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Tim Lodge
July 19th, 2013, 08:52 AM
When I tried to reply to Tim B's new word post from the Group website, I
found I didn't have the option "Reply to author". I'm sure it used to be
there when I first switched to the new Groups format. On delving a bit
deeper in Google Groups Help, I found that there was a moderator-set
permission which needed to be on to give me that option. No problem, I
thought, I'll just look up who the moderators are and send one of them an
email asking them to set the permission for me. Then I found I didn't have
access to the Members list - that also requires a specific permission to be
set.

There may be good reasons why these permissions have been turned off, but
it would be very useful to have them. Would any of the moderators care to
comment?

-- Tim L


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Jim Hart
July 19th, 2013, 09:26 AM
Same here, but I can "reply to author" to other messages including to Dan's
public reply to Tim. That suggests the permission (or lack of) applies to
Tim or his message, not to me. I regularly use that option and have never
not found it before. I'm less enquring than you - I used email instead.

Jim

On Friday, July 19, 2013 11:52:31 PM UTC+10, Tim Lodge wrote:
>
> When I tried to reply to Tim B's new word post from the Group website, I
> found I didn't have the option "Reply to author". I'm sure it used to be
> there when I first switched to the new Groups format. On delving a bit
> deeper in Google Groups Help, I found that there was a moderator-set
> permission which needed to be on to give me that option. No problem, I
> thought, I'll just look up who the moderators are and send one of them an
> email asking them to set the permission for me. Then I found I didn't have
> access to the Members list - that also requires a specific permission to be
> set.
>
> There may be good reasons why these permissions have been turned off, but
> it would be very useful to have them. Would any of the moderators care to
> comment?
>
> -- Tim L
>
>
>

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Tim Lodge
July 19th, 2013, 11:14 AM
Jim

Thanks - that's very useful. The "reply to author" permission seems to
apply to the original poster, not to the responder, as I've just been able
to "reply to author" to you. I wonder how Tim B's permission got set like
that, as it doesn't seem to be something you can set yourself.

I still can't see the Members' List.

-- Tim L

On Friday, July 19, 2013 3:26:39 PM UTC+1, Jim Hart wrote:
>
> Same here, but I can "reply to author" to other messages including to
> Dan's public reply to Tim. That suggests the permission (or lack of)
> applies to Tim or his message, not to me. I regularly use that option and
> have never not found it before. I'm less enquring than you - I used email
> instead.
>
> Jim
>
> On Friday, July 19, 2013 11:52:31 PM UTC+10, Tim Lodge wrote:
>>
>> When I tried to reply to Tim B's new word post from the Group website, I
>> found I didn't have the option "Reply to author". I'm sure it used to be
>> there when I first switched to the new Groups format. On delving a bit
>> deeper in Google Groups Help, I found that there was a moderator-set
>> permission which needed to be on to give me that option. No problem, I
>> thought, I'll just look up who the moderators are and send one of them an
>> email asking them to set the permission for me. Then I found I didn't have
>> access to the Members list - that also requires a specific permission to be
>> set.
>>
>> There may be good reasons why these permissions have been turned off, but
>> it would be very useful to have them. Would any of the moderators care to
>> comment?
>>
>> -- Tim L
>>
>>
>>

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Daniel Widdis
July 19th, 2013, 11:39 AM
Tim,

Looking at the online settings, it is configured that "User can reply
privately to the author of a topic."

Similarly, all members of the group have "User can view the forum membership
list."

Not sure why it doesn't seem to be working for you.

Dan

From: "5sfwiyj02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com" <5sfwiyj02 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com>
Reply-To: Dixonary <dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Date: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:52 AM
To: Dixonary <dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com>
Subject: [Dixonary] (OT) Group Permissions

When I tried to reply to Tim B's new word post from the Group website, I
found I didn't have the option "Reply to author". I'm sure it used to be
there when I first switched to the new Groups format. On delving a bit
deeper in Google Groups Help, I found that there was a moderator-set
permission which needed to be on to give me that option. No problem, I
thought, I'll just look up who the moderators are and send one of them an
email asking them to set the permission for me. Then I found I didn't have
access to the Members list - that also requires a specific permission to be
set.

There may be good reasons why these permissions have been turned off, but it
would be very useful to have them. Would any of the moderators care to
comment?

-- Tim L




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Tim B
July 19th, 2013, 04:15 PM
,
> I wonder how Tim B's permission got set like
> that, as it doesn't seem to be something you can set yourself.

I wonder that too. It was sent from my usual address, which I've been using for years.

Best wishes,
Tim Bourne.

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Tim Lodge
July 19th, 2013, 04:30 PM
Dan

I worked my way through the people who posted in the CONTORNIATE voting
thread, and "reply to author" was available for all of them except Tim
Bourne and Tony Abell. Weird!

I've now found the link to the Members' List - I was just looking for it in
the wrong place.

-- Tim L

On Friday, 19 July 2013 17:39:57 UTC+1, Daniel Widdis wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> Looking at the online settings, it is configured that "User can reply
> privately to the author of a topic."
>
> Similarly, all members of the group have "User can view the forum
> membership list."
>
> Not sure why it doesn't seem to be working for you.
>
> Dan
>
> From: "5sfw... (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com <javascript:>" <5sfw... (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com<javascript:>
> >
> Reply-To: Dixonary <dixo... (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com <javascript:>>
> Date: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:52 AM
> To: Dixonary <dixo... (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com <javascript:>>
> Subject: [Dixonary] (OT) Group Permissions
>
> When I tried to reply to Tim B's new word post from the Group website, I
> found I didn't have the option "Reply to author". I'm sure it used to be
> there when I first switched to the new Groups format. On delving a bit
> deeper in Google Groups Help, I found that there was a moderator-set
> permission which needed to be on to give me that option. No problem, I
> thought, I'll just look up who the moderators are and send one of them an
> email asking them to set the permission for me. Then I found I didn't have
> access to the Members list - that also requires a specific permission to be
> set.
>
> There may be good reasons why these permissions have been turned off, but
> it would be very useful to have them. Would any of the moderators care to
> comment?
>
> -- Tim L
>
>
>

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Daniel Widdis
July 20th, 2013, 04:44 PM
Tim,

I see exactly the same symptoms.

It looks like those two senders have their "Reply To" field set from their
client, so message replies are supposed to go to them. Everyone else
doesn't have it specified, so Google adds a default "reply to" for the
group.

If you just click the regular "reply" for those two senders, you'll see both
the group and their specified "reply to" email address listed with check
boxes. You can uncheck the one you don't want.

So the functionality is there, if a bit hidden! I guess Google assumes that
if the author designates replies to go to an email address, it should not
allow you to reply to the author, but instead reply only to whomever the
author designates should receive the replies. (Which may be the authorÅ*)

Dan



Tim L wrote:

I worked my way through the people who posted in the CONTORNIATE voting
thread, and "reply to author" was available for all of them except Tim
Bourne and Tony Abell. Weird!



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Tim Lodge
July 21st, 2013, 09:11 AM
Dan

Thanks for doing the detective work - it's all starting to become clearer
to me.

-- Tim L

On Saturday, 20 July 2013 22:44:01 UTC+1, Daniel Widdis wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> I see exactly the same symptoms.
>
> It looks like those two senders have their "Reply To" field set from their
> client, so message replies are supposed to go to them. Everyone else
> doesn't have it specified, so Google adds a default "reply to" for the
> group.
>
> If you just click the regular "reply" for those two senders, you'll see
> both the group and their specified "reply to" email address listed with
> check boxes. You can uncheck the one you don't want.
>
> So the functionality is there, if a bit hidden! I guess Google assumes
> that if the author designates replies to go to an email address, it should
> not allow you to reply to the author, but instead reply only to whomever
> the author designates should receive the replies. (Which may be the
> author…)
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> *Tim L wrote:*
>
> I worked my way through the people who posted in the CONTORNIATE voting
> thread, and "reply to author" was available for all of them except Tim
> Bourne and Tony Abell. Weird!
>
>

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