[Dixonary] [OT] A brief diversion for fellow word buffs

[Dodi Schultz]

I stumbled on this. You might want to have a go at it. It's quite short.

http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2012/07/etymology-quiz/

—Dodi

[Daniel Widdis]

Fun. I got 10/10, mostly guessing. :)

On 7/29/12 10:52 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:

>
>I stumbled on this. You might want to have a go at it. It's quite short.
>
>http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2012/07/etymology-quiz/
>
>‹Dodi
>

[John Barrs]

me, I'm an amateur (7/10)

JohnnyB

On 30 July 2012 06:52, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) nasw (DOT) org> wrote:

>
> I stumbled on this. You might want to have a go at it. It's quite short.
>
> http://blog.**oxforddictionaries.com/2012/**07/etymology-quiz/<http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2012/07/etymology-quiz/>
>
> —Dodi
>
>

[Toni Savage]

I only got 5 out of ten... and I took Latin!


-- Toni Savage


>________________________________
>From: Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) nasw (DOT) org>
>To: Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
>Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:52 AM
>Subject: [Dixonary] [OT] A brief diversion for fellow word buffs
>
>
>I stumbled on this. You might want to have a go at it. It's quite short.
>
>http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2012/07/etymology-quiz/
>
>—Dodi
>
>
>
>

[Dodi Schultz]

On 7/30/2012 2:45 AM, Dan Widdis wrote:
> Fun. I got 10/10, mostly guessing. :)

Beats me! 9/10 here. ALL guessing. ;-)

—Dodi

[Dave Cunningham]

7 - almost 8 on a coin toss


Dave

On Monday, July 30, 2012 1:52:30 AM UTC-4, Dodi Schultz wrote:

>
> I stumbled on this. You might want to have a go at it. It's quite short.
>
> http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2012/07/etymology-quiz/
>
> �Dodi
>
>

[Dodi Schultz]

On 7/30/2012 12:16 PM, Dave Cunningham wrote:
> 7 - almost 8 on a coin toss


I received THREE copies of that one (only TWO of your vote for
HUDIBRASTIC). All the same, all with the same time stamp.

Wonder why this is happening. It's only with your messages, no one else's.
Others (votes et al.) are all singletons.

Do others get multiple copies of Dave's messages, too?

[Efrem Mallach]

Only one of each here, Dodi.

Do you have multiple e-mail addresses set up for your Google account?

Efrem

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On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:

> On 7/30/2012 12:16 PM, Dave Cunningham wrote:
>> 7 - almost 8 on a coin toss
>
>
> I received THREE copies of that one (only TWO of your vote for HUDIBRASTIC). All the same, all with the same time stamp.
>
> Wonder why this is happening. It's only with your messages, no one else's. Others (votes et al.) are all singletons.
>
> Do others get multiple copies of Dave's messages, too?

[Dodi Schultz]

I don't have a Google account, Efrem. See the players list to see where my
mailbox is located.


On 7/30/2012 12:49 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
> Only one of each here, Dodi.
>
> Do you have multiple e-mail addresses set up for your Google account?
>
> Efrem
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>
>> On 7/30/2012 12:16 PM, Dave Cunningham wrote:
>>> 7 - almost 8 on a coin toss
>>
>> I received THREE copies of that one (only TWO of your vote for HUDIBRASTIC). All the same, all with the same time stamp.
>>
>> Wonder why this is happening. It's only with your messages, no one else's. Others (votes et al.) are all singletons.
>>
>> Do others get multiple copies of Dave's messages, too?
>

[Dodi Schultz]

Oh. I don't think of that as a "Google account". In A to your Q: No, AFAIK,
GoogleGroups has only the address at the top of this message. Actually, I
belong to two GGroups (the other one is the local block association), and
if I go there it will show that it knows me by only one address and it
knows that I belong to both groups.

DS

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On 7/30/2012 1:05 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
> Not Google mail. The account you have to have so Google Groups will know where to send you stuff. It lets you have multiple e-mail addresses.
> e
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>
>> I don't have a Google account, Efrem. See the players list to see where my mailbox is located.
>>
>>
>> On 7/30/2012 12:49 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
>>> Only one of each here, Dodi.
>>>
>>> Do you have multiple e-mail addresses set up for your Google account?
>>>
>>> Efrem

[Efrem Mallach]

Then it's not that. Can't think of anything else, except that the Internet likes you more than it likes me. :)

On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:

> Oh. I don't think of that as a "Google account". In A to your Q: No, AFAIK, GoogleGroups has only the address at the top of this message. Actually, I belong to two GGroups (the other one is the local block association), and if I go there it will show that it knows me by only one address and it knows that I belong to both groups.
>
> DS
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>
> On 7/30/2012 1:05 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
>> Not Google mail. The account you have to have so Google Groups will know where to send you stuff. It lets you have multiple e-mail addresses.
>> e
>>
>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:03 PM, Dodi Schultz wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have a Google account, Efrem. See the players list to see where my mailbox is located.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/30/2012 12:49 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
>>>> Only one of each here, Dodi.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have multiple e-mail addresses set up for your Google account?
>>>>
>>>> Efrem
>
>
>
>

[Dodi Schultz]

On 7/30/2012 1:27 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
> Then it's not that. Can't think of anything else, except that the Internet likes you more than it likes me. :)

But it's only DAVE's messages of which I get multiple copies (usually two;
occasionally, as with his message about the quiz, three). No other Dixonary
players, and no non-Dixonary players. I don't think it's got anything to do
with ME. In fact, since no other Dixonary messages come through in
multiples, and they all come via the group site, I don't think it has to do
with GGroups, either.

Doesn't ANYONE else get more than one copy of Dave's messages? If someone
does, maybe that would be a clue . . .

[—Keith Hale—]

i got 6 of ten. ]C8 (And only one copy of anything Dixonary.)

On 30 July 2012 12:38, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) nasw (DOT) org> wrote:

> On 7/30/2012 1:27 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
>
>> Then it's not that. Can't think of anything else, except that the
>> Internet likes you more than it likes me. :)
>>
>
> But it's only DAVE's messages of which I get multiple copies (usually two;
> occasionally, as with his message about the quiz, three). No other Dixonary
> players, and no non-Dixonary players. I don't think it's got anything to do
> with ME. In fact, since no other Dixonary messages come through in
> multiples, and they all come via the group site, I don't think it has to do
> with GGroups, either.
>
> Doesn't ANYONE else get more than one copy of Dave's messages? If someone
> does, maybe that would be a clue . . .
>
>

[Tim B]

,
> Doesn't ANYONE else get more than one copy of Dave's messages?

I got two, Dodi, and I can see why you got three: It's addressed to the group, with a copy to the
group and a copy to you. That looks like what I'd expect if I used Reply All to a message from you
to the group.

Best wishes,
Tim Bourne.

[Guerri Stevens]

Dodi, I saw that Dave's message had a cc to both the group and to you,
so I'd expect everyone who has the group send messages would get two,
and I'd expect you to get three.

The real question is why this is happening. I think it *is* a problem
with the group. My guess is that Dave goes directly to the group to play
the game, reading and replying there. You and I play by Email as do some
other people here. When this duplicate messages thing started happening,
it was happening to several people, but right now, seems only to be
happening to Dave. Possibly the others have figured out how to prevent
it, perhaps by checking for the cc's before actually sending their messages.

Assuming it is indeed something that Google is doing, I wonder whether
it is intentional on their part and if so what the rationale is. And
whether it's intentional or not, are there other people complaining?

Guerri

Dodi Schultz wrote:
> On 7/30/2012 12:16 PM, Dave Cunningham wrote:
>> 7 - almost 8 on a coin toss
>
>
> I received THREE copies of that one (only TWO of your vote for
> HUDIBRASTIC). All the same, all with the same time stamp.
>
> Wonder why this is happening. It's only with your messages, no one
> else's. Others (votes et al.) are all singletons.
>
> Do others get multiple copies of Dave's messages, too?

[Paul Keating]

This is a nondiagnosis, but it looks well founded and plausible to me.

>> No other Dixonary players, and no non-Dixonary players. I don't think
>> it's got anything to do with ME. In fact, since no other Dixonary
>> messages come through in multiples, and they all come via the group site,
>> I don't think it has to do with GGroups, either.

[Daniel Widdis]

Yep.

Everyone on the list probably "got" two, but many of us use software that
would have recognized the two as duplicates and eliminated one of them.
So I only see one in my inbox, although the second one likely arrived at
my gmail in box and got munched there. (It's what happens occasionally
with the "too many messages too quickly from one user posted at
tapcis.com" problem, but in this case the duplicate elimination is
desired.)

Dodi got a third because she was cc'd separately at her address.

Mystery solved.

Dan

On 7/30/12 11:16 AM, Tim B wrote:
>
>I got two, Dodi, and I can see why you got three: It's addressed to the
>group, with a copy to the
>group and a copy to you. That looks like what I'd expect if I used Reply
>All to a message from you
>to the group.

[stamps]

I sometimes (not always) get 2 copies of Dave's messages.

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---------- Original Message -----------
From: [UTF-8?]—Keith [UTF-8?]Hale— <thoughtstorms (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
To: dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com
Sent: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:55:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [Dixonary] Re: [OT] A brief diversion for fellow word buffs

> i got 6 of ten. ]C8 (And only one copy of anything Dixonary.)
>
> On 30 July 2012 12:38, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) nasw (DOT) org> wrote:
>
> > On 7/30/2012 1:27 PM, Efrem Mallach wrote:
> >
> >> Then it's not that. Can't think of anything else, except that the
> >> Internet likes you more than it likes me. :)
> >>
> >
> > But it's only DAVE's messages of which I get multiple copies (usually
two;
> > occasionally, as with his message about the quiz, three). No other
Dixonary
> > players, and no non-Dixonary players. I don't think it's got anything to
do
> > with ME. In fact, since no other Dixonary messages come through in
> > multiples, and they all come via the group site, I don't think it has to
do
> > with GGroups, either.
> >
> > Doesn't ANYONE else get more than one copy of Dave's messages? If someone
> > does, maybe that would be a clue . . .
> >
> >
------- End of Original Message -------

[Tony Abell]

On 2012-07-30 at 18:32 stamps wrote:

> I sometimes (not always) get 2 copies of Dave's messages.

Are we still on about this? From what I've seen at my end, there is a 100%
correlation between dupes happening and a header line with a CC: addressing
the group (in addition to the To: line). When a CC is present, it always also
lists Dodi as a separate recipient. Sometimes Dodi is the only CC recipient.
So she always gets the most dupes.

The only question is where the CCs are coming from. Dave doesn't know, I
guess.

[Dodi Schultz]

On 7/30/2012 2:16 PM, Tim B wrote:
>
>> Doesn't ANYONE else get more than one copy of Dave's messages?
>
> I got two, Dodi, and I can see why you got three: It's addressed to the
> group, with a copy to the group and a copy to you. That looks like what
> I'd expect if I used Reply All to a message from you to the group.

Addressed to the group with a copy to the group? Maybe it's me, but that
doesn't make sense. (And I'm not sure why anyone would use Reply All.) But
I'm interested to hear that someone else got more than one. Although you
seem to be the only one who did! Why you?

Puzzling.

I'm sending this just by hitting Reply. It appears to be addressed solely
to dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com. No copies to anyone or anything.

—Dodi

[Jim Hart]

Guerri:

> My guess is that Dave goes directly to the group to play the game,
reading and replying there.

My guess is you're right. I play that way too, and sometimes when I reply
there is a ready-made cc: to one or more addresses and sometimes there
isn't. If this happens, I try to remember to uncheck the cc but if I don't
some lucky readers get it twice. Most of them survive this experience. Why
Google does this is a mystery that should be solved soon now that the Higgs
boson people have so much spare time on their hands.

Jim

[Guerri Stevens]

I think another aspect of this may be the change to the "new" group
format/software. I have noticed that in the messages I receive that have
the extraneous cc, the To is "dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com" and the CC is
"Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com". Notice uppercase D in the CC.

Guerri

Jim Hart wrote:
> ...
>
> My guess is you're right. I play that way too, and sometimes when I
> reply there is a ready-made cc: to one or more addresses and sometimes
> there isn't. If this happens, I try to remember to uncheck the cc but if
> I don't some lucky readers get it twice. Most of them survive this
> experience. Why Google does this is a mystery that should be solved soon
> now that the Higgs boson people have so much spare time on their hands.
>
> Jim
>

[Efrem Mallach]

The conclusions I have reached so far are:

1. E-mail programs handle this differently.

2. A given e-mail program may (probably does) vary from release to release.

3. Across the board, there's no substitute for checking the address to which a message will go before pressing Send.

Efrem

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On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:01 AM, Guerri Stevens wrote:

> I think another aspect of this may be the change to the "new" group format/software. I have noticed that in the messages I receive that have the extraneous cc, the To is "dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com" and the CC is "Dixonary (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com". Notice uppercase D in the CC.
>
> Guerri
>
> Jim Hart wrote:
>> ...
>> My guess is you're right. I play that way too, and sometimes when I reply there is a ready-made cc: to one or more addresses and sometimes there isn't. If this happens, I try to remember to uncheck the cc but if I don't some lucky readers get it twice. Most of them survive this experience. Why Google does this is a mystery that should be solved soon now that the Higgs boson people have so much spare time on their hands.
>> Jim
>>