
Saturday, June 14, 2008, or 5:00 PM PDT .

1. A brief wide flash of light which sometimes follows a sunset viewed
across a large body of water.

2. Defendant's offical denial of charges brought by plaintiff.

3. A small circular lake surrounded by hills [see cwm & corrie;
shortened from _lowness_ mistaken to be a plural, hence may also be
lowne].

4. Loved; loving [ME].

5. Independent; self-sufficient. (obs.)

6. A smooth, treeless hill.

7. Headcheese.

8. var. of Loon.

9. _Archit._ The central block of an entablature.

10. A lightweight cotton fabric.

11. A yoke insert for a low-necked dress.

12. A useless bungler. Obsolete Scottish word that can be spelled with
or without the "e."

13. In 19th century rural Scotland, a poll tax levied on any male of
voting age who owned more than 10 sheep.

14. [arch. sp.] A very finely woven linen fabric.

15. Simplified musical notation for the theremin and some three-octave
synthesisers.

16. _obs., dial._ or _poet._ Distance or measurement from the highest
point downwards; lack of altitude; the quality of being
comparatively low; also _fig._

France International
June 13th, 2008, 11:27 AM
I'll go for 11 and 14.

Tim B
June 13th, 2008, 12:12 PM
1 and 14, please.

Best wishes,
Tim B.

Bill Hirst
June 13th, 2008, 02:02 PM
"The hills are alive with the sound of music": 6 and 15 please.

-Bill

Chuck
June 13th, 2008, 02:17 PM
Although the vote is in process, I would like to change the dealer's
email address.

emery*bellnet*ca (using the usual @ and . punctuation)

is an alternative address which is hosted by another ISP in a different
Canadian city. I used to keep a spare in Berkeley, Calif., but it
wasn't getting enough use for the expense. My current ISP,
bellcanadahosting.com, which hosts my domain tdi.ca, is currently
experiencing MORE difficulties. Their mailboxes, accessible by both
POP3 and web access, are currently malfunctioning in that neither POP3
clients nor web clients can delete received mail, or move it to another
folder. I am worried their attempts to fix this will discontinue their
mail service entirely. I had complained when this problem showed up
with POP3 about 3 weeks ago, but I was told to use client add-on
software to delete the duplicates in my POP3 client inbox. (sic.) This
is unrelated (I would guess) to their connection problems of Wednesday
night, but who knows what's up there. When I telephone I think I'm
getting through to another country entirely. Nobody there understands a
thing about TCP/IP, but boy can they read from a script. For hours if
necessary. At least Bell Canada's phones are still working. For the
moment.

I can access this alternative mailbox, if necessary, by using Compuserve
dial-up. If I can still find an access number for Toronto. If the
phones continue to work. Although somewhere I have a cell modem . . .

If you stop hearing from me, send postcards to 5 Ramsgate Road, Toronto,
Ontario, M8V 2H1, Canada. Or check my FaceBook, LinkedIn, MySpace, or
CircuSpace accounts. I'll probably be out in the back yard drinking a beer.

At the moment I have votes from Dodi and Mike. Nothing has arrived
since 12:27 PM Not even spam. That, in itself, is ominous.

So other than Dodi and Mike, please start using the above eMail for the
vote, and vote again if you've already sent a vote to the other address,
because who knows where that vote's gone. Probably to a call centre in
India.

Thanks for your patience,

Chuck

Chuck
June 13th, 2008, 02:50 PM
The first copy message has arrived at the new address, still nothing on
the old address.

Please, Please Please vote on the new address emery*bellnet*ca
(using the usual @ and . punctuation)

bellhostingcanada.com mailboxes are frozen, for the time being.

And it's June, already!

- Chuck

Guerri Stevens
June 13th, 2008, 07:24 PM
I vote for 13 and 16.

Guerri

Paul Keating
June 14th, 2008, 03:53 PM
I would have voted for the Barrs def, 3 were it not for the encyclopaedia
article in the ety. 8 is so like Dick Weltz's Dixon that I have to vote for
it. And 16 is very plausible.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

Tony Abell
June 14th, 2008, 05:07 PM
I'll take the straight-forward 4 and double it for 8.


> 4. Loved; loving [ME].

> 8. var. of Loon.

Chuck
June 14th, 2008, 07:14 PM
Well, it's been an interesting weekend so far.
Nice start last night with a Laurie Anderson concert.
Today I had 8-1/2 hours of CISSP computer security course,
and tomorrow another 8. Next weekend the final 16.
And for a while I had a D0, but it only lasted for the first half
of the votes or so.
I've had ISP problems off and on all week, with two different
ISP's affecting both access and email but in the end the
cork seems to have come out and all the emails arrived in time
for the vote.
I'm sorry for the tread confusion, and for the email fiasco,
and most of all for any aspersions on Coryphæus, which has brought
me through all of this in spite of all the problems I've caused
others and myself.

So here are the results, with my best wishes and apologies.

In round 1914, 2 players earned top spot with 5 points: they were Paul
Keating and Dick Weltz. Paul Keating's definition "_obs., dial._ or _poet._
Distance or measurement from the highest point downwards; lack of altitude;
the quality of being comparatively low; also _fig._" earned its author the
deal, and Dick Weltz can heave a sigh of relief that his standing in the
Rolling Scores saved him.

Tony Abell takes 2nd runner-up position with 4 points.

The true definition was 8: "var. of Loon." (The Shorter Oxford English
Dictionary on Historical Principles), which 3 perceptive players guessed.

1. A brief wide flash of light which sometimes follows a sunset viewed
across a large body of water.
Votes from: Widdis, Bourne
Submitted by: Crom, who scores natural 2.

2. Defendant's offical denial of charges brought by plaintiff.
No votes
Submitted by: Stevens.

3. A small circular lake surrounded by hills [see cwm & corrie;
shortened from _lowness_ mistaken to be a plural, hence may also be
lowne].
Vote from: Madnick
Submitted by: Barrs, who scores natural 1.

4. Loved; loving [ME].
Votes from: Schultz, Abell, Weltz
Submitted by: Shepherdson, who scores natural 3.

5. Independent; self-sufficient. (obs.)
No votes
Submitted by: Bourne.

6. A smooth, treeless hill.
Votes from: Hirst, Madnick
Submitted by: Abell, who scores 2 + 2, total 4.

7. Headcheese.
No votes
Submitted by: Carson.

8. var. of Loon.
Votes from: Keating, Abell, Weltz
Real definition from The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary on
Historical Principles

9. _Archit._ The central block of an entablature.
No votes
Submitted by: Schultz.

10. A lightweight cotton fabric.
No votes
Submitted by: Savage.

11. A yoke insert for a low-necked dress.
Votes from: Shefler, Crom
Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 2.

12. A useless bungler. Obsolete Scottish word that can be spelled with
or without the "e."
No votes
Submitted by: Madnick.

13. In 19th century rural Scotland, a poll tax levied on any male of
voting age who owned more than 10 sheep.
Votes from: Savage, Widdis, Stevens
Submitted by: Shefler, who scores natural 3.

14. [arch. sp.] A very finely woven linen fabric.
Votes from: Bourne, Shefler, Crom
Submitted by: Weltz, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.

15. Simplified musical notation for the theremin and some three-octave
synthesisers.
Vote from: Hirst
Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 1.

16. _obs., dial._ or _poet._ Distance or measurement from the highest
point downwards; lack of altitude; the quality of being
comparatively low; also _fig._
Votes from: Schultz, Keating, Savage, Stevens
Submitted by: Keating, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.

Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
Keating 16 8 & 16 3 2 5
Weltz 14 4 & 8 3 2 5
Abell 6 4 & 8 2 2 4
Shefler 13 11 & 14 3 0 3
Shepherdson 4 N/V 3 0 3
Crom 1 11 & 14 2 0 2
Widdis 11 1 & 13 2 0 2
Barrs 3 DQ 1 0 1
Hart 15 N/V 1 0 1
Bourne 5 1 & 14 0 0
Carson 7 N/V 0 0
Hirst 6 & 15 0 0
Madnick 12 3 & 6 0 0
Savage 10 13 & 16 0 0
Schultz 9 4 & 16 0 0
Stevens 2 13 & 16 0 0