Rnd 1556-QUOKKA DEFS UP

[Wayne Scott]

I'm sorry to be late but the world is closing in on me. Here are 18 in teresting definitions. 17 are from your warped minds. One is from my warped dictionary.
Get your votes for 2 posted here by 5 PM PDT tomorrow.

1. Albanian unit of currency.

2. a small Australian short-tailed wallaby, Setonix brachyurus (Nyungar)

3. a bowling game played primarily on the Indian subcontinent; a derivative of bocce ball.

4. a distich of Sanskrit verse consisting of two eight-syllable padas each.

5. (_Finn_) an expression of surprised dismay.

6. a board game of the late 19th C., played with wooden counters of multiple colors and having a complex system of scoring.

7. any of various South Asian hemipterus having shiny black backs with an axial white line.

8. a heavy waterproof sealskin fabric used for rain gear.

9. a one- or two-hole kayak used by the Aleut and various Alaskan Eskimo groups.

10. a sub-species of duikar (g.v.) with a faintly striped coat and spirally-
twisted horns.

11. an Australian aboriginal totem pole.

12. a sharp stick used as a knife to slice through a mango.

13. a natural path in a forest. [Iroquois]

14. a bully-off in Irish hurling.

15. [Ind.] a dark chocolate alcoholic beverage made from fermented cacao beans.

16. a recorderlike Andean flute having a notched mouthpiece.

17. an Australian marsupial rat.

18. the greated echidna.

Take you pick of the two you like best and post your votes here.
I hope to be better organized and can close the voting 15 5:00 PM PDT tomorrow, Friday, October 28. I think that will be 0100 Zulu, 29 October 2005.

Good luck, Wayne

[Hugo Kornelis]

Hi Wayne,

I don't believe any of these definition -- so that probably means that they
are all correct.

My votes are for these two:

1. Albanian unit of currency.

9. a one- or two-hole kayak used by the Aleut and various Alaskan
Eskimo groups.

Best, Hugo




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[Tim Bourne]

2 and 11, please

Tim B





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[Daniel Widdis]

Wayne, you're supposed to include the real def in the list.

In any case, I was entertained by 12 and 18.

[Wayne Scott]

I made at least one serious typo. I should have checked before I posted the list rather than waiting until I got home from lunch and a long business appointment.
Definition #7 should read:
"any of various South Asian hemipterous beetles having shiny black backs with an axial white line."

[Guerri Stevens]

I vote for 1 and 16.

Guerri



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[Tony Abell]

None of these looks even remotely right, but I'll take shots at 11 and
15.




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[Chuck Emery]

Wayne,

A very nice selection. I'll try:

3. a bowling game played primarily on the Indian subcontinent; a derivative
of bocce ball.

and

15. [Ind.] a dark chocolate alcoholic beverage made from fermented cacao
beans.

Thanks,

Chuck



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[Christopher Carson]

I'll award points to the authors of 7 and 8.

Chris




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[Wayne Scott]

I still can't get used to this format, and I have no idea if I have seen all of the votes. I have 15 voters.
The most votes, 5, went to the Concise Oxford Dictionary which will no be able to deal.
The most points were Judy Madnick with an unnatural 6 but Judy doesn't become the next dealer because she voted for her own definition. Tim Bourne with an unnatural 5 is the next dealer. There were a whole flock of people with 3 points as runners up.

1. Albanian unit of currency. Madnick who voted for 1 and 2.
Voted for by Kornelis, Madnick, Schultz and Stevens. 3
2. a small Australian short tailed wallaby, etc. Concise Oxford Dictionary
Voted for by Barre, Bourne, Madnick, Schultz and Wetzstein. 5
3. a bowling game played primarily on the Indian sub-continent. Shepherdson who
voted for 7 and 10. Voted for by Emery. 1
4.a distich of Sanskrit verse consisting of two eight-syllable padas each. Kornelis
who voted for 1 and 9. Voted for by Allen 1
5.(_Finn_) an expression of surprised dismay. Crom. Voted for my no one, but my
personal favorite. 0
6. a board game of the late 19th C., played with wooden counters of multiple
colors and having a complex system of scoring. Schultz who voted for 1 & 2.
Voted for by Allen. 2*+ 1 3
7. any of various South Asian hemipterus beetles having shiny black backs with
an axial white line. Abell who voted for 11 & 15. 2 dealer pts. Voted for by
Carson and Shepherdson. 2 + 2 4
8. a heavy waterproof sealskin fabric used for rain gear. Wetzstein who voted for
2 and 10. Voted for by Carson. 2*+ 1 3
9. a one- or two-hole kayak used by the Aleut and various Alaskan Eskimo groups.
Carson who voted for 7 & 8. Voted for by Kornelis. 1
10. a sub-species of duikar. Bourne who voted for 2* and 11. Voted for by Crom,
Shepherdson and Wetzstein. 2*+3 5
11. an Australian aboriginal totem pole. Lodge who didn't vote. Voted for by Abell,
Barrs and Bourne 3
12. a sharp stick used as a knife to slice through a mango. Allen who voted for 4
& 6. Voter for by Widdis. 1
13. a natural path in the forest. [Iroquois]. Savage who voted for 15 & 18. Voted
for by Crom. 1
14. a bully-off in Irish hurling. Barrs who voted for 2*& 11. Voted for by 0 *2
15. [Ind.] a dark chocolate alcoholic beverage made from fermentedd cacao beans.
Stevens who voted for 1 & 16. Voted for by Abell, Emery & Savage. 3
16. a recorderlike Andean flute having a notched mouthpiece. Widdis who voted for
12 & 18. Voted for by Stevens. 1
17. an Australian marsupial rat. Emery who voted for 3 and 15. Voted for by 0. 0
18. the greater echidna. Cunningham who voted for 0. Voted for by Savage &
Widdis 2

I have never dealt without AutoDealer. I'm sure I've made a jillion errors. You will tell me about them.

Take it away Tim Bourne.

[Tony Abell]

On 2005-10-29 at 00:25 Wayne Scott wrote:

WS> I still can't get used to this format, and I have no idea if I have seen
WS> all of the votes. I have 15 voters.
WS> The most votes, 5, went to the Concise Oxford Dictionary which will no
WS> be able to deal.
WS> The most points were Judy Madnick with an unnatural 6 but Judy doesn't
WS> become the next dealer because she voted for her own definition. Tim
WS> Bourne with an unnatural 5 is the next dealer. There were a whole flock
WS> of people with 3 points as runners up.

Oh, would that it were so simple.

For, in fact, Judy did NOT vote for her own definition; she voted 2 and
7, not 1 & 2. Unfortunately, 7 was my def, which gives me 3 natural
+ 2 dealer points, meaning I'm tied with Tim B. and Judy, barring any
further corrections.

Now, since the official rules don't mention dealer points, for the
purposes of breaking a tie they surely cannot exist, so it's between
Madnick and Bourne, and since their past 4 rolling totals are 8 and 5
respectively, it looks like Judy's deal, unless some other
interpretation of the rules applies.




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[Dave Cunningham]

Um -- you should note me as a DQ on this one ... and you made it "greated echidna" in the list which reminded a bit of romano cheese <g>.

Dave

[Tim Bourne]

> Now, since the official rules don't mention dealer points, for the
> purposes of breaking a tie they surely cannot exist, so it's between
> Madnick and Bourne, and since their past 4 rolling totals are 8 and 5
> respectively, it looks like Judy's deal, unless some other
> interpretation of the rules applies.
>
That seems right to me. Congratulations, Judy! Your deal!

Tim B





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[Tony Abell]

On 2005-10-29 at 05:56 John Barrs wrote:

JB> I agree with you, that dealer points are different from properly
JB> garnered points. I disagree with you that they don't exist. I would
JB> suggest that it is implicit that they are added into the
JB> 'unatural' category for the purposes of tie-breaking - under those
JB> circumstances they are almost covered by Paul's 9a

That's a sensible interpretation. However, since all three of the tied
scores were unnatural, we're back where we started: tied at three
natural apiece. Now, it happens that my rolling total is 10, which
would have made me the dealer. Therefore, I suggested that dealer
points should have even less weight than regular "unnatural" points
when breaking a tie, which I was free to do since there are no
official rules covering dealer points.

I had two ulterior motives: one, to humorously attempt to avoid the
deal; and two, to challenge the notion that the official rules are
sacrosanct and must not be altered. Frankly, I expected someone to
immediately notice the self-serving aspect of my suggestion and say,
"not so fast, there!".

I see that Judy has already dealt a new word, so it's moot, now.




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[Daniel Widdis]

and you made it "greated echidna" in the listWhich is why I voted for it. I figured the only typos would be in the ones Wayne actually wrote, which should have only been the real one.

[Daniel B. Widdis]

Tony Abell wrote:
>
> I suggested that dealer
> points should have even less weight than regular "unnatural" points
> when breaking a tie, which I was free to do since there are no
> official rules covering dealer points.
I think if there is any rule, official or otherwise, concerning dealer
points, it ought to be "Assignment of dealer points will not affect the
determination of the dealer as determined elsewhere in the rules.

In theory, a dealer could award enough dealer points to a player to give
them the outright lead. Should that player then deal? I don't think
so. Historically, we have mostly used dealer points when the dealer has
made an error which is presumed to have cost a player votes.
(Ironically, sometimes typos have the opposite affect, attracting votes
to otherwise uninteresting defs.)
>
> I had two ulterior motives: one, to humorously attempt to avoid the
> deal;
Your attempt at humor is belatedly noted, but your suggestion made so
much sense I missed the joke. :)
> and two, to challenge the notion that the official rules are
> sacrosanct and must not be altered.
I don't think this case has any affect on the current state of opinion
in that regard.

--
Dan



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