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fhaber
October 7th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Slightly OT, but if you've had trouble reaching links this week, or getting some of your email, it may be because of a little peering tiff between two backbone carriers. For Instance, {this} (http://news.zdnet.com/Blackout+shows+Net%27s+fragility/2100-9588_22-5890424.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=zdnn)

(Wednesday was hell here - both Molly and I had to do lots of web research, and treacle was the name of the game.)

"What was designed to resist a nuclear holocaust is easily subverted by greed" -Kropotkin

Judy G. Russell
October 7th, 2005, 05:31 PM
"What was designed to resist a nuclear holocaust is easily subverted by greed" -Kropotkin<sigh>...

Jeff
October 8th, 2005, 12:25 PM
Thanks. That would explain what was happening to me, even here. It felt like I was back to dialup.

Gary Maltzen
October 8th, 2005, 01:36 PM
The one thing I failed to see was any indication of an attempt on the part of either party to *discuss* the issue before resorting to childish behavior.

fhaber
October 9th, 2005, 10:55 AM
Ah, but they probably both posted self-justifying open letters on their sites. Isn't that the current flackquer's* version of King of the Hill?

{*a coinage of my warped mind for marketdroid, etc.}

Gary Maltzen
October 9th, 2005, 12:29 PM
Since they have a significant impact on national infrastructure, my knee-jerk reaction was to suggest that Level3 and Cogent be nationalized. If nothing else that would certainly motivate other infrastructure organizations to seek resolution rather than escalation.

fhaber
October 10th, 2005, 10:12 AM
>Level3 and Cogent be nationalized

And when Pres. Hillary reinstitutes the Coal Board, gives us National Health, and while we're marching in the General Strike, let's discuss appointing Ralph to be Web Czar.

Gary Maltzen
October 10th, 2005, 04:15 PM
> appointing Ralph to be Web Czar.

an interesting idea - that would certainly motivate the NSPs.

Peter Creasey
October 10th, 2005, 04:27 PM
motivate the NSPs.

Gary, Let's see now...

Nat'l Ski Patrol?
New Surf Project?
Nebraska State Patrol?
Ngram Statistic Package?

Oh, finally, Network Service Providers, I assume.

Gary Maltzen
October 11th, 2005, 06:49 PM
Yes; the NSPs are to the ISPs what the ISPs are to us mere users.

Peter Creasey
October 12th, 2005, 08:50 AM
Yes; the NSPs are to the ISPs what the ISPs are to us mere users.

Gary, For some reason the term just did not come to mind. Thanks for the relational definition.

rlohmann
October 25th, 2005, 06:23 PM
<bowing graciously>

A well considered nomination, for which we will cause 13 demerits to be stricken from your Permanent Record.

The new Internet will be somewhat less chaotic than the old. Instead of allowing access to everything, and blocking individual websites, we will block everything, with the exception of the sites appended below, and license any further website access.

Everyone will have access to http://www.nationalreview.com/ (http://), http://www.faz.net/ (http://), and http://www.lefigaro.fr/ (http://), and nothing more. We here at the VRWC will then accept individual applications for access to other websites, which applications we will refer for evaluation to our Ministry of Punishments.

We look forward to a New and Better Internet.

<sneering joyfully>

Lindsey
October 25th, 2005, 10:36 PM
"Keep Big Brother's hands off the Internet"

--John Ashcroft, 1997 (http://www.boingboing.net/2002/11/25/1997_john_ashcroft_s.html)

Dan in Saint Louis
October 26th, 2005, 10:33 AM
"Keep Big Brother's hands off the Internet"--John Ashcroft, 1997 (http://www.boingboing.net/2002/11/25/1997_john_ashcroft_s.html)
"We have become morally ill because we have become accustomed to saying one thing and thinking another." --Vaclav Havel, 1 Jan 1990 <http://www.landiss.com/civillib.htm#1Jan90>

Lindsey
October 26th, 2005, 04:56 PM
"We have become morally ill because we have become accustomed to saying one thing and thinking another." --Vaclav Havel, 1 Jan 1990
What?! You mean that's not the way the universe is supposed to work??!! <clunk>

--Lindsey

Dan in Saint Louis
October 27th, 2005, 10:06 AM
What?! You mean that's not the way the universe is supposed to work??!!
For those not familiar with middle-European politics after the fall of the Wall, Vaclav Havel was (on the occasion of his inaugural state-of-the-union address) chastising his own countrymen for not being more outspoken about the policies of the Communist government of the previous 41 years. See also http://landiss.com/civillib.htm

Dick may know more?