[Dixonary] Round 2489 Word Announcement: SEREIN

[Tim Lodge]

Apologies for the delay in posting the word. It's been the first really
fine day of the year here in the South of England, and I thought I should
get outside and start repairing the garden after the winter ravages.

The word for round 2489 is

*****************
* *
* S E R E I N *
* *
*****************


Capitalization is not significant.

Please submit your fake definitions for this word, by _email_ to
5sfwiyj02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com, on or before the deadline, which is:

09:00 UTC on Monday 10th March
or 4:00 AM EST
or 1:00 PM PST
or 20:00 in Melbourne

-- Tim L

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[Dodi Schultz]

Tim, it'll be a little later around here. The US goes on DST as of very
early Sunday morning, 9 March. What would have been 4 a.m. EST Monday will
be 5 a.m. EDT.

I think the UK makes the change three weeks later (30 March), yes?

--Dodi

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On 3/8/2014 11:39 AM, Tim Lodge wrote:
> Apologies for the delay in posting the word. It's been the first really
> fine day of the year here in the South of England, and I thought I should
> get outside and start repairing the garden after the winter ravages.
>
> The word for round 2489 is
>
> *****************
> * *
> * S E R E I N *
> * *
> *****************
>
>
> Capitalization is not significant.
>
> Please submit your fake definitions for this word, by _email_ to
> 5sfwiyj02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com, on or before the deadline, which is:
>
> 09:00 UTC on Monday 10th March
> or 4:00 AM EST
> or 1:00 PM PST
> or 20:00 in Melbourne
>
> -- Tim L
>
> -

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[Tim Lodge]

Dodi

Thanks for telling me. You're absolutely right - British Summer Time
begins on 30th March. I won't change the deadline, but North American
players can add an extra hour to it if they wish. It won't make much
difference as I imagine most of them will be in bed!

-- Tim L

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 4:57:46 PM UTC, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>
> Tim, it'll be a little later around here. The US goes on DST as of very
> early Sunday morning, 9 March. What would have been 4 a.m. EST Monday will
> be 5 a.m. EDT.
>
> I think the UK makes the change three weeks later (30 March), yes?
>
> —Dodi
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>
> On 3/8/2014 11:39 AM, Tim Lodge wrote:
> > Apologies for the delay in posting the word. It's been the first really
> > fine day of the year here in the South of England, and I thought I
> should
> > get outside and start repairing the garden after the winter ravages.
> >
> > The word for round 2489 is
> >
> > *****************
> > * *
> > * S E R E I N *
> > * *
> > *****************
> >
> >
> > Capitalization is not significant.
> >
> > Please submit your fake definitions for this word, by _email_ to
> > 5sfw... (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com <javascript:>, on or before the deadline, which
> is:
> >
> > 09:00 UTC on Monday 10th March
> > or 4:00 AM EST
> > or 1:00 PM PST
> > or 20:00 in Melbourne
> >
> > -- Tim L
> >
> > -
>
>

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[Efrem Mallach]

To really nit-pick, the U.S. goes on Daylight Saving Time (UK "summer time") in a staggered fashion, time zone by time zone. At 0900 UTC, the eastern time zone will be on DST, so it will be 5 am, but the western time zone won't be, so it will be 1 am there - a short-lived four-hour difference between the two coasts. While Californians are, by most definitions, North Americans, they don' t get the extra hour. It will be 4 am in the central zone, and the mountain time zone will be at the exact instant of moving their clocks from 2 am to 3 am.

I plan to sleep through the commotion.

Efrem
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On Mar 8, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Tim Lodge <5sfwiyj02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com> wrote:

> Dodi
>
> Thanks for telling me. You're absolutely right - British Summer Time begins on 30th March. I won't change the deadline, but North American players can add an extra hour to it if they wish. It won't make much difference as I imagine most of them will be in bed!
>
> -- Tim L
>
> On Saturday, March 8, 2014 4:57:46 PM UTC, Dodi Schultz wrote:
> Tim, it'll be a little later around here. The US goes on DST as of very
> early Sunday morning, 9 March. What would have been 4 a.m. EST Monday will
> be 5 a.m. EDT.
>
> I think the UK makes the change three weeks later (30 March), yes?
>
> --Dodi
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>
> On 3/8/2014 11:39 AM, Tim Lodge wrote:
> > Apologies for the delay in posting the word. It's been the first really
> > fine day of the year here in the South of England, and I thought I should
> > get outside and start repairing the garden after the winter ravages.
> >
> > The word for round 2489 is
> >
> > *****************
> > * *
> > * S E R E I N *
> > * *
> > *****************
> >
> >
> > Capitalization is not significant.
> >
> > Please submit your fake definitions for this word, by _email_ to
> > 5sfw... (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com, on or before the deadline, which is:
> >
> > 09:00 UTC on Monday 10th March
> > or 4:00 AM EST
> > or 1:00 PM PST
> > or 20:00 in Melbourne
> >
> > -- Tim L
> >
> > -
>
>
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[Daniel Widdis]

To further nit-pick, not all of the U.S. goes on DST. The states of
Arizona (except for the Navajo reservation) and Hawaii wisely leave
their clocks untouched. A bill is pending in the Tennessee legislature
to permanently stay on DST so tomorrow's "spring forward" may stick
permanently if the bill passes.

I'd be interested in a "permanent DST" in Las Vegas, and apparently
other states have explored the option, but it's only legally permitted
for states that span two time zones.

On 3/8/14, 1:25 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
> To really nit-pick, the U.S. goes on Daylight Saving Time (UK "summer
> time") in a staggered fashion, time zone by time zone. At 0900 UTC,
> the eastern time zone will be on DST, so it will be 5 am, but the
> western time zone won't be, so it will be 1 am there - a short-lived
> four-hour difference between the two coasts. While Californians are,
> by most definitions, North Americans, they don' t get the extra hour.
> It will be 4 am in the central zone, and the mountain time zone will
> be at the exact instant of moving their clocks from 2 am to 3 am.
>
> I plan to sleep through the commotion.
>
> Efrem
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> On Mar 8, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Tim Lodge <5sfwiyj02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com
> <http://sneakemail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Dodi
>>
>> Thanks for telling me. You're absolutely right - British Summer Time
>> begins on 30th March. I won't change the deadline, but North
>> American players can add an extra hour to it if they wish. It won't
>> make much difference as I imagine most of them will be in bed!
>>
>> -- Tim L

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[Efrem Mallach]

And the state of Indiana used to split itself vertically down the middle, with half observing DST and half not. Since 2006 they've all gone on DST, though.

Arizona is especially confusing, since one can easily drive in and out of an Indian reservation (not just Navajo; there are 22 recognized tribes in the state, and all reservations observe DST) without knowing it and find oneself an hour off. Usually not a problem, but if your car is about to run out of fuel, you stop at a gas station that you know is open until 5, and discover that it's on Indian land so it's now 5:30... While Indian reservations follow the U.S. Federal government in observing DST, other Federal lands such as the Grand Canyon National Park don't. No DST there.

Almost makes one wish for the days when each town would have its own time based on the local meridian.

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On Mar 8, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Daniel Widdis <widdis (AT) dixonary (DOT) net> wrote:

> To further nit-pick, not all of the U.S. goes on DST. The states of Arizona (except for the Navajo reservation) and Hawaii wisely leave their clocks untouched. A bill is pending in the Tennessee legislature to permanently stay on DST so tomorrow's "spring forward" may stick permanently if the bill passes.
>
> I'd be interested in a "permanent DST" in Las Vegas, and apparently other states have explored the option, but it's only legally permitted for states that span two time zones.
>
> On 3/8/14, 1:25 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
>> To really nit-pick, the U.S. goes on Daylight Saving Time (UK "summer time") in a staggered fashion, time zone by time zone. At 0900 UTC, the eastern time zone will be on DST, so it will be 5 am, but the western time zone won't be, so it will be 1 am there - a short-lived four-hour difference between the two coasts. While Californians are, by most definitions, North Americans, they don' t get the extra hour. It will be 4 am in the central zone, and the mountain time zone will be at the exact instant of moving their clocks from 2 am to 3 am.
>>
>> I plan to sleep through the commotion.
>>
>> Efrem
>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Tim Lodge <5sfwiyj02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dodi
>>>
>>> Thanks for telling me. You're absolutely right - British Summer Time begins on 30th March. I won't change the deadline, but North American players can add an extra hour to it if they wish. It won't make much difference as I imagine most of them will be in bed!
>>>
>>> -- Tim L
>
>
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[John Barrs]

serein - After all that rain it was certainly a serene day today

Johnny_nadB

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[Daniel Widdis]

There was a bill in Nevada in 2005 to exempt them from DST (similar to
Arizona). But since Nevada is in Pacific time this would have created
the odd situation for someone driving from Los Angeles to Salt Lake City
during the summer of turning their clock back an hour as they entered
Nevada, and then forward two hours as they got to Utah.

Thankfully, the measure never came to vote.

On 3/8/14, 2:30 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
> And the state of Indiana used to split itself vertically down the
> middle, with half observing DST and half not. Since 2006 they've all
> gone on DST, though.
>
> Arizona is especially confusing, since one can easily drive in and out
> of an Indian reservation (not just Navajo; there are 22 recognized
> tribes in the state, and all reservations observe DST) without knowing
> it and find oneself an hour off. Usually not a problem, but if your
> car is about to run out of fuel, you stop at a gas station that you
> know is open until 5, and discover that it's on Indian land so it's
> now 5:30... While Indian reservations follow the U.S. Federal
> government in observing DST, other Federal lands such as the Grand
> Canyon National Park don't. No DST there.
>
> Almost makes one wish for the days when each town would have its own
> time based on the local meridian.
>

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[Paul Keating]

Legislators cannot resist this topic. The UK adopted permanent Summer Time
from 1968 to 1971, at which point the experiment was deemed a failure. That
hasn't stopped further legislative initiatives, most recently in 2004, 2005
and 2010.

l think politicians are just fascinated by the prospect of being able to
pass a law telling the sun when to rise.

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[Guerri Stevens]

For those of us who are morning people and/or live far west in their
time zones, I propose Daylight "Spending" Time during part of the year
so we get sunrise earlier. But I suppose that would be confusing, giving
us two DST's.

As far as the politicians are concerned, they are fascinated by forcing
us to do anything whatsoever. Use or stop using particular light bulbs,
eat or not eat certain foods, use or stop using certain forms of energy,
and the list goes on and on. Notice that little of what they foist off
on us applies to them. I am surprised they don't exempt themselves from
time!

Guerri
On 3/9/2014 3:50 AM, Paul Keating wrote:
>
> Legislators cannot resist this topic. The UK adopted permanent Summer
> Time from 1968 to 1971, at which point the experiment was deemed a
> failure. That hasn't stopped further legislative initiatives, most
> recently in 2004, 2005 and 2010.
>
> l think politicians are just fascinated by the prospect of being able
> to pass a law telling the sun when to rise.
>
>

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