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Tim Lodge
November 3rd, 2014, 03:16 PM
The votes were fairly evenly spread on this round. Two players ended up in
the lead with 5 points each, but Keith Hale takes the next deal because all
his points were votes for stilt walking through mud, whereas 2 of Tony
Abell's points were gained by voting for the real def - number 5, the
action of shaking to and fro. Three other perceptive players guessed the
true def as well. Two players got 4 points: Steve Graham and Johnny Barrs.

Take it away, Keith.

-- Tim L

*** QUAGSWAGGING ***

1. gossip.

Submitter: Tony Abell
Votes: 4 & 10 Score: 3 +
2 = 5

Voted for by: Tim Bourne,Dick Weltz, Shani Naylor



2. clam digging.

Submitter: Steve Graham Votes:
5 & 16 Score: 4 +
0 = 4

Voted for by: Dan Widdi, Milli Morgan, Rose Knoblauch,
Guerri Stevens



3. growing in dry places.

Submitter: Judy Madnick Votes:
5 & 14 Score: 1 +
0 = 1

Voted for by: Johnny Barrs



4. _Obs. rare._ the action of shaking to and fro.

Submitter: OED
Votes: 0 & 0 Score: 4
+ 0 = 4

Voted for by: Dan Widdis, Johnny Barrs, Dodi Schultz,
Tony Abell



5. walking through deep mud on purpose made stilts.

Submitter: Keith Hale
Votes: 10 & 14 Score: 5 +
0 = 5

Voted for by: Tim Bourne, Judy Madnick, Steve Graham,
Millie Morgan, Efrem Mallch



6. _Slang_ the act of ensnaring; a catching or entrapping

Submitter: Efrem Mallach Votes:
5 & 8 Score: 1 +
0 = 1

Voted for by: Dave Cunningham



7. _Australia sl._ excellent, outstanding (esp. of food).

Submitter: Dave Cunningham Votes: 6
& 8 Score: 0 + 0
= 0

Voted for by:



8. (sl.) trekking through the Outback with excessive baggage.

Submitter: Tim Bourne
Votes: 1 & 5 Score: 2
+ 0 = 2

Voted for by: Dave Cunningham, Efrem Mallach



9. a window treatment similar to a valance but with long sides

Submitter: Guerri Stevens Votes:
2 & 10 Score: 2 +
0 = 2

Voted for by: Dick Weltz, Jim Hart



10. to produce, distribute, or sell without permission or
illegally.

Submitter: Dick Weltz
Votes: 1 & 9 Score: 3
+ 0 = 3

Voted for by: Keith Hale, Guerri Stevens, Tony Abell



11. exaggeration or intentional misinterpretation, usu. for
comical effect.

Submitter: Jim Hart
Votes: 9 & 15 Score: 2 +
0 = 2

Voted for by: Shani Naylor, Dodi Schultz



12. to treat with bitter, pert, or tart language; to be impudent
or saucy to.

Submitter: Dan Widdis
Votes: 2 & 4 Score: 0
+ 2 = 2

Voted for by:



13. a courtship ritual of the emperor penguin, involving deep
bowing, and clacking of beaks.

Submitter: Millie Morgan
Votes: 2 & 5 Score: 1
+ 0 = 1

Voted for by: Rose Knoblauch




14. dancing lights over bogs, swamps or marshy places [_ignis
fatuus_ see also will-o'-the-wisp, jack-o-lantern, hinkypunky]

Submitter: Johnny Barrs Votes:
3 & 4 Score: 2 +
2 = 4

Voted for by: Judy Madnick, Keith Hale



15. a kind of border detail, often incorporating fan-like images,
characteristic of breakfronts, escritoires, etc. of the immediate
pre-Victorian era.

Submitter: Dodi Schultz
Votes: 4 & 11 Score: 1 +
2 = 3

Voted for by: Jim Hart



16. an event formerly held in some Scottish towns to commemorate
the flight of Charles Edward Stuart (known as Bonnie Prince Charlie) from
Scotland; marked with pipers, bonfires etc.

Submitter: Shani Naylor
Votes: 1 & 11 Score: 1 +
0 = 1

Voted for by: Steve Graham



No Def: Rose Knoblauch Votes:
2 & 13 Score: 0 +
0 = 0

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Tim Lodge
November 3rd, 2014, 03:18 PM
Sorry, Dan and Millie - my results spreadsheet seems to have truncated your
names.

-- Tim L

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Daniel Widdis
November 3rd, 2014, 03:38 PM
I've often wondered if the plural reference to more than one member of
my family should be Widdi, rather than Widdises or Widdisses.

On 11/3/14, 1:18 PM, Tim Lodge wrote:
> Sorry, Dan and Millie - my results spreadsheet seems to have truncated
> your names.

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Dodi Schultz
November 3rd, 2014, 05:01 PM
That's weird! Why all the wide open spaces?
BTW, the real def was number 4, not number 5.




On 11/3/2014 4:16 PM, Tim Lodge wrote:
> The votes were fairly evenly spread on this round. Two players ended up
> in the lead with 5 points each, but Keith Hale takes the next deal
> because all his points were votes for stilt walking through mud, whereas
> 2 of Tony Abell's points were gained by voting for the real def - number
> 5, the action of shaking to and fro. Three other perceptive players
> guessed the true def as well. Two players got 4 points: Steve Graham
> and Johnny Barrs.
>
> Take it away, Keith.
>
> -- Tim L
>
> *** QUAGSWAGGING ***
>
> 1. gossip.
>
> Submitter:Tony AbellVotes:4&10Score:3+2=5
>
> Voted for by:Tim Bourne,Dick Weltz, Shani Naylor
>
> 2. clam digging.
>
> Submitter:Steve GrahamVotes:5&16Score:4+0=4
>
> Voted for by:Dan Widdi, Milli Morgan, Rose Knoblauch, Guerri Stevens
>
> 3. growing in dry places.
>
> Submitter:Judy MadnickVotes:5&14Score:1+0=1
>
> Voted for by:Johnny Barrs
>
> 4. _Obs. rare._the action of shaking to and fro.
>
> Submitter:OEDVotes:0&0Score:4+0=4
>
> Voted for by:Dan Widdis, Johnny Barrs, Dodi Schultz, Tony Abell
>
> 5. walking through deep mud on purpose made stilts.
>
> Submitter:Keith HaleVotes:10&14Score:5+0=5
>
> Voted for by:Tim Bourne, Judy Madnick, Steve Graham, Millie Morgan, Efrem
> Mallch
>
> 6. _Slang_ the act of ensnaring; a catching or entrapping
>
> Submitter:Efrem MallachVotes:5&8Score:1+0=1
>
> Voted for by:Dave Cunningham
>
> 7. _Australia sl._ excellent, outstanding (esp. of food).
>
> Submitter:Dave CunninghamVotes:6&8Score:0+0=0
>
> Voted for by:
>
> 8. (sl.) trekking through the Outback with excessive baggage.
>
> Submitter:Tim BourneVotes:1&5Score:2+0=2
>
> Voted for by:Dave Cunningham, Efrem Mallach
>
> 9. a window treatment similar to a valance but with long sides
>
> Submitter:GuerriStevensVotes:2&10Score:2+0=2
>
> Voted for by:Dick Weltz, Jim Hart
>
> 10. to produce, distribute, or sell without permission or illegally.
>
> Submitter:Dick WeltzVotes:1&9Score:3+0=3
>
> Voted for by:Keith Hale, Guerri Stevens, Tony Abell
>
> 11. exaggeration or intentional misinterpretation, usu. for comical effect.
>
> Submitter:Jim HartVotes:9&15Score:2+0=2
>
> Voted for by:Shani Naylor, Dodi Schultz
>
> 12. to treat with bitter, pert, or tart language; to be impudent or saucy to.
>
> Submitter:Dan WiddisVotes:2&4Score:0+2=2
>
> Voted for by:
>
> 13. a courtship ritual of the emperor penguin, involving deep bowing, and
> clacking of beaks.
>
> Submitter:Millie MorganVotes:2&5Score:1+0=1
>
> Voted for by:Rose Knoblauch
>
> 14. dancing lights over bogs, swamps or marshy places [_ignis fatuus_ see
> also will-o'-the-wisp, jack-o-lantern, hinkypunky]
>
> Submitter:Johnny BarrsVotes:3&4Score:2+2=4
>
> Voted for by:Judy Madnick, Keith Hale
>
> 15. a kind of border detail, often incorporating fan-like images,
> characteristic of breakfronts, escritoires, etc. of the immediate
> pre-Victorian era.
>
> Submitter:Dodi SchultzVotes:4&11Score:1+2=3
>
> Voted for by:Jim Hart
>
> 16. an event formerly held in some Scottish towns to commemorate the
> flight of Charles Edward Stuart (known as Bonnie Prince Charlie) from
> Scotland; marked with pipers, bonfires etc.
>
> Submitter:Shani NaylorVotes:1&11Score:1+0=1
>
> Voted for by:Steve Graham
>
> No Def:Rose KnoblauchVotes:2&13Score:0+0=0
>
>

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—Keith Hale—
November 3rd, 2014, 05:36 PM
I've been playing this game with a "just do it fast, keep it simple, and as
short as possible" style for a long time now. Consequently, it's almost a
year since i last had to deal. I blurted the stilt-walking def and liked
it until i thought about it later. I really didn't expect any votes, but i
did watch and tally as the votes came in, saying vaguely strong words as
each vote for my def came in.

Anyway. Word up as soon as plausible, or nearly!
-Keith-

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Dodi Schultz
November 3rd, 2014, 06:56 PM
Now that's even weirder: The big multi-character spaces have now shrunk to
no space at all!


On 11/3/2014 6:01 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
> That's weird! Why all the wide open spaces?
> BTW, the real def was number 4, not number 5.
>
>
>
>
> On 11/3/2014 4:16 PM, Tim Lodge wrote:
>> The votes were fairly evenly spread on this round. Two players ended up
>> in the lead with 5 points each, but Keith Hale takes the next deal
>> because all his points were votes for stilt walking through mud, whereas
>> 2 of Tony Abell's points were gained by voting for the real def - number
>> 5, the action of shaking to and fro. Three other perceptive players
>> guessed the true def as well. Two players got 4 points: Steve Graham
>> and Johnny Barrs.
>>
>> Take it away, Keith.
>>
>> -- Tim L
>>
>> *** QUAGSWAGGING ***
>>
>> 1. gossip.
>>
>> Submitter:Tony AbellVotes:4&10Score:3+2=5
>>
>> Voted for by:Tim Bourne,Dick Weltz, Shani Naylor
>>
>> 2. clam digging.
>>
>> Submitter:Steve GrahamVotes:5&16Score:4+0=4
>>
>> Voted for by:Dan Widdi, Milli Morgan, Rose Knoblauch, Guerri Stevens
>>
>> 3. growing in dry places.
>>
>> Submitter:Judy MadnickVotes:5&14Score:1+0=1
>>
>> Voted for by:Johnny Barrs
>>
>> 4. _Obs. rare._the action of shaking to and fro.
>>
>> Submitter:OEDVotes:0&0Score:4+0=4
>>
>> Voted for by:Dan Widdis, Johnny Barrs, Dodi Schultz, Tony Abell
>>
>> 5. walking through deep mud on purpose made stilts.
>>
>> Submitter:Keith HaleVotes:10&14Score:5+0=5
>>
>> Voted for by:Tim Bourne, Judy Madnick, Steve Graham, Millie Morgan,
>> Efrem Mallch
>>
>> 6. _Slang_ the act of ensnaring; a catching or entrapping
>>
>> Submitter:Efrem MallachVotes:5&8Score:1+0=1
>>
>> Voted for by:Dave Cunningham
>>
>> 7. _Australia sl._ excellent, outstanding (esp. of food).
>>
>> Submitter:Dave CunninghamVotes:6&8Score:0+0=0
>>
>> Voted for by:
>>
>> 8. (sl.) trekking through the Outback with excessive baggage.
>>
>> Submitter:Tim BourneVotes:1&5Score:2+0=2
>>
>> Voted for by:Dave Cunningham, Efrem Mallach
>>
>> 9. a window treatment similar to a valance but with long sides
>>
>> Submitter:GuerriStevensVotes:2&10Score:2+0=2
>>
>> Voted for by:Dick Weltz, Jim Hart
>>
>> 10. to produce, distribute, or sell without permission or illegally.
>>
>> Submitter:Dick WeltzVotes:1&9Score:3+0=3
>>
>> Voted for by:Keith Hale, Guerri Stevens, Tony Abell
>>
>> 11. exaggeration or intentional misinterpretation, usu. for comical effect.
>>
>> Submitter:Jim HartVotes:9&15Score:2+0=2
>>
>> Voted for by:Shani Naylor, Dodi Schultz
>>
>> 12. to treat with bitter, pert, or tart language; to be impudent or
>> saucy to.
>>
>> Submitter:Dan WiddisVotes:2&4Score:0+2=2
>>
>> Voted for by:
>>
>> 13. a courtship ritual of the emperor penguin, involving deep bowing,
>> and clacking of beaks.
>>
>> Submitter:Millie MorganVotes:2&5Score:1+0=1
>>
>> Voted for by:Rose Knoblauch
>>
>> 14. dancing lights over bogs, swamps or marshy places [_ignis fatuus_
>> see also will-o'-the-wisp, jack-o-lantern, hinkypunky]
>>
>> Submitter:Johnny BarrsVotes:3&4Score:2+2=4
>>
>> Voted for by:Judy Madnick, Keith Hale
>>
>> 15. a kind of border detail, often incorporating fan-like images,
>> characteristic of breakfronts, escritoires, etc. of the immediate
>> pre-Victorian era.
>>
>> Submitter:Dodi SchultzVotes:4&11Score:1+2=3
>>
>> Voted for by:Jim Hart
>>
>> 16. an event formerly held in some Scottish towns to commemorate the
>> flight of Charles Edward Stuart (known as Bonnie Prince Charlie) from
>> Scotland; marked with pipers, bonfires etc.
>>
>> Submitter:Shani NaylorVotes:1&11Score:1+0=1
>>
>> Voted for by:Steve Graham
>>
>> No Def:Rose KnoblauchVotes:2&13Score:0+0=0
>>
>>
>

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Daniel Widdis
November 3rd, 2014, 07:01 PM
He cut-and-pasted from a spreadsheet which, by default, uses 'tab'
characters between elements. (And sometimes truncates names!)

There is no official "standard" amount of space for a tab, so how tabs
are represented is left completely up to the client reading an email.
Some of us saw a lot of space, some saw less, some saw none at all.

And most clients when copying/replying and quoting tabs, replace them
with a single space. Thus the shrinking.


On 11/3/14, 4:56 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>
> Now that's even weirder: The big multi-character spaces have now
> shrunk to no space at all!
>
>
> On 11/3/2014 6:01 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>> That's weird! Why all the wide open spaces?

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Dodi Schultz
November 3rd, 2014, 07:15 PM
Thank you, Dan.


On 11/3/2014 8:01 PM, Daniel Widdis wrote:
> He cut-and-pasted from a spreadsheet which, by default, uses 'tab'
> characters between elements. (And sometimes truncates names!)
>
> There is no official "standard" amount of space for a tab, so how tabs
> are represented is left completely up to the client reading an email.
> Some of us saw a lot of space, some saw less, some saw none at all.
>
> And most clients when copying/replying and quoting tabs, replace them
> with a single space. Thus the shrinking.
>
>
> On 11/3/14, 4:56 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>>
>> Now that's even weirder: The big multi-character spaces have now shrunk
>> to no space at all!
>>
>>
>> On 11/3/2014 6:01 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>>> That's weird! Why all the wide open spaces?
>

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Tim Lodge
November 4th, 2014, 03:12 AM
Dodi

Dan's right about what goes wrong with my formatting of the results. I
paste them from the spreadsheet into MS Word and spend quite a long time
adjusting them there. I then adjust them again when I paste them into the
composition box on the Group website. However, as Dan says, every browser
and email client seems to handle it differently, and it never looks as it
did when I posted it!

Next time I'll try doing it in Notepad, so that there are no tabs or
formatting at all.

-- Tim L

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 1:15:12 AM UTC, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>
> Thank you, Dan.
>
>
> On 11/3/2014 8:01 PM, Daniel Widdis wrote:
> > He cut-and-pasted from a spreadsheet which, by default, uses 'tab'
> > characters between elements. (And sometimes truncates names!)
> >
> > There is no official "standard" amount of space for a tab, so how tabs
> > are represented is left completely up to the client reading an email.
> > Some of us saw a lot of space, some saw less, some saw none at all.
> >
> > And most clients when copying/replying and quoting tabs, replace them
> > with a single space. Thus the shrinking.
> >
> >
> > On 11/3/14, 4:56 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
> >>
> >> Now that's even weirder: The big multi-character spaces have now shrunk
> >> to no space at all!
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/3/2014 6:01 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
> >>> That's weird! Why all the wide open spaces?
> >
>
>

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Jim Hart
November 4th, 2014, 04:55 AM
Tim,

FWIW I also do my dealing in a spreadsheet and copy straight into
Thunderbird using "paste without formatting" option. The only massaging I
have to do is to delete all the double quote marks that somehow get
inserted - easy so long as there aren't any intentional quote marks in the
list. I used to go the extra formatting step via MS Word as you do with
similar problems so now I put the extra comment words into the spreadsheet.
Happy to send you a copy if you wish.

Jim

On Tuesday, 4 November 2014 20:12:29 UTC+11, Tim Lodge wrote:
>
> Dodi
>
> Dan's right about what goes wrong with my formatting of the results. I
> paste them from the spreadsheet into MS Word and spend quite a long time
> adjusting them there. I then adjust them again when I paste them into the
> composition box on the Group website. However, as Dan says, every browser
> and email client seems to handle it differently, and it never looks as it
> did when I posted it!
>
> Next time I'll try doing it in Notepad, so that there are no tabs or
> formatting at all.
>
> -- Tim L
>
>>
>>

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Jim Hart
November 4th, 2014, 05:05 AM
Dodi - as with JB's message in the voting thread, Google has kindly
offered to translate your message for me. You may be interested to know
that their Dutch->English translation of "Thank you, Dan." is... yes,
"Thank you, Dan."

Jim

On Tuesday, 4 November 2014 12:15:12 UTC+11, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>
> Thank you, Dan.
>
>
>

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Tim Lodge
November 4th, 2014, 06:26 AM
Jim

I think the problem is that I'm pasting my results into the Google Group
website. I make it look OK before I press 'Post', but Google still changes
the look of it, and it probably looks even worse in an email client.
Thanks for the offer of your spreadsheet, but I'll try to sort it out for
myself.

-- Tim L

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 10:55:49 AM UTC, Jim Hart wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> FWIW I also do my dealing in a spreadsheet and copy straight into
> Thunderbird using "paste without formatting" option. The only massaging I
> have to do is to delete all the double quote marks that somehow get
> inserted - easy so long as there aren't any intentional quote marks in the
> list. I used to go the extra formatting step via MS Word as you do with
> similar problems so now I put the extra comment words into the spreadsheet.
> Happy to send you a copy if you wish.
>
> Jim
>
> On Tuesday, 4 November 2014 20:12:29 UTC+11, Tim Lodge wrote:
>>
>> Dodi
>>
>> Dan's right about what goes wrong with my formatting of the results. I
>> paste them from the spreadsheet into MS Word and spend quite a long time
>> adjusting them there. I then adjust them again when I paste them into the
>> composition box on the Group website. However, as Dan says, every browser
>> and email client seems to handle it differently, and it never looks as it
>> did when I posted it!
>>
>> Next time I'll try doing it in Notepad, so that there are no tabs or
>> formatting at all.
>>
>> -- Tim L
>>
>>>
>>>
>

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Dodi Schultz
November 4th, 2014, 07:02 AM
I don't recall ever seeing that on any of your (or anyone's) earlier deals.

—Dodi




On 11/4/2014 4:12 AM, Tim Lodge wrote:
> Dodi
>
> Dan's right about what goes wrong with my formatting of the results. I
> paste them from the spreadsheet into MS Word and spend quite a long time
> adjusting them there. I then adjust them again when I paste them into the
> composition box on the Group website. However, as Dan says, every browser
> and email client seems to handle it differently, and it never looks as it
> did when I posted it!
>
> Next time I'll try doing it in Notepad, so that there are no tabs or
> formatting at all.
>
> -- Tim L
>

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Jim Hart
November 4th, 2014, 03:18 PM
Tim, I understand the problem having pasted into the groups website myself.
I agree passing it through Notepad should get rid of any formatting quirks.
Of course if we all still used basic 7-bit ascii none of this would matter!
- Jim

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