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Judy Madnick
November 14th, 2006, 06:44 AM
----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Guerri Stevens" <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com>

<< the big hangup now
<< being that my new machine has no parallel printer connectors.

Have you checked the Web or your local computer-supply store for a USB-to-parallel-port adapter?

Judy Madnick

Dodi Schultz
November 14th, 2006, 11:03 AM
>> Fundamental rule for all support engineers - whether software or
>> hardware specialists - "If it ain't broke then don't fix it"

Johnny: AMEN!

--Dodi

Tim Lodge
November 14th, 2006, 12:11 PM
--- In coryphaeus (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Dodi Schultz <schultz@...> wrote:
>
>
> It looks now as if I will soon have to get something more recent
> than Win 3.1, which will not accommodate
> browsers released later than about five years ago. And I am beginning
> to suspect that I do actually need a newer browser.)
>

Dodi

If you are actually going to get a new computer then I'd suggest going
the whole hog - Win XP, Internet Explorer 7 or Mozilla 1.5+, MS Word
2003 or Wordperfect 10, etc, etc. You'll have several weeks of hell
getting it all to work as you want it to and learning the new software,
but after that you'll wonder why you didn't do it earlier.

-- Tim L

Wayne Scott, M.D.
November 14th, 2006, 12:43 PM
I'm with you, Guerri. I still use my DOS programs that work. I would
consider HOF to be a Remington portable typewriter, but using Word Perfect
in DOS is not HOF. It works. Autodealer works. I would mention that Dodi
makes a living using DOS software with which she is familiar. That's not
HOF, it's smart.

Ancient in Athens

People never lie so much as before an election, during a war, or after a
hunt.
-Otto von Bismarck


> [Original Message]
> From: Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com>
> To: <coryphaeus (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
> Date: 11/14/2006 4:39:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dixonary] OT sort of: Dealing
>
> Dodi, why do you say "hopelessly old-fashioned"? I don't care what
> anyone says, if it works it works and until it stops working or starts
> to become annoying, why switch? So what if it is old-fashioned!!
>
> This rant is brought to you by a hopelessly old-fashioned person with a
> new computer. I have some DOS software that works well for me and each
> time I upgrade my equipment it becomes more difficult to get it working
> on the new machine. The same is true for this one, the big hangup now
> being that my new machine has no parallel printer connectors. This could
> mean the end for some of my favorite software, but I am not giving up
> without a fight!
>
> Guerri, a.k.a. HOF
>
> Dodi Schultz wrote:
> > Well, Paul, among those who've said they use specific programs when they
> > deal: three players say they use Coryphaeus (assuming that you do, that
> > would be four), four use Dixomatic, and seven (including me) use the
> > hopelessly old-fashioned AutoDealer.
> >
> > --Dodi
> >
> >
> >
> >

Paul Keating
November 14th, 2006, 03:23 PM
As I was saying to Judy a few rounds back, Coryphæus itself is now looking
decidedly dated. It doesn't do things that people now take for granted, such
as refreshing its used-word list off the internet like Dixomatic.

I didn't write Coryphæus because I thought DOS programs were old-fashioned
(at the time I started work on it, in 1993, they weren't) but simply because
AD didn't let me do things that I wanted to do, or didn't let me do them
easily. If it had done, I would probably still be using it.

More than once I've had to give up using software that I really liked
because it didn't fit well in a changed world. Long filenames forced me to
give up Norton Commander (sigh) -- I couldn't continue to pretend they
didn't really matter. Going broadband forced me to give up Tapcis in favour
of WebView (ugh) -- I couldn't stay with dial-up indefinitely: doing so
would have entailed missing out on too much.

I have a 3½" drive. It still works. But I can't boot off it, it's too small
to back up files produced by modern software, and if I want to give someone
a file, they expect to get a CD, or they hand me a USB stick. I also
probably still have a slide rule somewhere, and I'm sure it still works too.
The fact that it, like the floppy drive, still does perfectly the job it was
designed to do is, alas, beside the point.

--
Paul Keating
The Hague

----- Original Message -----
From: Dodi Schultz
To: coryphaeus (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:03 PM
Subject: [Dixonary] OT sort of: Dealing



Guerri, obviously--well, I THOUGHT that cheek bulge was obvious--I wasn't
denigrating AutoDealer; as I said, I'm one of those who use it.

>> Paul, who DOES--I think--view it as old-fashioned, and who later
snickered when
>> he learned that I still use floppies ...

Tim Bourne
November 14th, 2006, 04:47 PM
> I would mention that Dodi
> makes a living using DOS software with which she is familiar. That's not
> HOF, it's smart.
>
I actually make at least part of my living _selling_ DOS software! There's
a nice freeware package called DOSBox that makes a modern PC nearly as
good as an old DOS PC.

Best wishes,

Tim B

Keno77773@aol.com
November 14th, 2006, 05:03 PM
What does HOF mean ?

guess who ?


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Keno77773@aol.com
November 14th, 2006, 05:06 PM
Ops I just found the answer.

I'm HOP :<)

Roberta


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Guerri Stevens
November 14th, 2006, 08:34 PM
I didn't think you were denigrating Auto Dealer. I was just commenting
on the "old fashioned" idea in general. Like you, I tend not to upgrade
unless forced or unless I absolutely am driven crazy by whatever I've got.

My new machine doesn't have a floppy drive, either. Another "downgrade".
Unless a file is very large, it is easier and faster to copy it to a
floppy than to a CD. (sigh) Tell the machine to copy something to a CD
and what it does is mark it as "waiting to be written". And you have to
say "go ahead and write it". What's the point?? Probably there is one,
but I wouldn't tell it to write if I didn't want it to write and right
now, please.

Guerri

Dodi Schultz wrote:
> Guerri, obviously--well, I THOUGHT that cheek bulge was obvious--I wasn't
> denigrating AutoDealer; as I said, I'm one of those who use it. (Paul, who
> DOES--I think--view it as old-fashioned, and who later snickered when he
> learned that I still use floppies, said he thought I was the only one.
> Actually, there are at least seven of us.)
>
> "Upgrades" are, in fact, frequently mere sidegrades or even downgrades.

Guerri Stevens
November 14th, 2006, 08:44 PM
Well, I finally got rid of my typewriters. I decided that keeping the
manual one to use when the power went out was ridiculous. And if the
power was on, then I would use the computer, not my electric typewriter.

Having said that, when you come right down to it, the only drawbacks to
a manual typewriter are correcting errors, being able to easily change
your mind about what you're saying, and making multiple copies. And
sometimes I wonder if we don't waste more time with formatting,
rewriting and rewriting and rewriting because we have a computer and can
do those things.

Guerri

Wayne Scott, M.D. wrote:
> I'm with you, Guerri. I still use my DOS programs that work. I would
> consider HOF to be a Remington portable typewriter, but using Word Perfect
> in DOS is not HOF. It works. Autodealer works. I would mention that Dodi
> makes a living using DOS software with which she is familiar. That's not
> HOF, it's smart.

Guerri Stevens
November 14th, 2006, 08:49 PM
I haven't looked for such an adapter. I think what I'd have to get is an
actual parallel port for the machine since the DOS programs in question
have to be able to address a parallel port. There are some software
workarounds, but I'm not sure it's worth taking the time to get them set up.

Guerri

Judy Madnick wrote:
> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------
> From: "Guerri Stevens" <guerri (AT) tapcis (DOT) com>
>
> << the big hangup now
> << being that my new machine has no parallel printer connectors.
>
> Have you checked the Web or your local computer-supply store for a USB-to-parallel-port adapter?
>
> Judy Madnick
>
>
>
>