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Jim Hart
April 11th, 2016, 10:00 AM
Has anyone else here tried Words With Friends and been totally annoyed with
its dictionaries? I finally installed WWF on my iphone recently, and
started playing against the machine to get the hang of it. I soon found
it's like playing Scrabble against one of those irritating people who carry
a list of all the obscure 2 and 3-letter words - only worse.

WWF says "All words labeled as a part of speech (including those listed of
foreign origin, and as archaic, obsolete, colloquial, slang, etc.) are
permitted with the exception of the following: proper nouns (words always
capitalized), abbreviations, prefixes and suffixes standing alone or words
requiring a hyphen or an apostrophe."

There's a fuzzy line between foreign and foreign origin, depending I guess
on how anglicized the word is. No one would dispute DEBUT. Personally I
wouldn't play OEIL but in WWF it's allowed, presumably because we can drop
oeil-de-bouef or trompe l'oeil into our conversations. I'm sure it would
allow FILET and if that why not MIGNON? I haven't tested either.

ITD had me stumped when I first saw it. Surely that's not a word. Urban
Dictionary lists it as an acronym for inner thigh distance (don't ask) but
WWF says it doesn't allow abbreviations. Then later it played HAVENT. So
maybe WWF doesn't allow words requiring an apostrophe except when it
decides the apostrophe is optional, maybe under the colloquial rule. And
that, I suspect, is determined by tweeters and texters.

OTOH (which should not be allowed) even though WWF supposedly allows
"archaic, obsolete" words it wouldn't accept ENOW from me. And that was in
its co-called British dictionary.

Despite this, I've still won every game against the machine, except one
where it got lucky with a 7-letter word on the penultimate turn. It may
have an enormous dictionary but I have strategy,

Jim


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France International/Mike Shefler
April 11th, 2016, 10:10 AM
I've never tried it, but does it penalize you for trying words that aren't in its dictionary? Have you tried any of the 2699+ words in our list?



On 4/11/2016 11:00 AM, Jim Hart wrote:




Has anyone else here tried Words With Friends and been totally annoyed with its dictionaries? I finally installed WWF on my iphone recently, and started playing against the machine to get the hang of it. I soon found it's like playing Scrabble against one of those irritating people who carry a list of all the obscure 2 and 3-letter words - only worse.

WWF says "All words labeled as a part of speech (including those listed of foreign origin, and as archaic, obsolete, colloquial, slang, etc.) are permitted with the exception of the following: proper nouns (words always capitalized), abbreviations, prefixes and suffixes standing alone or words requiring a hyphen or an apostrophe."

There's a fuzzy line between foreign and foreign origin, depending I guess on how anglicized the word is. No one would dispute DEBUT.Â* Personally I wouldn't play OEIL but in WWF it's allowed, presumably because we can drop oeil-de-bouef or trompe l'oeil into our conversations. I'm sure it would allow FILET and if that why not MIGNON? I haven't tested either.

ITD had me stumped when I first saw it. Surely that's not a word. Urban Dictionary lists it as an acronym for inner thigh distance (don't ask) but WWF says it doesn't allow abbreviations. Then later it played HAVENT. So maybe WWF doesn't allow words requiring an apostrophe except when it decides the apostrophe is optional, maybe under the colloquial rule. And that, I suspect, is determined by tweeters and texters.

OTOH (which should not be allowed) even though WWF supposedly allows "archaic, obsolete" words it wouldn't accept ENOW from me. And that was in its co-called British dictionary.

Despite this, I've still won every game against the machine, except one where it got lucky with a 7-letter word on the penultimate turn. It may have an enormous dictionary but I have strategy,

Jim




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Daniel Widdis
April 11th, 2016, 10:35 AM
I play it frequently with a few of my friends.

I have not been annoyed with its dictionaries, because (a) I don't know
enough obscure words that aren't in its dictionary, and (2) I've found
most of the two-letter words, or odd words with Q and Z, through trial
and error. Unlike Scrabble, there's no penalty for wondering if
something is a word and getting lots of points for it.

I didn't know there was an option to play the machine... then again,
it's more fun with friends, moving about once or twice per day during
breaks.

Dan

On 4/11/16 8:00 AM, Jim Hart wrote:
> Has anyone else here tried Words With Friends and been totally annoyed
> with its dictionaries? I finally installed WWF on my iphone recently,
> and started playing against the machine to get the hang of it. I soon
> found it's like playing Scrabble against one of those irritating
> people who carry a list of all the obscure 2 and 3-letter words - only
> worse.
>
> WWF says "All words labeled as a part of speech (including those
> listed of foreign origin, and as archaic, obsolete, colloquial, slang,
> etc.) are permitted with the exception of the following: proper nouns
> (words always capitalized), abbreviations, prefixes and suffixes
> standing alone or words requiring a hyphen or an apostrophe."
>
> There's a fuzzy line between foreign and foreign origin, depending I
> guess on how anglicized the word is. No one would dispute DEBUT.
> Personally I wouldn't play OEIL but in WWF it's allowed, presumably
> because we can drop oeil-de-bouef or trompe l'oeil into our
> conversations. I'm sure it would allow FILET and if that why not
> MIGNON? I haven't tested either.
>
> ITD had me stumped when I first saw it. Surely that's not a word.
> Urban Dictionary lists it as an acronym for inner thigh distance
> (don't ask) but WWF says it doesn't allow abbreviations. Then later it
> played HAVENT. So maybe WWF doesn't allow words requiring an
> apostrophe except when it decides the apostrophe is optional, maybe
> under the colloquial rule. And that, I suspect, is determined by
> tweeters and texters.
>
> OTOH (which should not be allowed) even though WWF supposedly allows
> "archaic, obsolete" words it wouldn't accept ENOW from me. And that
> was in its co-called British dictionary.
>
> Despite this, I've still won every game against the machine, except
> one where it got lucky with a 7-letter word on the penultimate turn.
> It may have an enormous dictionary but I have strategy,
>
> Jim
>

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Jim Hart
April 11th, 2016, 10:43 AM
You can try as many words as you like before actually playing one. Moreover
there is an optional bar graph which indicates how good your word is, so if
you are feeling pleased with your 30-point word and the meter only goes
half way you might want to look around for a 60-point alternative.

I haven't compared my words with the Dixonary list but I have found a few
new words that could be worth keeping for a future deal. Assuming they are
found in a legitimate dictionary of course. I won't be dealing ITD.


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Jim Hart
April 11th, 2016, 10:58 AM
Agree it's better with real people, and good that you can play as fast or
slow as you like.

In my version under "Create a game" there is an option for Solo. The
machine makes its move in 2 minutes but you still get as long as you like.
And if you play offline you avoid the ads (I'm using the free version).


On Tuesday, 12 April 2016 01:35:10 UTC+10, Dan Widdis wrote:
>
> I play it frequently with a few of my friends.
>
> I have not been annoyed with its dictionaries, because (a) I don't know
> enough obscure words that aren't in its dictionary, and (2) I've found
> most of the two-letter words, or odd words with Q and Z, through trial
> and error. Unlike Scrabble, there's no penalty for wondering if
> something is a word and getting lots of points for it.
>
> I didn't know there was an option to play the machine... then again,
> it's more fun with friends, moving about once or twice per day during
> breaks.
>
> Dan
>
> On 4/11/16 8:00 AM, Jim Hart wrote:
> > Has anyone else here tried Words With Friends and been totally annoyed
> > with its dictionaries? I finally installed WWF on my iphone recently,
> > and started playing against the machine to get the hang of it. I soon
> > found it's like playing Scrabble against one of those irritating
> > people who carry a list of all the obscure 2 and 3-letter words - only
> > worse.
> >
> > WWF says "All words labeled as a part of speech (including those
> > listed of foreign origin, and as archaic, obsolete, colloquial, slang,
> > etc.) are permitted with the exception of the following: proper nouns
> > (words always capitalized), abbreviations, prefixes and suffixes
> > standing alone or words requiring a hyphen or an apostrophe."
> >
> > There's a fuzzy line between foreign and foreign origin, depending I
> > guess on how anglicized the word is. No one would dispute DEBUT.
> > Personally I wouldn't play OEIL but in WWF it's allowed, presumably
> > because we can drop oeil-de-bouef or trompe l'oeil into our
> > conversations. I'm sure it would allow FILET and if that why not
> > MIGNON? I haven't tested either.
> >
> > ITD had me stumped when I first saw it. Surely that's not a word.
> > Urban Dictionary lists it as an acronym for inner thigh distance
> > (don't ask) but WWF says it doesn't allow abbreviations. Then later it
> > played HAVENT. So maybe WWF doesn't allow words requiring an
> > apostrophe except when it decides the apostrophe is optional, maybe
> > under the colloquial rule. And that, I suspect, is determined by
> > tweeters and texters.
> >
> > OTOH (which should not be allowed) even though WWF supposedly allows
> > "archaic, obsolete" words it wouldn't accept ENOW from me. And that
> > was in its co-called British dictionary.
> >
> > Despite this, I've still won every game against the machine, except
> > one where it got lucky with a 7-letter word on the penultimate turn.
> > It may have an enormous dictionary but I have strategy,
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
>

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