[Dixonary] Round 2566:BAUSE [Results] [Archive]

Paul Keating

December 11th, 2014, 11:39 AM

The 1887 OED definition of this word comes with the closest thing to a
21st-century legal disclaimer that I think Murray ever penned:

‘To kiss’ (is Halliwell's explanation
<http://books.google.nl/books?id=08kRAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA151&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U1pDn14S3DbmaD-XigRYn2YXAjQ6w&ci=76%2C1121%2C425%2C61&edge=0>);
but cf. BAWZE v.

Note the quotes, the shifting of blame, and explanation in place of
definition.

And to save you the trouble of looking it up, Murray defines his proposed
alternative cognate bawze as ‘to exclaim, shout’.

Well, make up your mind: are you kissing the girl, or yelling at her?

I didn’t want to post such an obviously contentious def, so I planned
instead simply to post Halliwell’s to kiss, omitting Murray’s wholly
conjectural etymology (from L. bāsiāre).

It was not too much of an unpleasant surprise when Johnny Barrs came up
with the same definition. My difficulty was that his def came with an
etymology (from F. baiser) that struck me as unlikely as Murray’s was
conjectural. I offered Johnny the option of accepting the combined def to
kiss with no etymology, and he did. Tim Lodge was the only one to guess it.

With those two points he shares top spot, at 5 points, with Dodi Schultz.
But her definition earned 5 natural points.

Dave Cunningham takes runner-up position with 4 points.

1. a bushy tail, as that of a squirrel or chipmunk

Vote from: Shefler

Submitted by: Mallach, who scores natural 1.

2. a chair with one arm, similar to a chaise longue

Votes from: Shefler and Weltz

Submitted by: Knoblauch, who scores natural 2.

3. a dry cold north wind in southeastern France

Votes from: Abell, Bourne and Knoblauch

Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 3.

4. to dull a shiny surface with sandpaper or a similar abrasive

Votes from: Hale and Weltz

Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 2.

5. a folk method for determining the gender of a child still in the womb

No votes

Submitted by: Hale.

6. gold-bearing silt from mine tailings that was rich enough to warrant
being reprocessed

Votes from: Hale and Mallach

Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 2.

7. Bav. sl. an illegal beer hall

Votes from: Barrs, Mallach, Schultz and Widdis

Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 4.

8. an intermediate high point, not a pass, on a path or track across
mountains

Vote from: Cunningham

Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 1.

9. to kiss

Vote from: Lodge

Real definition from Halliwell: Dictionary of archaic and provincial words
(1850)

Submitted by: Barrs, who scores natural 1.

10. lively; vivacious

Vote from: Widdis

Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 1.

11. to loudly hawk goods on the street; to beg

Vote from: Knoblauch

Submitted by: Shepherdson, who scores natural 1.

12. low-frequency sound emitted by large transformers and electrical
substations

Votes from: Hart and Stevens

Submitted by: Shefler, who scores natural 2.

13. a partridge native to Nepal

No votes

Submitted by: Graham.

14. to restrain from speech

No votes

Submitted by: Stevens.

15. to shame; to hold up to public ridicule; to ostracize

Votes from: Graham, Madnick, Naylor, Shepherdson and Stevens

Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 5.

16. to subject to public disgrace or infamy

Votes from: Cunningham, Madnick and Shepherdson

Submitted by: Naylor, who scores natural 3.

17. obs. a tabard bearing the coat of arms of a nobleman and worn by his
servants and retainers

Votes from: Abell, Barrs and Hart

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Daniel Widdis

December 11th, 2014, 11:46 AM

What an interesting word, and "definition".

Even more amusing, I went to look up the word after voting, and the top
result was this entry from the "Urban Dictionary":

1. The boss, except way more awesome. 2. Someone who regularly does
something incredible and owns at practically everything. 3. Proven
winner.

No doubt both kissing and shouting might combine to result in the above?

On 12/11/14, 9:39 AM, Paul Keating wrote:
> Note the quotes, the shifting of blame, and explanationin place of
> definition.
>
> And to save you the trouble of looking it up, Murray defines his
> proposed alternative cognate bawze as ‘to exclaim, shout’..
>
> Well, make up your mind: are you kissing the girl, or yelling at her?
>

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Paul Keating

December 11th, 2014, 11:53 AM

What happened to definitions 18 and 19, one of which was mine?

Judy

* * * * *

The 1887 OED definition of this word comes with the closest thing to a 21st-century legal disclaimer that I think Murray ever penned:
‘To kiss’ (is Halliwell's explanation); but cf. BAWZE v.
Note the quotes, the shifting of blame, and explanation in place of definition.
And to save you the trouble of looking it up, Murray defines his proposed alternative cognate bawze as ‘to exclaim, shout’.
Well, make up your mind: are you kissing the girl, or yelling at her?
I didn’t want to post such an obviously contentious def, so I planned instead simply to post Halliwell’s to kiss, omitting Murray’s wholly conjectural etymology (from L. basiare).
It was not too much of an unpleasant surprise when Johnny Barrs came up with the same definition. My difficulty was that his def came with an etymology (from F. baiser) that struck me as unlikely as Murray’s was conjectural. I offered Johnny the option of accepting the combined def to kiss with no etymology, and he did. Tim Lodge was the only one to guess it.
With those two points he shares top spot, at 5 points, with Dodi Schultz. But her definition earned 5 natural points.
Dave Cunningham takes runner-up position with 4 points.
1. a bushy tail, as that of a squirrel or chipmunk
Vote from: Shefler
Submitted by: Mallach, who scores natural 1.
2. a chair with one arm, similar to a chaise longue
Votes from: Shefler and Weltz
Submitted by: Knoblauch, who scores natural 2.
3. a dry cold north wind in southeastern France
Votes from: Abell, Bourne and Knoblauch
Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 3.
4. to dull a shiny surface with sandpaper or a similar abrasive
Votes from: Hale and Weltz
Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 2.
5. a folk method for determining the gender of a child still in the womb
No votes
Submitted by: Hale.
6. gold-bearing silt from mine tailings that was rich enough to warrant being reprocessed
Votes from: Hale and Mallach
Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 2.
7. Bav. sl. an illegal beer hall
Votes from: Barrs, Mallach, Schultz and Widdis
Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 4.
8. an intermediate high point, not a pass, on a path or track across mountains
Vote from: Cunningham
Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 1.
9. to kiss
Vote from: Lodge
Real definition from Halliwell: Dictionary of archaic and provincial words (1850)
Submitted by: Barrs, who scores natural 1.
10. lively; vivacious
Vote from: Widdis
Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 1.
11. to loudly hawk goods on the street; to beg
Vote from: Knoblauch
Submitted by: Shepherdson, who scores natural 1.
12. low-frequency sound emitted by large transformers and electrical substations
Votes from: Hart and Stevens
Submitted by: Shefler, who scores natural 2.
13. a partridge native to Nepal
No votes
Submitted by: Graham.
14. to restrain from speech
No votes
Submitted by: Stevens.
15. to shame; to hold up to public ridicule; to ostracize
Votes from: Graham, Madnick, Naylor, Shepherdson and Stevens
Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 5.
16. to subject to public disgrace or infamy
Votes from: Cunningham, Madnick and Shepherdson
Submitted by: Naylor, who scores natural 3.
17. obs. a tabard bearing the coat of arms of a nobleman and worn by his servants and retainers
Votes from: Abell, Barrs and Hart

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Dave Cunningham

December 11th, 2014, 01:21 PM

more likely - "buss"

Dave

On Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:39:16 PM UTC-5, Paul Keating wrote:

> The 1887 OED definition of this word comes with the closest thing to a
> 21st-century legal disclaimer that I think Murray ever penned:
>
> ‘To kiss’ (is Halliwell's explanation
> <http://books.google.nl/books?id=08kRAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA151&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U1pDn14S3DbmaD-XigRYn2YXAjQ6w&ci=76%2C1121%2C425%2C61&edge=0>);
> but cf. BAWZE v.
>
> Note the quotes, the shifting of blame, and explanation in place of
> definition.
>
> And to save you the trouble of looking it up, Murray defines his proposed
> alternative cognate bawze as ‘to exclaim, shout’.
>
> Well, make up your mind: are you kissing the girl, or yelling at her?
>
> I didn’t want to post such an obviously contentious def, so I planned
> instead simply to post Halliwell’s to kiss, omitting Murray’s wholly
> conjectural etymology (from L. bāsiāre).
>
> It was not too much of an unpleasant surprise when Johnny Barrs came up
> with the same definition. My difficulty was that his def came with an
> etymology (from F. baiser) that struck me as unlikely as Murray’s was
> conjectural. I offered Johnny the option of accepting the combined def to
> kiss with no etymology, and he did. Tim Lodge was the only one to guess
> it.
>
> With those two points he shares top spot, at 5 points, with Dodi Schultz.
> But her definition earned 5 natural points.
>
> Dave Cunningham takes runner-up position with 4 points.
>
> 1. a bushy tail, as that of a squirrel or chipmunk
>
> Vote from: Shefler
>
> Submitted by: Mallach, who scores natural 1.
>
> 2. a chair with one arm, similar to a chaise longue
>
> Votes from: Shefler and Weltz
>
> Submitted by: Knoblauch, who scores natural 2.
>
> 3. a dry cold north wind in southeastern France
>
> Votes from: Abell, Bourne and Knoblauch
>
> Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 3.
>
> 4. to dull a shiny surface with sandpaper or a similar abrasive
>
> Votes from: Hale and Weltz
>
> Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 2.
>
> 5. a folk method for determining the gender of a child still in the womb
>
>
> No votes
>
> Submitted by: Hale.
>
> 6. gold-bearing silt from mine tailings that was rich enough to warrant
> being reprocessed
>
> Votes from: Hale and Mallach
>
> Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 2.
>
> 7. Bav. sl. an illegal beer hall
>
> Votes from: Barrs, Mallach, Schultz and Widdis
>
> Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 4.
>
> 8. an intermediate high point, not a pass, on a path or track across
> mountains
>
> Vote from: Cunningham
>
> Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 1.
>
> 9. to kiss
>
> Vote from: Lodge
>
> Real definition from Halliwell: Dictionary of archaic and provincial words
> (1850)
>
> Submitted by: Barrs, who scores natural 1.
>
> 10. lively; vivacious
>
> Vote from: Widdis
>
> Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 1.
>
> 11. to loudly hawk goods on the street; to beg
>
> Vote from: Knoblauch
>
> Submitted by: Shepherdson, who scores natural 1.
>
> 12. low-frequency sound emitted by large transformers and electrical
> substations
>
> Votes from: Hart and Stevens
>
> Submitted by: Shefler, who scores natural 2.
>
> 13. a partridge native to Nepal
>
> No votes
>
> Submitted by: Graham.
>
> 14. to restrain from speech
>
> No votes
>
> Submitted by: Stevens.
>
> 15. to shame; to hold up to public ridicule; to ostracize
>
> Votes from: Graham, Madnick, Naylor, Shepherdson and Stevens
>
> Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 5.
>
> 16. to subject to public disgrace or infamy
>
> Votes from: Cunningham, Madnick and Shepherdson
>
> Submitted by: Naylor, who scores natural 3.
>
> 17. obs. a tabard bearing the coat of arms of a nobleman and worn by his
> servants and retainers
>
> Votes from: Abell, Barrs and Hart
>

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JohnB

December 11th, 2014, 01:59 PM

My original "def" claimed from Fr baiser and suggested an affinity with
BUSS which I know means kiss: when Paul amalgamated I then looked up
BUSS and it confirmed the kiss but suggested BASS as an origin - BASS
did use Fr baiser, Lat basiareto mean kiss. I guess the combination of
BUSS and BASS could well lead to BAUSE but as I really didn't know it at
all ....

*John*
On 11/12/2014 17:46, Daniel Widdis wrote:
> What an interesting word, and "definition".
>
> Even more amusing, I went to look up the word after voting, and the
> top result was this entry from the "Urban Dictionary":
>
> 1. The boss, except way more awesome. 2. Someone who regularly
> does something incredible and owns at practically everything. 3.
> Proven winner.
>
>
> No doubt both kissing and shouting might combine to result in the above?
>
> On 12/11/14, 9:39 AM, Paul Keating wrote:
>> Note the quotes, the shifting of blame, and explanationin place of
>> definition.
>>
>> And to save you the trouble of looking it up, Murray defines his
>> proposed alternative cognate bawze as ‘to exclaim, shout’.
>>
>> Well, make up your mind: are you kissing the girl, or yelling at her?
>>
>
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Paul Keating

December 11th, 2014, 02:30 PM

*On Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:53:28 UTC+1, Judy Madnick wrote:*
>
> What happened to definitions 18 and 19, one of which was mine?
>
> Judy
>
> * * * * *
>

Sorry, Judy. Overhasty cut'n'paste. Dinner was waiting.

The 1887 OED definition of this word comes with the closest thing to a
21st-century legal disclaimer that I think Murray ever penned:

‘To kiss’ (is Halliwell's explanation
<http://books.google.nl/books?id=08kRAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA151&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U1pDn14S3DbmaD-XigRYn2YXAjQ6w&ci=76%2C1121%2C425%2C61&edge=0>);
but cf. BAWZE v.

Note the quotes, the shifting of blame, and explanation in place of
definition.

And to save you the trouble of looking it up, Murray defines his proposed
alternative cognate bawze as ‘to exclaim, shout’.

Well, make up your mind: are you kissing the girl, or yelling at her?

I didn’t want to post such an obviously contentious def, so I planned
instead simply to post Halliwell’s to kiss, omitting Murray’s wholly
conjectural etymology (from L. bāsiāre).

It was not too much of an unpleasant surprise when Johnny Barrs came up
with the same definition. My difficulty was that his def came with an
etymology (from F. baiser) that struck me as unlikely as Murray’s was
conjectural. I offered Johnny the option of accepting the combined def to
kiss with no etymology, and he did. Tim Lodge was the only one to guess it.

With those two points he shares top spot, at 5 points, with Dodi Schultz.
But her definition earned 5 natural points.

Dave Cunningham takes runner-up position with 4 points.

1. a bushy tail, as that of a squirrel or chipmunk

Vote from: Shefler

Submitted by: Mallach, who scores natural 1.

2. a chair with one arm, similar to a chaise longue

Votes from: Shefler and Weltz

Submitted by: Knoblauch, who scores natural 2.

3. a dry cold north wind in southeastern France

Votes from: Abell, Bourne and Knoblauch

Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 3.

4. to dull a shiny surface with sandpaper or a similar abrasive

Votes from: Hale and Weltz

Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 2.

5. a folk method for determining the gender of a child still in the womb

No votes

Submitted by: Hale.

6. gold-bearing silt from mine tailings that was rich enough to warrant
being reprocessed

Votes from: Hale and Mallach

Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 2.

7. Bav. sl. an illegal beer hall

Votes from: Barrs, Mallach, Schultz and Widdis

Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 4.

8. an intermediate high point, not a pass, on a path or track across
mountains

Vote from: Cunningham

Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 1.

9. to kiss

Vote from: Lodge

Real definition from Halliwell: Dictionary of archaic and provincial words
(1850)

Submitted by: Barrs, who scores natural 1.

10. lively; vivacious

Vote from: Widdis

Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 1.

11. to loudly hawk goods on the street; to beg

Vote from: Knoblauch

Submitted by: Shepherdson, who scores natural 1.

12. low-frequency sound emitted by large transformers and electrical
substations

Votes from: Hart and Stevens

Submitted by: Shefler, who scores natural 2.

13. a partridge native to Nepal

No votes

Submitted by: Graham.

14. to restrain from speech

No votes

Submitted by: Stevens.

15. to shame; to hold up to public ridicule; to ostracize

Votes from: Graham, Madnick, Naylor, Shepherdson and Stevens

Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 5.

16. to subject to public disgrace or infamy

Votes from: Cunningham, Madnick and Shepherdson

Submitted by: Naylor, who scores natural 3.

17. obs. a tabard bearing the coat of arms of a nobleman and worn by his
servants and retainers

Votes from: Abell, Barrs and Hart

Submitted by: Lodge, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.

18. to use seismic echoing technology for locating undersea mineral
deposits

Votes from: Bourne and Graham

Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 2.

19. word-alternation slang adding ‘av’ or ‘va’ to ends of syllables

Votes from: Lodge, Naylor and Schultz

Submitted by: Madnick, who scores natural 3.

Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total

------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----

Schultz 15 7 & 19 5 5

Lodge 17 *9* & 19 3 2 5

Cunningham 7 8 & 16 4 4

Widdis 3 7 & 10 3 3

Madnick 19 15 & 16 3 3

Naylor 16 15 & 19 3 3

Shefler 12 1 & 2 2 2

Abell 4 3 & 17 2 2

Weltz 18 2 & 4 2 2

Knoblauch 2 3 & 11 2 2

Hart 6 12 & 17 2 2

Shepherdson 11 15 & 16 1 1

Mallach 1 6 & 7 1 1

Bourne 8 3 & 18 1 1

Carson 10 N/V 1 1

Barrs 9 7 & 17 1 1

Graham 13 15 & 18 0 0

Stevens 14 12 & 15 0 0

Hale 5 4 & 6 0 0

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Judy Madnick

December 11th, 2014, 02:52 PM

Was there a second posting? When I went to Gmail, I saw all 19 definition results...I think. :-)

Judy

Original message
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To: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com;
Dated: 12/11/2014 3:30:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixonary] Round 2566:BAUSE [Results]

On Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:53:28 UTC+1, Judy Madnick wrote:
What happened to definitions 18 and 19, one of which was mine?

Judy

* * * * *

Sorry, Judy. Overhasty cut'n'paste. Dinner was waiting.

The 1887 OED definition of this word comes with the closest thing to a 21st-century legal disclaimer that I think Murray ever penned:
‘To kiss’ (is Halliwell's explanation); but cf. BAWZE v.
Note the quotes, the shifting of blame, and explanation in place of definition.
And to save you the trouble of looking it up, Murray defines his proposed alternative cognate bawze as ‘to exclaim, shout’.
Well, make up your mind: are you kissing the girl, or yelling at her?
I didn’t want to post such an obviously contentious def, so I planned instead simply to post Halliwell’s to kiss, omitting Murray’s wholly conjectural etymology (from L. basiare).
It was not too much of an unpleasant surprise when Johnny Barrs came up with the same definition. My difficulty was that his def came with an etymology (from F. baiser) that struck me as unlikely as Murray’s was conjectural. I offered Johnny the option of accepting the combined def to kiss with no etymology, and he did. Tim Lodge was the only one to guess it.
With those two points he shares top spot, at 5 points, with Dodi Schultz. But her definition earned 5 natural points.
Dave Cunningham takes runner-up position with 4 points.
1. a bushy tail, as that of a squirrel or chipmunk
Vote from: Shefler
Submitted by: Mallach, who scores natural 1.
2. a chair with one arm, similar to a chaise longue
Votes from: Shefler and Weltz
Submitted by: Knoblauch, who scores natural 2.
3. a dry cold north wind in southeastern France
Votes from: Abell, Bourne and Knoblauch
Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 3.
4. to dull a shiny surface with sandpaper or a similar abrasive
Votes from: Hale and Weltz
Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 2.
5. a folk method for determining the gender of a child still in the womb
No votes
Submitted by: Hale.
6. gold-bearing silt from mine tailings that was rich enough to warrant being reprocessed
Votes from: Hale and Mallach
Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 2.
7. Bav. sl. an illegal beer hall
Votes from: Barrs, Mallach, Schultz and Widdis
Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 4.
8. an intermediate high point, not a pass, on a path or track across mountains
Vote from: Cunningham
Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 1.
9. to kiss
Vote from: Lodge
Real definition from Halliwell: Dictionary of archaic and provincial words (1850)
Submitted by: Barrs, who scores natural 1.
10. lively; vivacious
Vote from: Widdis
Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 1.
11. to loudly hawk goods on the street; to beg
Vote from: Knoblauch
Submitted by: Shepherdson, who scores natural 1.
12. low-frequency sound emitted by large transformers and electrical substations
Votes from: Hart and Stevens
Submitted by: Shefler, who scores natural 2.
13. a partridge native to Nepal
No votes
Submitted by: Graham.
14. to restrain from speech
No votes
Submitted by: Stevens.
15. to shame; to hold up to public ridicule; to ostracize
Votes from: Graham, Madnick, Naylor, Shepherdson and Stevens
Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 5.
16. to subject to public disgrace or infamy
Votes from: Cunningham, Madnick and Shepherdson
Submitted by: Naylor, who scores natural 3.
17. obs. a tabard bearing the coat of arms of a nobleman and worn by his servants and retainers
Votes from: Abell, Barrs and Hart
Submitted by: Lodge, who scores 3 + 2, total 5.
18. to use seismic echoing technology for locating undersea mineral deposits
Votes from: Bourne and Graham
Submitted by: Weltz, who scores natural 2.
19. word-alternation slang adding ‘av’ or ‘va’ to ends of syllables
Votes from: Lodge, Naylor and Schultz
Submitted by: Madnick, who scores natural 3.

Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
Schultz 15 7 & 19 5 5
Lodge 17 *9* & 19 3 2 5
Cunningham 7 8 & 16 4 4
Widdis 3 7 & 10 3 3
Madnick 19 15 & 16 3 3
Naylor 16 15 & 19 3 3
Shefler 12 1 & 2 2 2
Abell 4 3 & 17 2 2
Weltz 18 2 & 4 2 2
Knoblauch 2 3 & 11 2 2
Hart 6 12 & 17 2 2
Shepherdson 11 15 & 16 1 1
Mallach 1 6 & 7 1 1
Bourne 8 3 & 18 1 1
Carson 10 N/V 1 1
Barrs 9 7 & 17 1 1
Graham 13 15 & 18 0 0
Stevens 14 12 & 15 0 0
Hale 5 4 & 6 0 0

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Dodi Schultz

December 11th, 2014, 04:27 PM

TO PAUL: Actually it wasn't all that controversial. The definition, "to
kiss", was in the /Century Dictionary/, which is an acceptable source. I
looked it up after I'd put in what turned out to be my two erroneous guesses.

TO ALL: I was out most of the afternoon and am just catching up with the
contents of an overflowing mailbox. A new word will be coming up soon.

—Dodi, your dealer-elect

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

On 12/11/2014 3:30 PM, Paul Keating wrote:
>
>
> /On Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:53:28 UTC+1, Judy Madnick wrote:/
>
> What happened to definitions 18 and 19, one of which was mine?
>
> Judy
> * * * * *
>
>
>
> Sorry, Judy. Overhasty cut'n'paste. Dinner was waiting.
>
>
> The 1887 OED definition of this word comes with the closest thing to a
> 21st-century legal disclaimer that I think Murray ever penned:
>
> ‘To kiss’ (is Halliwell's explanation
> <http://books.google.nl/books?id=08kRAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA151&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U1pDn14S3DbmaD-XigRYn2YXAjQ6w&ci=76%2C1121%2C425%2C61&edge=0>);
> but cf.BAWZEv.
>
> Note the quotes, the shifting of blame, and explanationin place of
> definition.
>
> And to save you the trouble of looking it up, Murray defines his proposed
> alternative cognate bawze as ‘to exclaim, shout’.
>
> Well, make up your mind: are you kissing the girl, or yelling at her?
>
> I didn’t want to post such an obviously contentious def, so I planned
> instead simply to post Halliwell’s to kiss, omitting Murray’s wholly
> conjectural etymology (from L. bāsiāre).
>
> It was not too much of an unpleasant surprise when Johnny Barrs came up
> with the same definition. My difficulty was that his def came with an
> etymology (from F. baiser) that struck me as unlikely as Murray’s was
> conjectural. I offered Johnny the option of accepting the combined def to
> kisswith no etymology, and he did. Tim Lodge was the only one to guess it.
>
> With those two points he shares top spot, at 5 points, with Dodi Schultz.
> But her definition earned 5 natural points.
>

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December 12th, 2014, 09:45 AM

Ditto for me; and I recall receiving some votes.    -- Dick Weltz

 

 

On 12/11/14, Paul Keating<jmadnick (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

What happened to definitions 18 and 19, one of which was mine?

 

Judy

 

* * * * *

 

The 1887 OED definition of this word comes with the closest thing to a 21st-century legal disclaimer that I think Murray ever penned:

 

‘To kiss’ (is Halliwell's explanation); but cf. BAWZE v.

Note the quotes, the shifting of blame, and explanation in place of definition.

And to save you the trouble of looking it up, Murray defines his proposed alternative cognate bawze as ‘to exclaim, shout’.

Well, make up your mind: are you kissing the girl, or yelling at her?

I didn’t want to post such an obviously contentious def, so I planned instead simply to post Halliwell’s to kiss, omitting Murray’s wholly conjectural etymology (from L. basiare).

It was not too much of an unpleasant surprise when Johnny Barrs came up with the same definition. My difficulty was that his def came with an etymology (from F. baiser) that struck me as unlikely as Murray’s was conjectural. I offered Johnny the option of accepting the combined def to kiss with no etymology, and he did. Tim Lodge was the only one to guess it.

With those two points he shares top spot, at 5 points, with Dodi Schultz. But her definition earned 5 natural points.

Dave Cunningham takes runner-up position with 4 points.

 1. a bushy tail, as that of a squirrel or chipmunk    

Vote from:    Shefler

Submitted by: Mallach, who scores natural 1.

2. a chair with one arm, similar to a chaise longue    

Votes from:   Shefler and Weltz

    Submitted by: Knoblauch, who scores natural 2.

3. a dry cold north wind in southeastern France    

Votes from:   Abell, Bourne and Knoblauch

    Submitted by: Widdis, who scores natural 3.

4. to dull a shiny surface with sandpaper or a similar abrasive    

Votes from:   Hale and Weltz

    Submitted by: Abell, who scores natural 2.

5. a folk method for determining the gender of a child still in the womb    

No votes

    Submitted by: Hale.

6. gold-bearing silt from mine tailings that was rich enough to warrant being reprocessed    

Votes from:   Hale and Mallach

    Submitted by: Hart, who scores natural 2.

7. Bav. sl. an illegal beer hall

Votes from:   Barrs, Mallach, Schultz and Widdis

    Submitted by: Cunningham, who scores natural 4.

8. an intermediate high point, not a pass, on a path or track across mountains    

Vote from:    Cunningham

    Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 1.

9. to kiss    

Vote from:    Lodge    

Real definition from Halliwell: Dictionary of archaic and provincial words (1850)

    Submitted by: Barrs, who scores natural 1.

10. lively; vivacious    

Vote from:    Widdis

    Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 1.

11. to loudly hawk goods on the street; to beg    

Vote from:    Knoblauch

    Submitted by: Shepherdson, who scores natural 1.

12. low-frequency sound emitted by large transformers and electrical substations

Votes from:   Hart and Stevens

    Submitted by: Shefler, who scores natural 2.

13.. a partridge native to Nepal    

No votes

    Submitted by: Graham.

14. to restrain from speech    

No votes

    Submitted by: Stevens.

15. to shame; to hold up to public ridicule; to ostracize    

Votes from:   Graham, Madnick, Naylor, Shepherdson and Stevens

    Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 5.

16. to subject to public disgrace or infamy    

Votes from:   Cunningham, Madnick and Shepherdson

    Submitted by: Naylor, who scores natural 3.

17. obs. a tabard bearing the coat of arms of a nobleman and worn by his servants and retainers

Votes from:   Abell, Barrs and Hart

 

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