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Dodi Schultz
September 11th, 2013, 07:42 PM
I use Firefox, and I'm quite happy with it. But I'm curious: Do you use, or
have you used, Chrome?

If so: What do/did you think of it?

If you've also used Firefox or IE: How do you think they compare with Chrome?

TIA.

—Dodi

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Dodi Schultz
September 11th, 2013, 10:27 PM
Thanks, Steve.


On 9/11/2013 10:31 PM, Steve Graham wrote:
> Chrome is my default browser. It works fine.
> I switched after Firefox had problems with some JavaScript on some web
> pages.
> IE had similar problems.
> The problems are probably fixed by now, but I'm not interested in changing
> until something breaks.
>
> Steve Graham
>
> No tree is too big for a short dog to lift his leg on
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>
> I use Firefox, and I'm quite happy with it. But I'm curious: Do you use, or
> have you used, Chrome?
>
> If so: What do/did you think of it?
>
> If you've also used Firefox or IE: How do you think they compare with
> Chrome?
>
> TIA.
>
> -Dodi
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Daniel Widdis
September 11th, 2013, 10:42 PM
I use Chrome and it is my default/primary browser.

However, there are a few websites that don't work properly in Chrome and I
use Firefox when I have to on those.

I think it's generally a coin flip between Firefox and Chrome. They both
have the power of customizing with add-ins, and are faster/better than IE.
I'm just used to Chrome so I stick with it.

On 9/11/13 5:42 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:

>
>I use Firefox, and I'm quite happy with it. But I'm curious: Do you use,
>or
>have you used, Chrome?
>
>If so: What do/did you think of it?
>
>If you've also used Firefox or IE: How do you think they compare with
>Chrome?
>
>TIA.
>
>‹Dodi
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Dodi Schultz
September 11th, 2013, 11:56 PM
Thanks, Dan.

I tried IE briefly and didn't like it, but I've never tried Chrome.

—Dodi


On 9/11/2013 11:42 PM, Daniel Widdis wrote:
> I use Chrome and it is my default/primary browser.
>
> However, there are a few websites that don't work properly in Chrome and I
> use Firefox when I have to on those.
>
> I think it's generally a coin flip between Firefox and Chrome. They both
> have the power of customizing with add-ins, and are faster/better than IE.
> I'm just used to Chrome so I stick with it.
>
> On 9/11/13 5:42 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>
>> I use Firefox, and I'm quite happy with it. But I'm curious: Do you use,
>> or
>> have you used, Chrome?
>>
>> If so: What do/did you think of it?
>>
>> If you've also used Firefox or IE: How do you think they compare with
>> Chrome?
>>
>> TIA.
>>
>> ‹Dodi
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Daniel Widdis
September 12th, 2013, 12:35 AM
If you're happy with Firefox, don't switch to Chrome.

If you're happy with Android, don't switch to the new iPhone. Of course,
I'll be getting a new one next week. :)

On 9/11/13 9:56 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:

>Thanks, Dan.
>
>I tried IE briefly and didn't like it, but I've never tried Chrome.
>
>‹Dodi


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thejazzmonger
September 12th, 2013, 08:00 AM
I used Firefox for a long time but, then, started to notice some unusually
long load times for certain pages. I had read good things about Chrome and
so I tried it. I really like it. I like the array of add-ons & extensions.
I have found it to be trouble-free and fast.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net>wrote:

>
> I use Firefox, and I'm quite happy with it. But I'm curious: Do you use,
> or have you used, Chrome?
>
> If so: What do/did you think of it?
>
> If you've also used Firefox or IE: How do you think they compare with
> Chrome?
>
> TIA.
>
> —Dodi
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Dodi Schultz
September 12th, 2013, 08:08 AM
Android? iPhone? I have this old-fashion cell phone. It, um, makes and gets
phone calls.

—Dodi



On 9/12/2013 1:35 AM, Daniel Widdis wrote:
> If you're happy with Firefox, don't switch to Chrome.
>
> If you're happy with Android, don't switch to the new iPhone. Of course,
> I'll be getting a new one next week. :)
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Dodi Schultz
September 12th, 2013, 08:10 AM
Thanks, Steve.

—Dodi


On 9/12/2013 9:00 AM, Steve Dixon wrote:
> I used Firefox for a long time but, then, started to notice some
> unusually long load times for certain pages. I had read good things about
> Chrome and so I tried it. I really like it. I like the array of add-ons &
> extensions. I have found it to be trouble-free and fast.


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EnDash@aol.com
September 12th, 2013, 08:59 AM
I use Firefox and think it's excellent. I occasionally use Chrome as an
alternate/back-up browser, and it seems to work fairly well, but I haven't
noticed it being as feature-rich as Firefox.

IE8 no longer works pon my machine, and it can't be fixed, according to the
Geek Squad. But Firefox was better anyway.

With AOL's proprietary software, you get their special version of IE. It's
fine for an interface with the things I mostly do on AOL. but AOL has
become very crash-prone -- so much so that they have a special "Whoops!" screen
they pop up when they have to reset your page due to their technical
problems.

-- Dick




In a message dated 9/11/2013 8:42:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net writes:

I use Firefox, and I'm quite happy with it. But I'm curious: Do you use,
or
have you used, Chrome?

If so: What do/did you think of it?

If you've also used Firefox or IE: How do you think they compare with
Chrome?

TIA.

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Dodi Schultz
September 12th, 2013, 09:28 AM
Thanks, Dick.

You don't use an e-mail client, then? Should you consider same, I recommend
Thunderbird, Firefox's sister software. (Although not the latest version,
17.0.8; I tried it and returned to 16.0.2.) It can be set up to handle more
than one account (i.e., pick up your mail from more than one place), and I
had it doing so for a while. Like the other Mozilla stuff, it's free.

—Dodi


On 9/12/2013 9:59 AM, Dick Weltz wrote:
> I use Firefox and think it's excellent. I occasionally use Chrome as an
> alternate/back-up browser, and it seems to work fairly well, but I
> haven't noticed it being as feature-rich as Firefox.
> IE8 no longer works pon my machine, and it can't be fixed, according to
> the Geek Squad. But Firefox was better anyway.
> With AOL's proprietary software, you get their special version of IE.
> It's fine for an interface with the things I mostly do on AOL. but AOL
> has become very crash-prone -- so much so that they have a special
> "Whoops!" screen they pop up when they have to reset your page due to
> their technical problems.
> -- Dick
>

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France International/Mike Shefler
September 12th, 2013, 09:37 AM
I used to use Chrome, but found that when a website changed, you could
not simply click refresh to get the changes, you had to go in and
physically clear all the old browsing data. I also found firefox too
slow for many websites, so I'm back to using IE, although AVG keeps
hijacking my home page (grrr).

--Mike

On 9/12/2013 9:10 AM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>
> Thanks, Steve.
>
> —Dodi
>
>
> On 9/12/2013 9:00 AM, Steve Dixon wrote:
>> I used Firefox for a long time but, then, started to notice some
>> unusually long load times for certain pages. I had read good things
>> about Chrome and so I tried it. I really like it. I like the array of
>> add-ons & extensions. I have found it to be trouble-free and fast.
>
>

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Efrem Mallach
September 12th, 2013, 09:44 AM
I use Firefox, pretty much as it comes out of the box. I switched to it a few years ago. It was faster than Safari (then), and Chrome either didn't exist or wasn't ready for prime time. Since I use a Mac, IE isn't an option.

I also have Chrome, Safari and Opera on my computer and try them once in a while. So far I haven't seen a compelling reason to change my habits.

Efrem

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On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

>
> I use Firefox, and I'm quite happy with it. But I'm curious: Do you use, or have you used, Chrome?
>
> If so: What do/did you think of it?
>
> If you've also used Firefox or IE: How do you think they compare with Chrome?
>
> TIA.
>
> —Dodi
>
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John Barrs
September 12th, 2013, 09:57 AM
IE is never a sensible option! - especially for PC's

sometimes you find a website that will not work except with IE ... so...
but I then spend 15 minutes tidying up the <c-a-k> and stuff that IE leaves
and then rebooting the machine with a 10 minute down-time to properly get
my memory back and back cleanly ... and then delete the enormous fileset
that IE created (hackers can still read the memory by intrusive radio upto
15 minutes after powerdown and if you don't allow a decent break then lots
of memory comes back 'in use' and is difficult to clean up the memory and
the machine - for instance the index.dat IE creates is still locked in use!)

would you believe it? I always complain bitterly to websites that demand IE

JohnnyB


On 12 September 2013 15:44, Efrem Mallach <emallach (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

> I use Firefox, pretty much as it comes out of the box. I switched to it a
> few years ago. It was faster than Safari (then), and Chrome either didn't
> exist or wasn't ready for prime time. Since I use a Mac, IE isn't an option.
>
> I also have Chrome, Safari and Opera on my computer and try them once in a
> while. So far I haven't seen a compelling reason to change my habits.
>
> Efrem
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
>
> >
> > I use Firefox, and I'm quite happy with it. But I'm curious: Do you use,
> or have you used, Chrome?
> >
> > If so: What do/did you think of it?
> >
> > If you've also used Firefox or IE: How do you think they compare with
> Chrome?
> >
> > TIA.
> >
> > —Dodi
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Tim B
September 12th, 2013, 10:18 AM
,
> I use Firefox, and I'm quite happy with it. But I'm curious: Do you use, or
> have you used, Chrome?
>
> If so: What do/did you think of it?

Since I don't normally use Windows, IE isn't an option. I use Firefox (23.0 according to Help|About)
all the time, though I do have Chrome installed, mainly so I could set up cloud print from my
Android tablet. I've never found any reason even to try it seriously.

Best wishes,
Tim Bourne.

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Dodi Schultz
September 12th, 2013, 11:03 AM
Wow. Interesting, Mike. Looks like you're in a minority here (but I think
that overall, in the world out there, IE still leads; haven't checked the
stats recently, though).

Thanks.

—Dodi


On 9/12/2013 10:37 AM, France International/Mike Shefler wrote:
> I used to use Chrome, but found that when a website changed, you could
> not simply click refresh to get the changes, you had to go in and
> physically clear all the old browsing data. I also found firefox too slow
> for many websites, so I'm back to using IE, although AVG keeps hijacking
> my home page (grrr).

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Dodi Schultz
September 12th, 2013, 11:08 AM
Thanks, Efrem. I used Opera for a while, an eon or two back; I think it was
in the old CompuServe days. At that point, it seemed a good alternative to
IE, which I really didn't take to. Opera was far more friendly. That was
before I found Firefox.

—Dodi


On 9/12/2013 10:44 AM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
> I use Firefox, pretty much as it comes out of the box. I switched to it a few years ago. It was faster than Safari (then), and Chrome either didn't exist or wasn't ready for prime time. Since I use a Mac, IE isn't an option.
>
> I also have Chrome, Safari and Opera on my computer and try them once in a while. So far I haven't seen a compelling reason to change my habits.


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Efrem Mallach
September 12th, 2013, 11:14 AM
Chrome is the most popular browser worldwide, with a 40+ percent market share. It passed IE in April 2012.

IE is in second place with about 25 percent. However, that's fragmented. People who use XP, which still has a large share because there are lots of business applications that won't run on anything newer, are stuck with IE 8. Those who use more recent versions (Vista, 7, 8) are moving rapidly from IE 9 to IE 10.

Firefox is in a close third with about 20 percent.

Safari has a bit under 10 percent, almost all of it on Macintosh.

Here (or perhaps attached, depending on your e-mail software) is a map of the world showing what's most popular where, as of August 2013.

More details at gs.statcounter.com.

Cheers,

Efrem



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On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

> Wow. Interesting, Mike. Looks like you're in a minority here (but I think that overall, in the world out there, IE still leads; haven't checked the stats recently, though).
>
> Thanks.
>
> —Dodi
>
>
> On 9/12/2013 10:37 AM, France International/Mike Shefler wrote:
>> I used to use Chrome, but found that when a website changed, you could not simply click refresh to get the changes, you had to go in and physically clear all the old browsing data. I also found firefox too slow for many websites, so I'm back to using IE, although AVG keeps hijacking my home page (grrr).
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Dodi Schultz
September 12th, 2013, 11:15 AM
Thanks, Tim.

On 9/12/2013 11:18 AM, Tim B wrote:
>
> Since I don't normally use Windows, IE isn't an option. I use Firefox
> (23.0 according to Help|About) all the time, though I do have Chrome
> installed, mainly so I could set up cloud print from my Android tablet.
> I've never found any reason even to try it seriously.


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Daniel Widdis
September 12th, 2013, 11:16 AM
Actually, Chrome has taken over IE as-of about a year ago. IE and Firefox
usage is declining. Everyone's switching to Chrome.

My takeaway from this is that if you're happy with your current browser,
stick with it. If you want to switch, follow the lemmings to Chrome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers if the picture
below doesn't work for you.


On 9/12/13 9:03 AM, Dodi Schultz wrote:

> Wow. Interesting, Mike. Looks like you're in a minority here (but I think
> that overall, in the world out there, IE still leads; haven't checked the
> stats recently, though).
>
> Thanks.
>
> ‹Dodi
>
>
> On 9/12/2013 10:37 AM, France International/Mike Shefler wrote:
>> I used to use Chrome, but found that when a website changed, you could
>> not simply click refresh to get the changes, you had to go in and
>> physically clear all the old browsing data. I also found firefox too slow
>> for many websites, so I'm back to using IE, although AVG keeps hijacking
>> my home page (grrr).
>


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Dodi Schultz
September 12th, 2013, 11:24 AM
Very interesting, Efrem. Thanks!

Guess this confirms the global dominance of Google.

—Dodi



On 9/12/2013 12:14 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
> Chrome is the most popular browser worldwide, with a 40+ percent market
> share. It passed IE in April 2012.
>
> IE is in second place with about 25 percent. However, that's fragmented.
> People who use XP, which still has a large share because there are lots
> of business applications that won't run on anything newer, are stuck with
> IE 8. Those who use more recent versions (Vista, 7, 8) are moving rapidly
> from IE 9 to IE 10.
>
> Firefox is in a close third with about 20 percent.
>
> Safari has a bit under 10 percent, almost all of it on Macintosh.
>
> Here (or perhaps attached, depending on your e-mail software) is a map of
> the world showing what's most popular where, as of August 2013.
>
> More details at gs.statcounter.com <http://gs.statcounter.com>.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Efrem
>
>

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John Barrs
September 12th, 2013, 11:50 AM
The point about XP is that while technically (as a result of legal rulings)
you can uninstall IE in actual fact if you do uninstall IE then XP doesn't
work properly so you have to leave it in.
The result is that I really suspect any figures about sales of IE .. it is
always included in Windows and therefore sales figures are utterly
meaningless. I do not know anyone at all who actually uses IE by preference
and I know of no businesses that use it unless they are using the Win8 and
the cloud.

JohnnyB


On 12 September 2013 17:24, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

> Very interesting, Efrem. Thanks!
>
> Guess this confirms the global dominance of Google.
>
> —Dodi
>
>
>
>
> On 9/12/2013 12:14 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
>
>> Chrome is the most popular browser worldwide, with a 40+ percent market
>> share. It passed IE in April 2012.
>>
>> IE is in second place with about 25 percent. However, that's fragmented.
>> People who use XP, which still has a large share because there are lots of
>> business applications that won't run on anything newer, are stuck with IE
>> 8. Those who use more recent versions (Vista, 7, 8) are moving rapidly from
>> IE 9 to IE 10.
>>
>> Firefox is in a close third with about 20 percent.
>>
>> Safari has a bit under 10 percent, almost all of it on Macintosh.
>>
>> Here (or perhaps attached, depending on your e-mail software) is a map of
>> the world showing what's most popular where, as of August 2013.
>>
>> More details at gs.statcounter.com <http://gs.statcounter.com>.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Efrem
>>
>>
>>
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Dodi Schultz
September 12th, 2013, 11:54 AM
Very interesting, Dan. Especially so: the various sources and how the
counting's done.

—Dodi



On 9/12/2013 12:16 PM, Dan Widdis wrote:
> Actually, Chrome has taken over IE as-of about a year ago. IE and Firefox
> usage is declining. Everyone's switching to Chrome.
>
> My takeaway from this is that if you're happy with your current browser,
> stick with it. If you want to switch, follow the lemmings to Chrome.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers if the picture
> below doesn't work for you.
>
>
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Efrem Mallach
September 12th, 2013, 11:58 AM
This doesn't reflect sales or installations of IE, but its usage as tracked by the Statcounter folks. People who have it installed, for whatever reason, but don't use it don't show up in these figures.

If you look at their data on a day-to-day basis, it shows that IE usage is higher during the week (when people have to use whatever their employer tells them to use) but dips significantly on weekends. The drop in IE8 is especially large, about 30 percent from weekdays to weekends. Chrome and Safari get a boost on weekends, when people have a choice. Firefox isn't affected much.

Efrem

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On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:50 PM, John Barrs <johnnybarrs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> The point about XP is that while technically (as a result of legal rulings) you can uninstall IE in actual fact if you do uninstall IE then XP doesn't work properly so you have to leave it in.
> The result is that I really suspect any figures about sales of IE .. it is always included in Windows and therefore sales figures are utterly meaningless. I do not know anyone at all who actually uses IE by preference and I know of no businesses that use it unless they are using the Win8 and the cloud.
>
> JohnnyB
>
>
> On 12 September 2013 17:24, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
> Very interesting, Efrem. Thanks!
>
> Guess this confirms the global dominance of Google.
>
> —Dodi
>
>
>
>
> On 9/12/2013 12:14 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
> Chrome is the most popular browser worldwide, with a 40+ percent market share. It passed IE in April 2012.
>
> IE is in second place with about 25 percent. However, that's fragmented. People who use XP, which still has a large share because there are lots of business applications that won't run on anything newer, are stuck with IE 8.. Those who use more recent versions (Vista, 7, 8) are moving rapidly from IE 9 to IE 10.
>
> Firefox is in a close third with about 20 percent.
>
> Safari has a bit under 10 percent, almost all of it on Macintosh.
>
> Here (or perhaps attached, depending on your e-mail software) is a map of the world showing what's most popular where, as of August 2013.
>
> More details at gs.statcounter.com <http://gs.statcounter.com>.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Efrem
>
>
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Dodi Schultz
September 12th, 2013, 12:18 PM
Yes! Now I remember. I think that was my very first browser.

—Dodi



On 9/12/2013 1:09 PM, Steve Graham wrote:
> Remember when Netscape was the hot thing and the IPO went gonzo?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Navigator
>
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Daniel Widdis
September 12th, 2013, 12:20 PM
Firefox is the new Netscape! (As the link you post notes.)

On 9/12/13 10:09 AM, Steve Graham wrote:

>Remember when Netscape was the hot thing and the IPO went gonzo?
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Navigator
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Tim B
September 12th, 2013, 12:26 PM
,
> Chrome is the most popular browser worldwide, with a 40+ percent market share. It passed IE in
> April 2012.

That really sounds odd. I wonder if it includes copies packaged with Android, whose browser is I
think a Chrome derivative.

Best wishes,
Tim Bourne.

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Efrem Mallach
September 12th, 2013, 12:32 PM
I don't think so. If you look at their Mobile Browser data, the Android browser has a 30+ percent market share. Chrome is listed separately and has about a 4 percent share.

(They get their raw data from the self-identification information that browsers send. It doesn't matter what a browser is based on. All that matters is how it identifies itself to the Web sites it visits.)

Efrem

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On Sep 12, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Tim B <dixonary (AT) siam (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

> ,
>> Chrome is the most popular browser worldwide, with a 40+ percent market share. It passed IE in
>> April 2012.
>
> That really sounds odd. I wonder if it includes copies packaged with Android, whose browser is I think a Chrome derivative.
>
> Best wishes,
> Tim Bourne.
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Tim B
September 12th, 2013, 01:09 PM
,
> Chrome is the most popular browser worldwide, with a 40+ percent market share. It passed IE in
> April 2012.

I really find this very hard to believe. I've just had a look at my own web site stats. They show
the top three combinations accessing it so far this month to be Windows 8 with:

IE10 - 2005
Firefox - 1236
Chrome - 1084

Maybe a lot of people have clicked on the "Install Chrome" button without realising what it meant,
but it certainly doesn't seem to show up in what I'm seeing, nor in the number of people I know of
using Chrome.

Best wishes,
Tim Bourne.

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Efrem Mallach
September 12th, 2013, 01:19 PM
Statcounter has its tracking software installed on over 3 million sites globally. Statistics for any one site are highly variable, depending on things such as the audience for that site (accountants don't use the same browsers as teenagers, visitors to apple.com show atypically high usage of Safari, etc.) and the primary geography from which that audience comes (people in Belarus and Norway use Opera more than anyone else does).

Sorry, but I really think their data is more indicative of global trends than data from any one site, whatever site it is.

Disclaimer: I have no financial or other interest in Statcounter. I don't even know anyone who works there. I have to look at Web usage statistics in my work, have checked out a lot of ways to do this, and consistently find Statcounter to have the best data and the most credible methodology.

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On Sep 12, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Tim B <dixonary (AT) siam (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

> ,
>> Chrome is the most popular browser worldwide, with a 40+ percent market share. It passed IE in
>> April 2012.
>
> I really find this very hard to believe. I've just had a look at my own web site stats. They show the top three combinations accessing it so far this month to be Windows 8 with:
>
> IE10 - 2005
> Firefox - 1236
> Chrome - 1084
>
> Maybe a lot of people have clicked on the "Install Chrome" button without realising what it meant, but it certainly doesn't seem to show up in what I'm seeing, nor in the number of people I know of using Chrome.
>
> Best wishes,
> Tim Bourne.
>
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EnDash@aol.com
September 12th, 2013, 02:08 PM
Thanks. I've never felt a need for a separate e-mail program, as I have AOL
with variety of screen names, plus my AT&T/Yahoo, which have been covering
me well enough that I never even use the Verizon, MSN, and other accounts
available to me.

I will investigate Thunderbird nevertheless. Perhaps it would be good for
setting up to monitor those peripheral accounts that I hardly ever check
into.

-- Dick



In a message dated 9/12/2013 10:28:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net writes:

You don't use an e-mail client, then? Should you consider same, I
recommend
Thunderbird, Firefox's sister software. (Although not the latest version,
17.0.8; I tried it and returned to 16.0.2.) It can be set up to handle
more
than one account (i.e., pick up your mail from more than one place), and I
had it doing so for a while. Like the other Mozilla stuff, it's free.


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Christopher Carson
September 12th, 2013, 03:09 PM
I've been reading the comments with interest. I guess I'm the other IE user with IE 10 and Windows 8. I'm using that set up on a couple of years old Dell desktop and on a new Sony that they call am Ultrabook. I have to admit, the touchscreen is pretty cool. I use Norton Internet Security and haven't really had any issues with IE on either machine.

Chris

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On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:03 PM, "Dodi Schultz" <DodiSchultz (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

> Wow. Interesting, Mike. Looks like you're in a minority here (but I think that overall, in the world out there, IE still leads; haven't checked the stats recently, though).
>
> Thanks.
>
> —Dodi
>
>
> On 9/12/2013 10:37 AM, France International/Mike Shefler wrote:
>> I used to use Chrome, but found that when a website changed, you could not simply click refresh to get the changes, you had to go in and physically clear all the old browsing data. I also found firefox too slow for many websites, so I'm back to using IE, although AVG keeps hijacking my home page (grrr).
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