[Dixonary] Round 2544: NISGUL results

[Daniel Widdis]

Rules were made to be broken.

I want to start out this post by acknowledging Shani Naylor as the
rightful winner of the previous round. You all saw the bit of confusion
between scoring and my initial post before receiving the correction
message, and I deferred to the precedents justifying my continuation of
the round. I'll admit, it was mostly a selfish decision since I had
spent some time finding a word to deal and didn't want it to go to
waste. But I had the rules on my side, even though nobody had submitted
votes yet and backing out would have been a rather simple affair with
minimal confusion.

I did not realize then that this was Shani's first win, and while many
of us who have dealt multiple times might see it as a chore, a new
player rightfully views their first deal as a crowning achievement. I
deprived Shani of her day in the sun, and the pleasure of 15 or more
congratulatory messages with the submitted definitions. I regret my
decision to continue, and think in hindsight this was one place where
precedent should have been ignored.

But what's done is done. Sorry again, Shani, and heartfelt
congratulations on your win.

Now, to this round's results.

Only three players earned more than two votes. Efrem Mallach's
Zoroastrian spirit ties the dictionary's weak chicken with six votes and
earns him the next deal. Tim Lodge, one of the last three votes which
doubled my D3 into a D6 can take the 'real winner' laurels with his
unnatural six for the blue bull (no relation to a blue ox). And Dodi
Schultz deserves honorable mention, collecting four votes for her
mischievous troll.

The breakdown:

1. a unit of length defined as the height in 1958 of Tamas Nisgul, who
later became Chairman of the European Standards Institute
Vote from: Lodge
Submitted by: Morgan, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
2. a cotton awning held up by ropes, often used to shade the entrance
of shops or cafés
Vote from: Shefler
Submitted by: Knoblauch, who scores natural 1.
3. an early-blooming alpine flower with alternating red and white petals
No votes
Submitted by: Shefler, who scores 0 + 2, total 2.
4. dried leaf used in ancient times to make perfumed ointments
Vote from: Hale
Submitted by: Madnick, who scores natural 1.
5. (chiefly in Nepal and Tibet) a prayer shawl
Vote from: Hale
Submitted by: Hart, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
6. [Zoroastrian] a malevolent spirit
Votes from: Bourne, Carson, Cunningham, Hart, Madnick and Stevens
Submitted by: Mallach, who scores natural 6.
7. a paper chit for food rations
No votes
Submitted by: Hale.
8. a Mongolian racing saddle
Votes from: Mallach and Schultz
Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 2.
9. a sort of mischievous troll
Votes from: Bourne, Carson, Cunningham and Madnick
Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 4.
10. having a light, frothy texture
No votes
Submitted by: Stevens.
11. a vague sense of ennui and dissatisfaction
Vote from: Stevens
Submitted by: Abell, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
12. [Bristol slang pron. /nissle/] a very prominent nose
Vote from: Knoblauch
Submitted by: Barrs, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
13. a foodstuff made by mixing beaten taro root with finely chopped meat
No votes
Submitted by: Weltz.
14. /Midland English/ the smallest and weakest bird in a brood of chickens
Votes from: Abell, Barrs, Hart, Lodge, Morgan and Shefler
Real definition from Collins English Dictionary -- Complete and
Unabridged
15. any of various Egyptian dishes made from broad beans that are
simmered until tender and then mashed
Votes from: Knoblauch and Mallach
Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 2.
16. a large antelope (/Boselaphus tragocamelus/) of central and northern
India. The mature male appears ox-like and is also known as the blue bull.
Votes from: Abell, Barrs, Morgan and Schultz
Submitted by: Lodge, who scores 4 + 2, total 6.

Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
Mallach 6 8 & 15 6 6
Lodge 16 1 & *14* 4 2 6
Schultz 9 8 & 16 4 4
Barrs 12 *14* & 16 1 2 3
Hart 5 6 & *14* 1 2 3
Abell 11 *14* & 16 1 2 3
Morgan 1 *14* & 16 1 2 3
Carson 15 6 & 9 2 2
Bourne 8 6 & 9 2 2
Shefler 3 2 & *14* 0 2 2
Madnick 4 6 & 9 1 1
Knoblauch 2 12 & 15 1 1
Hale 7 4 & 5 0 0
Stevens 10 6 & 11 0 0
Weltz 13 N/V 0 0
Cunningham 6 & 9 0 0

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[Shani Naylor]

Daniel -- I have only just read your message after a long day at work --
thanks so much for this acknowledgement. Yes, it was supposed to be my
moment in the sun, which explains why I was peeved... I understand it was
all in the rules and if something similar happens again I'm sure I'll be
relaxed about it.

I've really been enjoying this game, and the virtual company of the players
scattered around the globe, and hope that continues.

best wishes
Shani

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Daniel Widdis <widdis (AT) dixonary (DOT) net> wrote:

> Rules were made to be broken.
>
> I want to start out this post by acknowledging Shani Naylor as the
> rightful winner of the previous round. You all saw the bit of confusion
> between scoring and my initial post before receiving the correction
> message, and I deferred to the precedents justifying my continuation of the
> round. I'll admit, it was mostly a selfish decision since I had spent some
> time finding a word to deal and didn't want it to go to waste. But I had
> the rules on my side, even though nobody had submitted votes yet and
> backing out would have been a rather simple affair with minimal confusion..
>
> I did not realize then that this was Shani's first win, and while many of
> us who have dealt multiple times might see it as a chore, a new player
> rightfully views their first deal as a crowning achievement. I deprived
> Shani of her day in the sun, and the pleasure of 15 or more congratulatory
> messages with the submitted definitions. I regret my decision to continue,
> and think in hindsight this was one place where precedent should have been
> ignored.
>
> But what's done is done. Sorry again, Shani, and heartfelt
> congratulations on your win.
>
> Now, to this round's results.
>
> Only three players earned more than two votes. Efrem Mallach's
> Zoroastrian spirit ties the dictionary's weak chicken with six votes and
> earns him the next deal. Tim Lodge, one of the last three votes which
> doubled my D3 into a D6 can take the 'real winner' laurels with his
> unnatural six for the blue bull (no relation to a blue ox). And Dodi
> Schultz deserves honorable mention, collecting four votes for her
> mischievous troll.
>
> The breakdown:
>
> 1. a unit of length defined as the height in 1958 of Tamas Nisgul, who
> later became Chairman of the European Standards Institute
> Vote from: Lodge
> Submitted by: Morgan, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
> 2. a cotton awning held up by ropes, often used to shade the entrance of
> shops or cafés
> Vote from: Shefler
> Submitted by: Knoblauch, who scores natural 1.
> 3. an early-blooming alpine flower with alternating red and white
> petals
> No votes
> Submitted by: Shefler, who scores 0 + 2, total 2.
> 4. dried leaf used in ancient times to make perfumed ointments
> Vote from: Hale
> Submitted by: Madnick, who scores natural 1.
> 5. (chiefly in Nepal and Tibet) a prayer shawl
> Vote from: Hale
> Submitted by: Hart, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
> 6. [Zoroastrian] a malevolent spirit
> Votes from: Bourne, Carson, Cunningham, Hart, Madnick and Stevens
> Submitted by: Mallach, who scores natural 6.
> 7. a paper chit for food rations
> No votes
> Submitted by: Hale.
> 8. a Mongolian racing saddle
> Votes from: Mallach and Schultz
> Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 2.
> 9. a sort of mischievous troll
> Votes from: Bourne, Carson, Cunningham and Madnick
> Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 4.
> 10. having a light, frothy texture
> No votes
> Submitted by: Stevens.
> 11. a vague sense of ennui and dissatisfaction
> Vote from: Stevens
> Submitted by: Abell, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
> 12. [Bristol slang pron. *nissle*] a very prominent nose
> Vote from: Knoblauch
> Submitted by: Barrs, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
> 13. a foodstuff made by mixing beaten taro root with finely chopped
> meat
> No votes
> Submitted by: Weltz.
> 14. *Midland English* the smallest and weakest bird in a brood of
> chickens
> Votes from: Abell, Barrs, Hart, Lodge, Morgan and Shefler
> Real definition from Collins English Dictionary – Complete and
> Unabridged
> 15. any of various Egyptian dishes made from broad beans that are simmered
> until tender and then mashed
> Votes from: Knoblauch and Mallach
> Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 2.
> 16. a large antelope (*Boselaphus tragocamelus*) of central and northern
> India. The mature male appears ox-like and is also known as the blue
> bull.
> Votes from: Abell, Barrs, Morgan and Schultz
> Submitted by: Lodge, who scores 4 + 2, total 6.
>
> Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
> ------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
> Mallach 6 8 & 15 6 6
> Lodge 16 1 & *14* 4 2 6
> Schultz 9 8 & 16 4 4
> Barrs 12 *14* & 16 1 2 3
> Hart 5 6 & *14* 1 2 3
> Abell 11 *14* & 16 1 2 3
> Morgan 1 *14* & 16 1 2 3
> Carson 15 6 & 9 2 2
> Bourne 8 6 & 9 2 2
> Shefler 3 2 & *14* 0 2 2
> Madnick 4 6 & 9 1 1
> Knoblauch 2 12 & 15 1 1
> Hale 7 4 & 5 0 0
> Stevens 10 6 & 11 0 0
> Weltz 13 N/V 0 0
> Cunningham 6 & 9 0 0
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[Daniel Widdis]

Well, it was in the "real rules" which are more precedent than requirement, and meant to avoid confusion when the one who posts might not be around for a day to correct wayward submissions or resolve confusion. And most dealers are happy to pass the buck. Not my case nor yours and there should always be room for exceptions.

I'm sure you'll win again soon. When you least expect it!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Shani Naylor <shani.naylor (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> Daniel -- I have only just read your message after a long day at work -- thanks so much for this acknowledgement. Yes, it was supposed to be my moment in the sun, which explains why I was peeved... I understand it was all in the rules and if something similar happens again I'm sure I'll be relaxed about it.
>
> I've really been enjoying this game, and the virtual company of the players scattered around the globe, and hope that continues.
>
> best wishes
> Shani
>
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Daniel Widdis <widdis (AT) dixonary (DOT) net> wrote:
>> Rules were made to be broken.
>>
>> I want to start out this post by acknowledging Shani Naylor as the rightful winner of the previous round. You all saw the bit of confusion between scoring and my initial post before receiving the correction message, and I deferred to the precedents justifying my continuation of the round. I'll admit, it was mostly a selfish decision since I had spent some time finding a word to deal and didn't want it to go to waste. But I had the rules on my side, even though nobody had submitted votes yet and backing out would have been a rather simple affair with minimal confusion.
>>
>> I did not realize then that this was Shani's first win, and while many of us who have dealt multiple times might see it as a chore, a new player rightfully views their first deal as a crowning achievement. I deprived Shani of her day in the sun, and the pleasure of 15 or more congratulatory messages with the submitted definitions. I regret my decision to continue, and think in hindsight this was one place where precedent should have been ignored.
>>
>> But what's done is done. Sorry again, Shani, and heartfelt congratulations on your win.
>>
>> Now, to this round's results.
>>
>> Only three players earned more than two votes. Efrem Mallach's Zoroastrian spirit ties the dictionary's weak chicken with six votes and earns him the next deal. Tim Lodge, one of the last three votes which doubled my D3 into a D6 can take the 'real winner' laurels with his unnatural six for the blue bull (no relation to a blue ox). And Dodi Schultz deserves honorable mention, collecting four votes for her mischievous troll.
>>
>> The breakdown:
>>
>> 1. a unit of length defined as the height in 1958 of Tamas Nisgul, who later became Chairman of the European Standards Institute
>> Vote from: Lodge
>> Submitted by: Morgan, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
>> 2. a cotton awning held up by ropes, often used to shade the entrance of shops or cafés
>> Vote from: Shefler
>> Submitted by: Knoblauch, who scores natural 1.
>> 3. an early-blooming alpine flower with alternating red and white petals
>> No votes
>> Submitted by: Shefler, who scores 0 + 2, total 2.
>> 4. dried leaf used in ancient times to make perfumed ointments
>> Vote from: Hale
>> Submitted by: Madnick, who scores natural 1.
>> 5. (chiefly in Nepal and Tibet) a prayer shawl
>> Vote from: Hale
>> Submitted by: Hart, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
>> 6. [Zoroastrian] a malevolent spirit
>> Votes from: Bourne, Carson, Cunningham, Hart, Madnick and Stevens
>> Submitted by: Mallach, who scores natural 6.
>> 7. a paper chit for food rations
>> No votes
>> Submitted by: Hale.
>> 8. a Mongolian racing saddle
>> Votes from: Mallach and Schultz
>> Submitted by: Bourne, who scores natural 2.
>> 9. a sort of mischievous troll
>> Votes from: Bourne, Carson, Cunningham and Madnick
>> Submitted by: Schultz, who scores natural 4.
>> 10. having a light, frothy texture
>> No votes
>> Submitted by: Stevens.
>> 11. a vague sense of ennui and dissatisfaction
>> Vote from: Stevens
>> Submitted by: Abell, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
>> 12. [Bristol slang pron. nissle] a very prominent nose
>> Vote from: Knoblauch
>> Submitted by: Barrs, who scores 1 + 2, total 3.
>> 13. a foodstuff made by mixing beaten taro root with finely chopped meat
>> No votes
>> Submitted by: Weltz.
>> 14. Midland English the smallest and weakest bird in a brood of chickens
>> Votes from: Abell, Barrs, Hart, Lodge, Morgan and Shefler
>> Real definition from Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged
>> 15. any of various Egyptian dishes made from broad beans that are simmered until tender and then mashed
>> Votes from: Knoblauch and Mallach
>> Submitted by: Carson, who scores natural 2.
>> 16. a large antelope (Boselaphus tragocamelus) of central and northern India. The mature male appears ox-like and is also known as the blue bull.
>> Votes from: Abell, Barrs, Morgan and Schultz
>> Submitted by: Lodge, who scores 4 + 2, total 6.
>>
>> Player Def Voted for Votes Guess DP Total
>> ------ --- --------- ----- ----- -- -----
>> Mallach 6 8 & 15 6 6
>> Lodge 16 1 & *14* 4 2 6
>> Schultz 9 8 & 16 4 4
>> Barrs 12 *14* & 16 1 2 3
>> Hart 5 6 & *14* 1 2 3
>> Abell 11 *14* & 16 1 2 3
>> Morgan 1 *14* & 16 1 2 3
>> Carson 15 6 & 9 2 2
>> Bourne 8 6 & 9 2 2
>> Shefler 3 2 & *14* 0 2 2
>> Madnick 4 6 & 9 1 1
>> Knoblauch 2 12 & 15 1 1
>> Hale 7 4 & 5 0 0
>> Stevens 10 6 & 11 0 0
>> Weltz 13 N/V 0 0
>> Cunningham 6 & 9 0 0
>>
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[Jim Hart]

Fear not, Shani, your day in the sun will be recorded forever in Dixonary
annals, not to mention Mike's statistics. And I would now offer belated
congratulations, knowing that I neither helped nor hindered your victory
since I missed that round entirely.

As for the encyclopedic rules, seems to me they mostly say what you can do
more than what you must do.

Jim

On Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:22:28 UTC+10, Shani Naylor wrote:
>
> Daniel -- I have only just read your message after a long day at work --
> thanks so much for this acknowledgement. Yes, it was supposed to be my
> moment in the sun, which explains why I was peeved... I understand it was
> all in the rules and if something similar happens again I'm sure I'll be
> relaxed about it.
>
>

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[—Keith Hale—]

Shani, your dealership was impressive, and not long after starting the
game! Well done.

Also - there are frequently times when an assigned Dealer really can't
deal. I stepped up for one round after i'd had to pass a deal to
someone, and i imagine just about any seasoned player will be happy to
let you in, and get that mostly-fun experience!

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