[Dixonary] OT: Thunderbird and Possible Scam

[Guerri Stevens]

A couple of messages from Dixonary players were shown by Tbird as
"possible scam". I see that from time to time, but not on messages here.
Unfortunately I didn't make a note of which messages were tagged that
way. I know one was from Johnny, but I don't know which.

Is anyone else seeing this?
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[Efrem Mallach]

Were any from me between last Wednesday and yesterday morning? I was in the UK and had problems with outgoing messages from my hotel room, including my ISPs thinking they were spam and refusing to send them, though incoming messages arrived without trouble.

If that's the case, the problem - whatever it was - is over. I'm back home now. I may travel again soon, but not to the same hotel.

Efrem

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On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) com> wrote:

> A couple of messages from Dixonary players were shown by Tbird as "possible scam". I see that from time to time, but not on messages here. Unfortunately I didn't make a note of which messages were tagged that way. I know one was from Johnny, but I don't know which.
>
> Is anyone else seeing this?
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[davidh]

A couple of messages from Dixonary players were shown by Tbird as
"possible scam". I see that from time to time, but not on messages here.
Unfortunately I didn't make a note of which messages were tagged that
way. I know one was from Johnny, but I don't know which.

Is anyone else seeing this?
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For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.I get warnings from Tbird on email from web sites I trust, fairly often. I rather doubt the reliability of Tbird spam / scam detection, or maybe Tbird needs more tuning than I'm ready to do (i.e. zero).

[Guerri Stevens]

I agree that the Tbird spam/scam is not totally reliable. The spam is, I
think, trained. I mean if you mark something several times Tbird seems
to pick up on it. Although I have yet to figure out why it doesn't move
it into the Junk folder automatically.

Scam appears to be different. There was one person with whom I
corresponded who was a Mary Kay dealer and would send out notices of
sales or new products, and Tbird unfailingly marked them as possible
scams. It would be interesting to know how Tbird decides. The messages
in question now are forwarded from the Google Dixonary group although
the sender is shown as the player's Gmail address (at least in Johnny's
case - I still can't remember what other message was marked as a
possible scam). And as far as I can tell, the messages were no different
from any other messages from their senders or from anything else from
the group. But it is Google and with them anything goes.
Guerri
On 10/7/2013 6:45 PM, davidh wrote:
> I rather doubt the reliability of Tbird spam / scam detection, or maybe
> Tbird needs more tuning than I'm ready to do (i.e. zero).
>

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[Dodi Schultz]

Guerri, my TBird (I'm using 16.0.2) invariably warns me about the daily
news bulletins I get from /Time/ magazine. I repeatedly tell it the stuff
is okay, but it persists in the warning. I don't know why, and I don't
really care. It also does so with things from a couple of nonprofits.

DS

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On 10/7/2013 7:38 PM, Guerri Stevens wrote:
> I agree that the Tbird spam/scam is not totally reliable. The spam is, I
> think, trained. I mean if you mark something several times Tbird seems to
> pick up on it. Although I have yet to figure out why it doesn't move it
> into the Junk folder automatically.
>
> Scam appears to be different. There was one person with whom I
> corresponded who was a Mary Kay dealer and would send out notices of
> sales or new products, and Tbird unfailingly marked them as possible
> scams. It would be interesting to know how Tbird decides. The messages in
> question now are forwarded from the Google Dixonary group although the
> sender is shown as the player's Gmail address (at least in Johnny's case
> - I still can't remember what other message was marked as a possible
> scam). And as far as I can tell, the messages were no different from any
> other messages from their senders or from anything else from the group.
> But it is Google and with them anything goes.
> Guerri
> On 10/7/2013 6:45 PM, davidh wrote:
>> I rather doubt the reliability of Tbird spam / scam detection, or maybe
>> Tbird needs more tuning than I'm ready to do (i.e. zero).
>>
>

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[John Barrs]

I thought I was up-to-date with TB on 17.2 but I just 'allowed' an update
and I am now on 24.0 - that is an enormous jump in release numbers
especially as there isn't anything really new in there

JohnnyB


On 8 October 2013 01:22, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

> Guerri, my TBird (I'm using 16.0.2) invariably warns me about the daily
> news bulletins I get from /Time/ magazine. I repeatedly tell it the stuff
> is okay, but it persists in the warning. I don't know why, and I don't
> really care. It also does so with things from a couple of nonprofits.
>
> DS
>
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>
>
>
> On 10/7/2013 7:38 PM, Guerri Stevens wrote:
>
>> I agree that the Tbird spam/scam is not totally reliable. The spam is, I
>> think, trained. I mean if you mark something several times Tbird seems to
>> pick up on it. Although I have yet to figure out why it doesn't move it
>> into the Junk folder automatically.
>>
>> Scam appears to be different. There was one person with whom I
>> corresponded who was a Mary Kay dealer and would send out notices of sales
>> or new products, and Tbird unfailingly marked them as possible scams. It
>> would be interesting to know how Tbird decides. The messages in question
>> now are forwarded from the Google Dixonary group although the sender is
>> shown as the player's Gmail address (at least in Johnny's case - I still
>> can't remember what other message was marked as a possible scam). And as
>> far as I can tell, the messages were no different from any other messages
>> from their senders or from anything else from the group. But it is Google
>> and with them anything goes.
>> Guerri
>> On 10/7/2013 6:45 PM, davidh wrote:
>>
>>> I rather doubt the reliability of Tbird spam / scam detection, or maybe
>>> Tbird needs more tuning than I'm ready to do (i.e. zero).
>>>
>>>
>>
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[Guerri Stevens]

Are you sure about the version, that it's 24 and not 17.24, which would
make more sense. Or maybe it was supposed to be 17.24 and they made a
mistake in setting up the number.

Guerri
On 10/8/2013 5:07 AM, John Barrs wrote:
> I thought I was up-to-date with TB on 17.2 but I just 'allowed' an
> update and I am now on 24.0 - that is an enormous jump in release
> numbers especially as there isn't anything really new in there
>
> JohnnyB
>
>
> On 8 October 2013 01:22, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net
> <mailto:DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> wrote:
>
> Guerri, my TBird (I'm using 16.0.2) invariably warns me about the
> daily news bulletins I get from /Time/ magazine. I repeatedly tell
> it the stuff is okay, but it persists in the warning. I don't know
> why, and I don't really care. It also does so with things from a
> couple of nonprofits.
>
> DS
>
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>
>
>
> On 10/7/2013 7:38 PM, Guerri Stevens wrote:
>
> I agree that the Tbird spam/scam is not totally reliable. The
> spam is, I think, trained. I mean if you mark something
> several times Tbird seems to pick up on it. Although I have
> yet to figure out why it doesn't move it into the Junk folder
> automatically.
>
> Scam appears to be different. There was one person with whom I
> corresponded who was a Mary Kay dealer and would send out
> notices of sales or new products, and Tbird unfailingly marked
> them as possible scams. It would be interesting to know how
> Tbird decides. The messages in question now are forwarded from
> the Google Dixonary group although the sender is shown as the
> player's Gmail address (at least in Johnny's case - I still
> can't remember what other message was marked as a possible
> scam). And as far as I can tell, the messages were no
> different from any other messages from their senders or from
> anything else from the group. But it is Google and with them
> anything goes.
> Guerri
> On 10/7/2013 6:45 PM, davidh wrote:
>
> I rather doubt the reliability of Tbird spam / scam
> detection, or maybe
> Tbird needs more tuning than I'm ready to do (i.e. zero).
>
>
>
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[Tim B]

,
> Are you sure about the version, that it's 24 and not 17.24, which would
> make more sense.

It's 24.0 here on Linux, too.

Best wishes,
Tim Bourne.

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[Dodi Schultz]

On 10/8/2013 5:07 AM, John Barrs wrote:
> I thought I was up-to-date with TB on 17.2 but I just 'allowed' an update
> and I am now on 24.0 - that is an enormous jump in release numbers
> especially as there isn't anything really new in there
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I had 17 for a little while but I didn't like it and went back to 16.0.2.
(The older versions are still at the Mozilla site and available for download.)

DS

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