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Tony Abell
June 11th, 2014, 06:46 PM
John Barrs was the top point scorer and next dealer with his outer layer of
the cornea contrivance, earning 6 votes plus two points for guessing the true
definition: the overly long and complicated Jewish Scripture reading
convention. Two other players also chose the real def, giving the dictionary a
mediocre D3. In a distant second place was Efrem Mallach, the real winner with
5 unnatural points.

Take it away, Johnny!

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1. A reading that in the traditional Jewish mode of reading the Jewish
Scriptures is substituted for one actually standing in the consonantal
text, with the consonants of the word or phrase to be read being usually
given in the margin and the vowel points if the text is vocalized being
inserted in the text.
Voted for by Dave Cunningham, John Barrs, Efrem Mallach
SOURCE: Merriam-Webster's Unabridged, which cannot vote, and scores D3

2. _Maori_ A feast.
Voted for by Judy Madnick
SOURCE: Dave Cunningham, who voted *1* and 13, and scores 1 + 2 = 3*

3. *[Print.]* That part of the type above and below the face, which allows for
ascending and descending letters, and prevents their meeting those in the
lines above or below.
Voted for by Mike Shefler, Dan Widdis
SOURCE: Millie Morgan, who voted 6 and 19, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

4. The outer layers of the cornea; specifically when they cause sight
reduction by coarsening and thickening.
Voted for by Jim Hart, Chris Carson, Dick Weltz, Mike Shefler, Efrem
Mallach, Shani Naylor
SOURCE: John Barrs, who voted *1* and 14, and scores 6 + 2 = 8*

5. Toxic secretions of the poison dart frogs of Central- and South-America
(Dendrobatidae).
Voted for by nobody
SOURCE: Steve Graham, who voted 6 and 11, and scores 0 + 0 = 0

6. _Scot._ A bull calf.
Voted for by Millie Morgan, Chris Carson, Steve Graham, Dodi Schultz
SOURCE: Tim Lodge, who voted 9 and 18, and scores 4 + 0 = 4

7. A high official in Sudan.
Voted for by nobody
SOURCE: Guerri Stevens, who voted 10 and 20, and scores 0 + 0 = 0

8. A score of 19 for a hand in the game of cribbage.
Voted for by Dan Widdis
SOURCE: Glen Boswell, who voted 19 and 20, and scores 1 + 0 = 1

9. _Archaic_ A companion.
Voted for by Judy Madnick, Tim Lodge
SOURCE: Chris Carson, who voted 4 and 6, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

10. Concave.
Voted for by Guerri Stevens, Paul Keating
SOURCE: Tim Bourne, who voted 14 and 18, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

11. Scot. Uttered in acknowledgement or expectation of success after initial
failure: 'third time lucky'.
Voted for by Steve Graham, Keith Hale
SOURCE: Paul Keating, who voted 10 and 15, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

12. Ceramic bottle.
Voted for by nobody
SOURCE: Keith Hale, who voted 11 and 13, and scores 0 + 0 = 0

13. A small circular shield attributed to the Amazonian queen Hippolyta in the
legends of Hercules.
Voted for by Dave Cunningham, Keith Hale
SOURCE: Mike Shefler, who voted 3 and 4, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

14. A whit.
Voted for by John Barrs, Tim Bourne, Dodi Schultz
SOURCE: Dan Widdis, who voted 3 and 8, and scores 3 + 0 = 3

15. (Scot., obs) Agile, nimble.
Voted for by Paul Keating
SOURCE: Shani Naylor, who voted 4 and 20, and scores 1 + 0 = 1

16. Any of several species of herbaceous plant of the genus _Phlomis_, also
known as flame sage.
Voted for by nobody
SOURCE: Jim Hart, who voted 4 and 17, and scores 0 + 0 = 0

17. The outer layer of the exoskeleton of a crustacean.
Voted for by Jim Hart
SOURCE: Dodi Schultz, who voted 6 and 14, and scores 1 + 0 = 1

18. A waxy substance used for coating fishing lines.
Voted for by Tim Bourne, Tim Lodge
SOURCE: Dick Weltz, who voted 4 and 19, and scores 2 + 0 = 2

19. Small rope wound about larger rope to keep it from fraying.
Voted for by Millie Morgan, Dick Weltz, Glen Boswell
SOURCE: Judy Madnick, who voted 2 and 9, and scores 3 + 0 = 3

20. A slot along the shaft of an arrow, near its tail, to hold the fletching
(feathers).
Voted for by Guerri Stevens, Glen Boswell, Shani Naylor
SOURCE: Efrem Mallach, who voted *1* and 4, and scores 3 + 2 = 5*

SUMMARY

Player Def# Voted for Points, N+U=T
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Barrs ........................ 4 *1* & 14 6 + 2 = 8
Boswell ...................... 8 19 & 20 1 + 0 = 1
Bourne ....................... 10 14 & 18 2 + 0 = 2
Carson ....................... 9 4 & 6 2 + 0 = 2
Cunningham ................... 2 *1* & 13 1 + 2 = 3
Graham ....................... 5 6 & 11 0 + 0 = 0
Hale ......................... 12 11 & 13 0 + 0 = 0
Hart ......................... 16 4 & 17 0 + 0 = 0
Keating ...................... 11 10 & 15 2 + 0 = 2
Lodge ........................ 6 9 & 18 4 + 0 = 4
M-W Unabridged ............... 1 N/A D3
Madnick ...................... 19 2 & 9 3 + 0 = 3
Mallach ...................... 20 *1* & 4 3 + 2 = 5
Morgan ....................... 3 6 & 19 2 + 0 = 2
Naylor ....................... 15 4 & 20 1 + 0 = 1
Schultz ...................... 17 6 & 14 1 + 0 = 1
Shefler ...................... 13 3 & 4 2 + 0 = 2
Stevens ...................... 7 10 & 20 0 + 0 = 0
Weltz ........................ 18 4 & 19 2 + 0 = 2
Widdis ....................... 14 3 & 8 3 + 0 = 3

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EnDash via Dixonary
June 12th, 2014, 09:39 AM
This one has me really dumfounded, although I readily agree that it is a
legitimate definition -- found it right in my M-W Unabridged. The thing is
that I have more than a little knowledge of the writing, printing, and
reading of the Hebrew Bible; and I have never heard of any such thing.

In fact, the English definition is unintelligible to me. Now, I feel
challenged and will seek out the help of my favorite Hebrew authority for
clarification.


In a message dated 6/11/2014 7:48:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
hello (AT) isanybodyhome (DOT) com writes:


John Barrs was the top point scorer and next dealer with his outer layer of
the cornea contrivance, earning 6 votes plus two points for guessing the
true
definition: the overly long and complicated Jewish Scripture reading
convention. Two other players also chose the real def, giving the
dictionary a
mediocre D3. In a distant second place was Efrem Mallach, the real winner
with
5 unnatural points.

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John Barrs
June 12th, 2014, 11:13 AM
I must admit that I too was confused - partially because I thought that the
whole point of a Hebrew bible is that there are not, in fact can not be,
alternative readings.
But I then remembered what the English translation does (or used to do)
with the tetragrammaton (YHWH) which is usually pointed as for 'adonai'
and gave rise therefore to Jehovah - then to LORD (in capitals) and now ...
to whatever is house-style - I have seen font "small-caps" LORD .... so I
assumed that there might be alternative readings obtained by repointing the
vowels and because it seemed possible - therefore I opted for it

JohnnyB


On 12 June 2014 15:39, EnDash via Dixonary <dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
wrote:

> This one has me really dumfounded, although I readily agree that it is a
> legitimate definition -- found it right in my M-W Unabridged. The thing is
> that I have more than a little knowledge of the writing, printing, and
> reading of the Hebrew Bible; and I have never heard of any such thing.
>
> In fact, the English definition is unintelligible to me. Now, I feel
> challenged and will seek out the help of my favorite Hebrew authority for
> clarification.
>
> In a message dated 6/11/2014 7:48:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> hello (AT) isanybodyhome (DOT) com writes:
>
>
> John Barrs was the top point scorer and next dealer with his outer layer of
> the cornea contrivance, earning 6 votes plus two points for guessing the
> true
> definition: the overly long and complicated Jewish Scripture reading
> convention. Two other players also chose the real def, giving the
> dictionary a
> mediocre D3. In a distant second place was Efrem Mallach, the real winner
> with
> 5 unnatural points.
>
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EnDash via Dixonary
June 12th, 2014, 12:50 PM
The original Hebrew Bible is, of course, the Torah (Five Books of Moses),
these are written by hand on parchment scrolls and read from in the
Synagogues. The rules covering a "kosher" Torah are very strict, and there may be
no variance whatsoever. But, even so, the Pentateuch, Prophets, and other
sacred Hebrew writings are often reproduced in print by calligraphy or modern
methods. Still, I have never seen nor heard of what seems to be a strange
mix-up of vowels and consonants such as is apparently described here.

Actually, Biblical (and Modern) Hebrew is written only with consonants --
all the alphabetic characters in Hebrew are consonants or silents. Vowel
sounds are sometime indicated by a system of marks placed above, below, or
alongside the letters; but this is usually done only for material meant for
beginning learners or schoolchildren. I have never seen or heard of a case in
which the consonants are placed on one part of the page and the vowel
marks on another -- but I am continuing to investigate.


In a message dated 6/12/2014 12:13:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
johnnybarrs (AT) gmail (DOT) com writes:

I must admit that I too was confused - partially because I thought that
the whole point of a Hebrew bible is that there are not, in fact can not be,
alternative readings.
But I then remembered what the English translation does (or used to do)
with the tetragrammaton (YHWH) which is usually pointed as for 'adonai' and
gave rise therefore to Jehovah - then to LORD (in capitals) and now ... to
whatever is house-style - I have seen font "small-caps" LORD .... so I
assumed that there might be alternative readings obtained by repointing the
vowels and because it seemed possible - therefore I opted for it


JohnnyB

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