View Full Version : [Dixonary] OT: Signatures in Thunderbird
Guerri Stevens
May 27th, 2012, 03:55 PM
I have specified that Tbird should attach a signature to my messages,
and I provided a file for that. The file has just "Guerri". When I
compose a new message, Tbird inserts a line with two dashes ahead of the
text in my signature file.
But, if I reply to a message, Tbird leaves off the line with the two
dashes. Why the difference?
Maybe I should take the time to get the latest Tbird version!
--
Guerri
John Barrs
May 27th, 2012, 06:20 PM
Thing is ... compose defaults to your new address -- reply defaults to the
address to which it is replying -- so if Mistress Guerri starts a message
-- she is Mistress Guerri. .... but if you reply to a message written to
guerri tapcis then guerri tapcis is who replies...while writing the message
look at the top from: line == that will tell you who is replying ... if you
have it set up to allow multiple people to write then there will be a drop
arrow at the right-hand end allowing you to choose who is to reply -- and
as you change that the signature chnages appropriately
JohnnyB
On 27 May 2012 21:55, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) com> wrote:
> I have specified that Tbird should attach a signature to my messages, and
> I provided a file for that. The file has just "Guerri". When I compose a
> new message, Tbird inserts a line with two dashes ahead of the text in my
> signature file.
>
> But, if I reply to a message, Tbird leaves off the line with the two
> dashes. Why the difference?
>
> Maybe I should take the time to get the latest Tbird version!
>
> --
> Guerri
>
Guerri Stevens
May 28th, 2012, 06:13 AM
Well, Johnny, I am going mad and I think it's a short trip!
I see my new Email address as the From, and indeed the From line has the
drop down arrow.
When I first started to reply, the same was true, but something made me
scroll through the reply, beyond the end of the quoted material, where I
saw my signature with the line of two dashes above it! I thought I had
set up Tbird to place the signature above the quote, so I cancelled my
reply-in-progress and checked my account settings. I noticed that my
signature was to be placed *after* the quote. I don't know whether I
forgot to change that or did change it and somehow managed to change it
back or whether evil spirits have possessed my computer (I think the
latter is a distinct possibility, but that's another story).
At any rate, I changed that setting to again put the signature above the
quote. You will see it now, without a line of two dashes above it. Based
on this fairly flimsy evidence, I conclude that if you choose to put
your signature above the quote, Tbird (at least my antiquated version)
won't give you the dashes.
I like to have the quote come last, my thinking being that most people
will not care to read through whatever is quoted and will focus on what
is being said in response to it. So they will not see the signature if
it is placed at the very, very end.
Guerri
John Barrs wrote:
> Thing is ... compose defaults to your new address -- reply defaults to
> the address to which it is replying -- so if Mistress Guerri starts a
> message -- she is Mistress Guerri. .... but if you reply to a message
> written to guerri tapcis then guerri tapcis is who replies...while
> writing the message look at the top from: line == that will tell you who
> is replying ... if you have it set up to allow multiple people to write
> then there will be a drop arrow at the right-hand end allowing you to
> choose who is to reply -- and as you change that the signature chnages
> appropriately
>
> JohnnyB
>
> On 27 May 2012 21:55, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) com
> <mailto:guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) com>> wrote:
>
> I have specified that Tbird should attach a signature to my
> messages, and I provided a file for that. The file has just
> "Guerri". When I compose a new message, Tbird inserts a line with
> two dashes ahead of the text in my signature file.
>
> But, if I reply to a message, Tbird leaves off the line with the two
> dashes. Why the difference?
>
> Maybe I should take the time to get the latest Tbird version!
>
> --
> Guerri
>
>
John Barrs
May 28th, 2012, 06:30 AM
guerri
- this one was from guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) com -- first time I have seen
that email address ----
AND -- the first one in this thread now shows that address too -
IT DID NOT SHOW THAT LAST NIGHT when I replied to you, then it showed
tapcis.com which is why I replied the way I did so I think google is
playing games although how it did what I am reporting here I have no idea
BTW I use Tbird for all 17 of the email addresses I monitor except this one
which I use for the game and one other which is family only. The two
exceptions I use directly through gmail
(why 17? well, 2 or 3 of my own from different ISPs but I also administer
two websites and pick up the bad addresses, admin etc from them)
JohnnyB
On 28 May 2012 12:13, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) com> wrote:
> Well, Johnny, I am going mad and I think it's a short trip!
>
> I see my new Email address as the From, and indeed the From line has the
> drop down arrow.
>
> When I first started to reply, the same was true, but something made me
> scroll through the reply, beyond the end of the quoted material, where I
> saw my signature with the line of two dashes above it! I thought I had set
> up Tbird to place the signature above the quote, so I cancelled my
> reply-in-progress and checked my account settings. I noticed that my
> signature was to be placed *after* the quote. I don't know whether I forgot
> to change that or did change it and somehow managed to change it back or
> whether evil spirits have possessed my computer (I think the latter is a
> distinct possibility, but that's another story).
>
> At any rate, I changed that setting to again put the signature above the
> quote. You will see it now, without a line of two dashes above it. Based on
> this fairly flimsy evidence, I conclude that if you choose to put your
> signature above the quote, Tbird (at least my antiquated version) won't
> give you the dashes.
>
> I like to have the quote come last, my thinking being that most people
> will not care to read through whatever is quoted and will focus on what is
> being said in response to it. So they will not see the signature if it is
> placed at the very, very end.
>
>
> Guerri
>
> John Barrs wrote:
>
>> Thing is ... compose defaults to your new address -- reply defaults to
>> the address to which it is replying -- so if Mistress Guerri starts a
>> message -- she is Mistress Guerri. .... but if you reply to a message
>> written to guerri tapcis then guerri tapcis is who replies...while writing
>> the message look at the top from: line == that will tell you who is
>> replying ... if you have it set up to allow multiple people to write then
>> there will be a drop arrow at the right-hand end allowing you to choose who
>> is to reply -- and as you change that the signature chnages appropriately
>>
>> JohnnyB
>>
>> On 27 May 2012 21:55, Guerri Stevens <guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) com <mailto:
>> guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) **com <guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) com>>> wrote:
>>
>> I have specified that Tbird should attach a signature to my
>> messages, and I provided a file for that. The file has just
>> "Guerri". When I compose a new message, Tbird inserts a line with
>> two dashes ahead of the text in my signature file.
>>
>> But, if I reply to a message, Tbird leaves off the line with the two
>> dashes. Why the difference?
>>
>> Maybe I should take the time to get the latest Tbird version!
>>
>> -- Guerri
>>
>>
>>
Dodi Schultz
May 28th, 2012, 07:40 AM
On 5/28/2012 7:13 AM, Guerri Stevens wrote:
> I like to have the quote come last, my thinking being that most people
> will not care to read through whatever is quoted and will focus on what
> is being said in response to it.
That has always seemed backwards to me. Seems to me it makes sense for a
reply to FOLLOW whatever it is you're replying to. As THIS does. There's no
need to retain the entire previous message; you can just single out what
you want to reply to, and delete the rest. AS I JUST DID.
Some people seem to think that you can't delete a quote in a reply and send
things with dozens of past messages trailing behind them.
P.S.: A general comment: I've learned that sometimes, when you make
changes, they don't take effect until you reboot. I don't know what governs
that or why sometimes and not other times.
thejazzmonger
May 28th, 2012, 07:51 AM
If I let previous messages survive in a Reply, I let them follow my reply.
I assume that many people following a long thread are going to remember
what has been going on and I don't want to make them scroll through all the
history to get to my meager addition. For those that want to look back for
context, the history is there.
sd
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Dodi Schultz <DodiSchultz (AT) nasw (DOT) org> wrote:
> On 5/28/2012 7:13 AM, Guerri Stevens wrote:
>
> I like to have the quote come last, my thinking being that most people
>> will not care to read through whatever is quoted and will focus on what is
>> being said in response to it.
>>
>
> That has always seemed backwards to me. Seems to me it makes sense for a
> reply to FOLLOW whatever it is you're replying to. As THIS does. There's no
> need to retain the entire previous message; you can just single out what
> you want to reply to, and delete the rest. AS I JUST DID.
>
> Some people seem to think that you can't delete a quote in a reply and
> send things with dozens of past messages trailing behind them.
>
> P.S.: A general comment: I've learned that sometimes, when you make
> changes, they don't take effect until you reboot. I don't know what governs
> that or why sometimes and not other times.
>
>
>
--
steve "thejazzmonger" dixon
--Let me apologize to everyone for any difficulty you may have reading this
email. The "P" key on my laptop has become mostly non-functional. I try to
look for missing P's when I think about it, but sometimes miss them. Sorry
for any inconvenience or _uzzlement.--
Guerri Stevens
May 28th, 2012, 01:41 PM
All I can say is that I just looked again at my message starting the
thread, and it has guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) com as the From. It is always
possible that you too are going mad or evil spirits are moving into your
computer or both. <g>
As for Google, they are happy to fiddle around with things without
telling anyone. I still don't understand why "sign out" in actual words
cannot be at the top of the Gmail screens, but perhaps this would
violate some look and feel issue of theirs. I mention it because it was
changed without warning.
Guerri
John Barrs wrote:
> guerri
>
> - this one was from guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) com
> <mailto:guerri (AT) guerristevens (DOT) com> -- first time I have seen that email
> address ----
>
> AND -- the first one in this thread now shows that address too -
>
> IT DID NOT SHOW THAT LAST NIGHT when I replied to you, then it showed
> tapcis.com <http://tapcis.com> which is why I replied the way I did so I
> think google is playing games although how it did what I am reporting
> here I have no idea
> ....
Guerri Stevens
May 28th, 2012, 01:47 PM
I have never had any problem deleting part of a quoted message. If I do,
sometimes I put "..." there to indicate that I deleted something. Like
you, I don't see the point of having multiple messages trail along.
As far as the rebooting: usually when things aren't going to change
until you reboot, you get either an automatic reboot, which would seem
unreasonable for an options change, or a warning that changes won't
happen until you do reboot. In this particular instance, no reboot was
needed, the change in preference for the signature location took effect
immediately.
Guerri
Dodi Schultz wrote:
> On 5/28/2012 7:13 AM, Guerri Stevens wrote:
>
>> I like to have the quote come last, my thinking being that most people
>> will not care to read through whatever is quoted and will focus on
>> what is being said in response to it.
>
> That has always seemed backwards to me. Seems to me it makes sense for a
> reply to FOLLOW whatever it is you're replying to. As THIS does. There's
> no need to retain the entire previous message; you can just single out
> what you want to reply to, and delete the rest. AS I JUST DID.
>
> Some people seem to think that you can't delete a quote in a reply and
> send things with dozens of past messages trailing behind them.
>
> P.S.: A general comment: I've learned that sometimes, when you make
> changes, they don't take effect until you reboot. I don't know what
> governs that or why sometimes and not other times.
>
>
>
>
>
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