[Dixonary] OT: Windows Easy Transfer

[Jim Hart]

I will shortly be helping a friend transfer data from her old XP computer
to one with Windows 8.1. Having done a similar transfer to my W7 laptop a
few years back, I confidently predicted this could be easily done with
Windows Easy Transfer. Now it seems WET will work from XP to W8 but not to
W8.1. Any suggestions about a simple alternative?

The owner is a low-volume user so the data is mainly photos (Picasa),
emails (Outlook) and documents (Word), which are almost certainly in the
standard locations, e.g. MyDocuments. So the easiest approach seems to be
to simply copy the relevant folders via an external hard disk. Is there any
problem in doing this? If I copy the entire MyDocuments folder in one move
will all its subfolders be retained? And where does Outlook hold all its
mail?

I used to be good at this kind of stuff; now I feel I'm showing my age.

Jim




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[Judy Madnick]

Does it make sense to go to Windows 8 with WET...and then do the "simpler" update to 8.1 without WET?

Judy



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Dated: 11/2/2015 6:57:05 AM
Subject: [Dixonary] OT: Windows Easy Transfer


I will shortly be helping a friend transfer data from her old XP computer to one with Windows 8.1. Having done a similar transfer to my W7 laptop a few years back, I confidently predicted this could be easily done with Windows Easy Transfer. Now it seems WET will work from XP to W8 but not to W8.1. Any suggestions about a simple alternative?

The owner is a low-volume user so the data is mainly photos (Picasa), emails (Outlook) and documents (Word), which are almost certainly in the standard locations, e.g. MyDocuments. So the easiest approach seems to be to simply copy the relevant folders via an external hard disk. Is there any problem in doing this? If I copy the entire MyDocuments folder in one move will all its subfolders be retained? And where does Outlook hold all its mail?

I used to be good at this kind of stuff; now I feel I'm showing my age.

Jim






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[Christopher Carson]

Jim,

Copying the My Documents should get all of the sub folders. Outlook depends somewhat on what the user's configuration is but the link below will tell you more than you probably want to know about file locations.

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Locating-the-Outlook-data-files-0996ece3-57c6-49bc-977b-0d1892e2aacc

Chris
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> On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Jim Hart <jfshart (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> I will shortly be helping a friend transfer data from her old XP computer to one with Windows 8.1. Having done a similar transfer to my W7 laptop a few years back, I confidently predicted this could be easily done with Windows Easy Transfer. Now it seems WET will work from XP to W8 but not to W8.1. Any suggestions about a simple alternative?
>
> The owner is a low-volume user so the data is mainly photos (Picasa), emails (Outlook) and documents (Word), which are almost certainly in the standard locations, e.g. MyDocuments. So the easiest approach seems to be to simply copy the relevant folders via an external hard disk. Is there any problem in doing this? If I copy the entire MyDocuments folder in one move will all its subfolders be retained? And where does Outlook hold all its mail?
>
> I used to be good at this kind of stuff; now I feel I'm showing my age.
>
> Jim
>
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[Jim Hart]

Judy, I guess that would make sense if we were updating on the same
machine but this is a new computer with 8.1 pre-installed so I'm not
touching that side of things. I think I would rather copy data one file at
a time than embark on an unnecessary Windows upgrade.

Jim


On Tuesday, 3 November 2015 00:45:39 UTC+11, Judy Madnick wrote:
>
> Does it make sense to go to Windows 8 with WET...and then do the "simpler"
> update to 8.1 without WET?
>
> Judy
>
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> From: "Jim Hart" <jfs... (AT) gmail (DOT) com <javascript:>>
> To: dixo... (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com <javascript:>;
> Dated: 11/2/2015 6:57:05 AM
> Subject: [Dixonary] OT: Windows Easy Transfer
>
> I will shortly be helping a friend transfer data from her old XP computer
> to one with Windows 8.1. Having done a similar transfer to my W7 laptop a
> few years back, I confidently predicted this could be easily done with
> Windows Easy Transfer. Now it seems WET will work from XP to W8 but not to
> W8.1. Any suggestions about a simple alternative?
>
> The owner is a low-volume user so the data is mainly photos (Picasa),
> emails (Outlook) and documents (Word), which are almost certainly in the
> standard locations, e.g. MyDocuments. So the easiest approach seems to be
> to simply copy the relevant folders via an external hard disk. Is there any
> problem in doing this? If I copy the entire MyDocuments folder in one move
> will all its subfolders be retained? And where does Outlook hold all its
> mail?
>
> I used to be good at this kind of stuff; now I feel I'm showing my age.
>
> Jim
>
>
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[Jim Hart]

Thanks Chris. You're right, it is more than wanted to know which just shows
how much there is to trip up on. However it reminded me that the emails all
come from a single gmail account, so gmail effectively is a ready-made
backup. If we just configure the new Outlook to look at the gmail address
hopefully it will all take care of itself. That's assuming it's an IMAP
connection and I'm pretty sure it is. The other Outlook files
(appointments, calendar etc) are barely used, if at all, so failing to
transfer those won't matter.

MyDocuments should take care of the rest... I hope.

Jim







On Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:07:51 UTC+11, Chris wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
> Copying the My Documents should get all of the sub folders. Outlook
> depends somewhat on what the user's configuration is but the link below
> will tell you more than you probably want to know about file locations.
>
>
> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Locating-the-Outlook-data-files-0996ece3-57c6-49bc-977b-0d1892e2aacc
>
> Chris
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Jim Hart <jfs... (AT) gmail (DOT) com <javascript:>>
> wrote:
>
> I will shortly be helping a friend transfer data from her old XP computer
> to one with Windows 8.1. Having done a similar transfer to my W7 laptop a
> few years back, I confidently predicted this could be easily done with
> Windows Easy Transfer. Now it seems WET will work from XP to W8 but not to
> W8.1. Any suggestions about a simple alternative?
>
> The owner is a low-volume user so the data is mainly photos (Picasa),
> emails (Outlook) and documents (Word), which are almost certainly in the
> standard locations, e.g. MyDocuments. So the easiest approach seems to be
> to simply copy the relevant folders via an external hard disk. Is there any
> problem in doing this? If I copy the entire MyDocuments folder in one move
> will all its subfolders be retained? And where does Outlook hold all its
> mail?
>
> I used to be good at this kind of stuff; now I feel I'm showing my age.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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[Christopher Carson]

You're right. That makes it easy. As long as Outlook just services IMAP or Exchange server accounts, all of the mail will reside on the server so the problem is simplified.

It sounds as though you're declining with a pretty simple situation there so it should work out pretty smoothly.

Good luck,

Chris

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> On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Jim Hart <jfshart (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Chris. You're right, it is more than wanted to know which just shows how much there is to trip up on. However it reminded me that the emails all come from a single gmail account, so gmail effectively is a ready-made backup. If we just configure the new Outlook to look at the gmail address hopefully it will all take care of itself. That's assuming it's an IMAP connection and I'm pretty sure it is. The other Outlook files (appointments, calendar etc) are barely used, if at all, so failing to transfer those won't matter.
>
> MyDocuments should take care of the rest... I hope.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:07:51 UTC+11, Chris wrote:
>> Jim,
>>
>> Copying the My Documents should get all of the sub folders. Outlook depends somewhat on what the user's configuration is but the link below will tell you more than you probably want to know about file locations.
>>
>> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Locating-the-Outlook-data-files-0996ece3-57c6-49bc-977b-0d1892e2aacc
>>
>> Chris
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Jim Hart <jfs... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I will shortly be helping a friend transfer data from her old XP computer to one with Windows 8.1. Having done a similar transfer to my W7 laptop a few years back, I confidently predicted this could be easily done with Windows Easy Transfer. Now it seems WET will work from XP to W8 but not to W8.1. Any suggestions about a simple alternative?
>>>
>>> The owner is a low-volume user so the data is mainly photos (Picasa), emails (Outlook) and documents (Word), which are almost certainly in the standard locations, e.g. MyDocuments. So the easiest approach seems to be to simply copy the relevant folders via an external hard disk. Is there any problem in doing this? If I copy the entire MyDocuments folder in one move will all its subfolders be retained? And where does Outlook hold all its mail?
>>>
>>> I used to be good at this kind of stuff; now I feel I'm showing my age.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[Jim Hart]

Thanks for the confirmation and encouragement... though I don't feel like
I'm declining :)

Jim


On Wednesday, 4 November 2015 00:08:18 UTC+11, Chris wrote:
>
> You're right. That makes it easy. As long as Outlook just services IMAP or
> Exchange server accounts, all of the mail will reside on the server so the
> problem is simplified.
>
> It sounds as though you're declining with a pretty simple situation there
> so it should work out pretty smoothly.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Chris
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Jim Hart <jfs... (AT) gmail (DOT) com <javascript:>>
> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Chris. You're right, it is more than wanted to know which just
> shows how much there is to trip up on. However it reminded me that the
> emails all come from a single gmail account, so gmail effectively is a
> ready-made backup. If we just configure the new Outlook to look at the
> gmail address hopefully it will all take care of itself. That's assuming
> it's an IMAP connection and I'm pretty sure it is. The other Outlook files
> (appointments, calendar etc) are barely used, if at all, so failing to
> transfer those won't matter.
>
> MyDocuments should take care of the rest... I hope.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:07:51 UTC+11, Chris wrote:
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Copying the My Documents should get all of the sub folders. Outlook
>> depends somewhat on what the user's configuration is but the link below
>> will tell you more than you probably want to know about file locations.
>>
>>
>> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Locating-the-Outlook-data-files-0996ece3-57c6-49bc-977b-0d1892e2aacc
>>
>> Chris
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Jim Hart <jfs... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>>
>> I will shortly be helping a friend transfer data from her old XP computer
>> to one with Windows 8.1. Having done a similar transfer to my W7 laptop a
>> few years back, I confidently predicted this could be easily done with
>> Windows Easy Transfer. Now it seems WET will work from XP to W8 but not to
>> W8.1. Any suggestions about a simple alternative?
>>
>> The owner is a low-volume user so the data is mainly photos (Picasa),
>> emails (Outlook) and documents (Word), which are almost certainly in the
>> standard locations, e.g. MyDocuments. So the easiest approach seems to be
>> to simply copy the relevant folders via an external hard disk. Is there any
>> problem in doing this? If I copy the entire MyDocuments folder in one move
>> will all its subfolders be retained? And where does Outlook hold all its
>> mail?
>>
>> I used to be good at this kind of stuff; now I feel I'm showing my age.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[Christopher Carson]

Ha! Good old autocorrect although I'm not sure how dealing morphed into declining.

Chris

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> On Nov 3, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Jim Hart <jfshart (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the confirmation and encouragement... though I don't feel like I'm declining :)
>
> Jim
>
>
>> On Wednesday, 4 November 2015 00:08:18 UTC+11, Chris wrote:
>> You're right. That makes it easy. As long as Outlook just services IMAP or Exchange server accounts, all of the mail will reside on the server so the problem is simplified.
>>
>> It sounds as though you're declining with a pretty simple situation there so it should work out pretty smoothly.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Jim Hart <jfs... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Chris. You're right, it is more than wanted to know which just shows how much there is to trip up on. However it reminded me that the emails all come from a single gmail account, so gmail effectively is a ready-made backup. If we just configure the new Outlook to look at the gmail address hopefully it will all take care of itself. That's assuming it's an IMAP connection and I'm pretty sure it is. The other Outlook files (appointments, calendar etc) are barely used, if at all, so failing to transfer those won't matter.
>>>
>>> MyDocuments should take care of the rest... I hope.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:07:51 UTC+11, Chris wrote:
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Copying the My Documents should get all of the sub folders. Outlook depends somewhat on what the user's configuration is but the link below will tell you more than you probably want to know about file locations.
>>>>
>>>> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Locating-the-Outlook-data-files-0996ece3-57c6-49bc-977b-0d1892e2aacc
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Jim Hart <jfs... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I will shortly be helping a friend transfer data from her old XP computer to one with Windows 8.1. Having done a similar transfer to my W7 laptop a few years back, I confidently predicted this could be easily done with Windows Easy Transfer. Now it seems WET will work from XP to W8 but not to W8.1. Any suggestions about a simple alternative?
>>>>>
>>>>> The owner is a low-volume user so the data is mainly photos (Picasa), emails (Outlook) and documents (Word), which are almost certainly in the standard locations, e.g. MyDocuments. So the easiest approach seems to be to simply copy the relevant folders via an external hard disk. Is there any problem in doing this? If I copy the entire MyDocuments folder in one move will all its subfolders be retained? And where does Outlook hold all its mail?
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to be good at this kind of stuff; now I feel I'm showing my age.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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[Jim Hart]

My Thunderbird spillchucker still attempts to change Zuckerberg into
something not beginning with Z and not repeatable on a family-values forum
like this.

Jim

On Wednesday, 4 November 2015 12:32:28 UTC+11, Chris wrote:
>
> Ha! Good old autocorrect although I'm not sure how dealing morphed into
> declining.
>
> Chris
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 3, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Jim Hart <jfs... (AT) gmail (DOT) com <javascript:>>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the confirmation and encouragement... though I don't feel like
> I'm declining :)
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Wednesday, 4 November 2015 00:08:18 UTC+11, Chris wrote:
>>
>> You're right. That makes it easy. As long as Outlook just services IMAP
>> or Exchange server accounts, all of the mail will reside on the server so
>> the problem is simplified.
>>
>> It sounds as though you're declining with a pretty simple situation there
>> so it should work out pretty smoothly.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Jim Hart <jfs... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Chris. You're right, it is more than wanted to know which just
>> shows how much there is to trip up on. However it reminded me that the
>> emails all come from a single gmail account, so gmail effectively is a
>> ready-made backup. If we just configure the new Outlook to look at the
>> gmail address hopefully it will all take care of itself. That's assuming
>> it's an IMAP connection and I'm pretty sure it is. The other Outlook files
>> (appointments, calendar etc) are barely used, if at all, so failing to
>> transfer those won't matter.
>>
>> MyDocuments should take care of the rest... I hope.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 3 November 2015 04:07:51 UTC+11, Chris wrote:
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Copying the My Documents should get all of the sub folders. Outlook
>>> depends somewhat on what the user's configuration is but the link below
>>> will tell you more than you probably want to know about file locations.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Locating-the-Outlook-data-files-0996ece3-57c6-49bc-977b-0d1892e2aacc
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Jim Hart <jfs... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I will shortly be helping a friend transfer data from her old XP
>>> computer to one with Windows 8.1. Having done a similar transfer to my W7
>>> laptop a few years back, I confidently predicted this could be easily done
>>> with Windows Easy Transfer. Now it seems WET will work from XP to W8 but
>>> not to W8.1. Any suggestions about a simple alternative?
>>>
>>> The owner is a low-volume user so the data is mainly photos (Picasa),
>>> emails (Outlook) and documents (Word), which are almost certainly in the
>>> standard locations, e.g. MyDocuments. So the easiest approach seems to be
>>> to simply copy the relevant folders via an external hard disk. Is there any
>>> problem in doing this? If I copy the entire MyDocuments folder in one move
>>> will all its subfolders be retained? And where does Outlook hold all its
>>> mail?
>>>
>>> I used to be good at this kind of stuff; now I feel I'm showing my age.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[Dodi Schultz]

I'm replying just to see what my somewhat elderly version of Tbird attempts
to do with it.


On 11/3/2015 9:20 PM, Jim Hart wrote:
> My Thunderbird spillchucker still attempts to change Zuckerberg into
> something not beginning with Z and not repeatable on a family-values
> forum like this.
>
> Jim

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[Jim Hart]

It doesn't recognise spillchucker either.



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